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Post by essexstokey on May 12, 2021 21:33:38 GMT
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. Martin Niemöller Consider your silence on anti semitism in the labour party takes some brass neck to post that youth. I was never silent on it I posted about it I condemned all racist of any kind Oh and where's this report and investigation into Islamophobia in the Tory party that was promised Where as labour learn from their mistakes and take action the Tories promote their racist to the top job and brush it under the carpet The point I was making was if you don't care and don't speak out then who is there when you need that help
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Post by followyoudown on May 12, 2021 21:40:18 GMT
Consider your silence on anti semitism in the labour party takes some brass neck to post that youth. I was never silent on it I posted about it I condemned all racist of any kind Oh and where's this report and investigation into Islamophobia in the Tory party that was promised Where as labour learn from their mistakes and take action the Tories promote their racist to the top job and brush it under the carpet The point I was making was if you don't care and don't speak out then who is there when you need that help Really could have sworn you said you voted for corbyn, you know the guy who called hamas the people firing 1000s of rockets into israel his friends.
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Post by essexstokey on May 12, 2021 21:41:22 GMT
Oh and I've been talking to a councillor down here who is left wing supporter of Ken and Jeremy oh and yes she's Jewish she says you can be critical of Israel this does not make you antisemitic
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Post by essexstokey on May 12, 2021 21:45:16 GMT
I was never silent on it I posted about it I condemned all racist of any kind Oh and where's this report and investigation into Islamophobia in the Tory party that was promised Where as labour learn from their mistakes and take action the Tories promote their racist to the top job and brush it under the carpet The point I was making was if you don't care and don't speak out then who is there when you need that help Really could have sworn you said you voted for corbyn, you know the guy who called hamas the people firing 1000s of rockets into israel his friends. Did you actually see the news and what started it all off be careful of making assumptions before you know all the facts including numbers of missiles used by each side deaths from each side and damage
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Post by followyoudown on May 12, 2021 21:50:45 GMT
Oh and I've been talking to a councillor down here who is left wing supporter of Ken and Jeremy oh and yes she's Jewish she says you can be critical of Israel this does not make you antisemitic Thats very interesting but can you can actually point out where they were called antisemitic for criticising israel cos I only remember it being for liking racist murals, laying wreaths for racist murderers and of course calling hamas (whose stated aim is to wipe israel off the face of the earth) and hezbollah his friends.
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Post by chad on May 12, 2021 21:50:56 GMT
Seriously, hardly anyone cares, Huddy. He does He’s obsessed The more this bullshit appears on Twitter the more popular Boris gets Meanwhile the Labour Party are pining for a Corbyn mark 2 😂
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Post by followyoudown on May 12, 2021 21:57:29 GMT
Really could have sworn you said you voted for corbyn, you know the guy who called hamas the people firing 1000s of rockets into israel his friends. Did you actually see the news and what started it all off be careful of making assumptions before you know all the facts including numbers of missiles used by each side deaths from each side and damage Wow in two posts you have gone from saying you criticised anti semitism to this shit, you are trying to justify a terrorist group firing thousands of rockets at innocent civilans and deliberately targetting mixed arab / jewish towns as well as all their own people they kill by their own incompetence.
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Post by essexstokey on May 12, 2021 23:50:46 GMT
Did you actually see the news and what started it all off be careful of making assumptions before you know all the facts including numbers of missiles used by each side deaths from each side and damage Wow in two posts you have gone from saying you criticised anti semitism to this shit, you are trying to justify a terrorist group firing thousands of rockets at innocent civilans and deliberately targetting mixed arab / jewish towns as well as all their own people they kill by their own incompetence. Open your eyes to what is going on not to what you think is going on
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Post by partickpotter on May 13, 2021 2:01:29 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56819137This has to be the end of Johnson. Personally texting businessmen and telling them he will fix the tax rules in their favour. Appalling cronyism. Much worse than Cameron. Come on Oggy this wasn't a tax concession for everyday items to be manufactured in UK this was a national lifesaving emergency to procure 1000s of ventilators to help those really struggling to live and in a market where millions were needed globally .......so who cares how they were procured in this instance apart from those who think it’s wrong to put 1000s of peoples lives above what they perceive as some kind of tax mates rates. Sir James Dyson lashes out at 'shameful' BBC after broadcaster issues apology
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2021 7:17:42 GMT
Wow in two posts you have gone from saying you criticised anti semitism to this shit, you are trying to justify a terrorist group firing thousands of rockets at innocent civilans and deliberately targetting mixed arab / jewish towns as well as all their own people they kill by their own incompetence. Open your eyes to what is going on not to what you think is going on I know what is going hamas a terrorist organisation is firing rockets to deliberately try and kill innocent civilians whatever you think of the plight of the palestinian people there is no justification for that, the fact you are trying to justify it is shameful.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 13, 2021 7:30:31 GMT
Seriously, hardly anyone cares, Huddy. He does He’s obsessed The more this bullshit appears on Twitter the more popular Boris gets Meanwhile the Labour Party are pining for a Corbyn mark 2 😂 I don't think it's bullshit, but nobody seems to care anyway, and you're right about it making Bluffer ever more popular. It was the same with Trump in the States. Strange times.
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Post by Dave the Rave on May 13, 2021 7:44:32 GMT
He does He’s obsessed The more this bullshit appears on Twitter the more popular Boris gets Meanwhile the Labour Party are pining for a Corbyn mark 2 😂 I don't think it's bullshit, but nobody seems to care anyway, and you're right about it making Bluffer ever more popular. It was the same with Trump in the States. Strange times. Corruption really winds up the woke lefties, that's why. I think people genuinely believe that BJ isn't part of the establishment - that he's a working class lad who's gone in there to shake things up. The fact he's openly trampling on parts of our democracy as people just stand by is genuinely frightening. There's no actual proper responses on this thread to curbs on protest, curbs on courts or moves to enable voter suppression. Democracy being attacked = Good because it upsets the 'libs'.
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Post by partickpotter on May 13, 2021 8:17:07 GMT
I don't think it's bullshit, but nobody seems to care anyway, and you're right about it making Bluffer ever more popular. It was the same with Trump in the States. Strange times. Corruption really winds up the woke lefties, that's why. I think people genuinely believe that BJ isn't part of the establishment - that he's a working class lad who's gone in there to shake things up. The fact he's openly trampling on parts of our democracy as people just stand by is genuinely frightening. There's no actual proper responses on this thread to curbs on protest, curbs on courts or moves to enable voter suppression. Democracy being attacked = Good because it upsets the 'libs'. Interestingly, it’s the right wing of the Tory party challenging the continued controls and restrictions. But maybe not too surprising, the right wing of the Tory party is generally about less Government involvement in people’s lives which is most often seen in the desire to cut taxes and reduce public spending but also extends to allowing people to live without Government telling them what to do.
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Post by essexstokey on May 13, 2021 8:20:18 GMT
Open your eyes to what is going on not to what you think is going on I know what is going hamas a terrorist organisation is firing rockets to deliberately try and kill innocent civilians whatever you think of the plight of the palestinian people there is no justification for that, the fact you are trying to justify it is shameful. Again you need to look at what both sides are doing not just one all violence is unacceptable and you should not have blinkers on Israel are doing exactly the same if you watched BBC breakfast and Jeremy bowing this morning you would realise it's not all one sided
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 13, 2021 8:33:53 GMT
I don't think it's bullshit, but nobody seems to care anyway, and you're right about it making Bluffer ever more popular. It was the same with Trump in the States. Strange times. Corruption really winds up the woke lefties, that's why. I think people genuinely believe that BJ isn't part of the establishment - that he's a working class lad who's gone in there to shake things up. The fact he's openly trampling on parts of our democracy as people just stand by is genuinely frightening. There's no actual proper responses on this thread to curbs on protest, curbs on courts or moves to enable voter suppression. Democracy being attacked = Good because it upsets the 'libs'. Add in basic tribalism (my guy won, so that's good, full stop) and our rigid class society where we, the ordinary people, shouldn't look too closely at what our betters get up to because they know what's best for us, and you get to where we are. I think future historians might look back on the period 2015 to say 2030 (assuming we have another decade of Conservative government, which is highly likely) as a time when populist rhetoric won the day in a number of countries like it did in the 1930s. It's strange how history repeats itself whenever economic crises affect our capitalist system. There always has to be someone else to blame during those periods, whether that's immigrants, ethnic minorities, a liberal elite, the EU, the culture war etc, there's always some diversionary tactic, which a lot of people gleefully sign up to. Provided they're not 'part of the problem' it's fill your boots time. Hopefully this time the outcome won't be anywhere near as catastrophic, but it rarely ends well for ordinary people, not that that is the point of using populism as a means of obtaining and staying in power, of course.
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2021 9:31:27 GMT
I know what is going hamas a terrorist organisation is firing rockets to deliberately try and kill innocent civilians whatever you think of the plight of the palestinian people there is no justification for that, the fact you are trying to justify it is shameful. Again you need to look at what both sides are doing not just one all violence is unacceptable and you should not have blinkers on Israel are doing exactly the same if you watched BBC breakfast and Jeremy bowing this morning you would realise it's not all one sided No I don't Hamas is a terrorist organisation whose stated aim is to wipe the israeli state and people off the face of the earth, they aim to deliberately kill civilians, Israel was not firing rockets before it was attacked and attacks hamas targets only after warning civilians to leave before they attack.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2021 10:14:59 GMT
Seriously, hardly anyone cares, Huddy. A dreary predictable post by a twitter bore regurgitated by a dreary predictable oatcake bore. It's not really worthy of discussion is it? Every post he makes is a regurgitation of a no mark on twitter. It's boring, predictable and completely uninspiring. To give you your dues, you talk shit constantly but at least it's your own shit. Usually links to reports, ya daft flagshagger.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2021 10:18:43 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2021 10:35:03 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2021 10:41:49 GMT
It never stops.
Good Law Project has uncovered remarkable evidence that a Tory Minister brought a former Chair of the Tory Party, a man who now runs a lobbying firm, into the heart of Government to work on the massive multi-billion PPE procurement process. Having got his feet under the table that former Chair lobbied to win PPE contracts for at least one, and possibly a number, of clients of his lobbying firm.
The Tory Minister is Lord Bethell. The former Tory Party Chair is Lord Feldman - once described as David Cameron’s oldest and best friend - and he worked for Bethell from 23 March to 15 May 2020. And his huge lobbying firm is Tulchan, whose client list includes Bunzl Healthcare.
Bunzl was given a £22.6m PPE contract by the Department for Health without any competition in April 2020, smack bang in the middle of the period Feldman was working with Bethell. And we have also learned, from Government’s own documents, that:
Feldman was involved in the award of this contract. Bunzl had been removed from the Department for Health’s ‘approved suppliers list’ - and Feldman got them back on. An email from Feldman to Bunzl on 22 March 2020 states that he was acting as “an unpaid advisor to Matthew Hancock at the department of health...but that there have been some historic issues which mean that you have been removed from the approved suppliers list. I would like to remedy that as soon as possible”. On the same day, he emailed Bunzl, copying in Andrew Wood whom he describes as “the person leading the accelerated procurement process in Cabinet Office” and said “I have spoken to him [Andy Wood] about Bunzl and the opportunity for you to supply the UK Government with equipment. He will be in touch”. And then, several days later, when Bunzl thought the deal was not progressing quickly enough, it asked Feldman to intervene - which he did. On 25 March Feldman wrote directly to the line manager of the official dealing with Bunzl, encouraging him to expedite the contract award process: “We need to move quickly”. We fear these revelations just scratch the surface. We have seen Lord Feldman’s ‘Declarations of interest form’ and it contains a list of his other conflicts of interest. But Government has concealed these other names:
“some of our clients [Tulchan Communication LLP], as well as many other companies are offering assistance to the government during the covid-19 crisis. This includes [REDACTED], Bunzl, [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED]”.
Despite requests from our lawyers Government is refusing to confirm which other companies linked to Cameron’s oldest friend and his lobbying firm Tulchan Communications were introduced to Government and/or won public contracts.
We have now launched formal Judicial Review proceedings. If you would like to help us challenge this extraordinary abuse of power - you can do so here.
We are publishing the Judicial Review Bundle we’ve submitted to the Court. Our amended Statement of Facts and Grounds and my Witness Statement are well worth a read.
Thank you,
Jo Maugham QC Director of Good Law Project
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 13, 2021 10:43:35 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on May 13, 2021 11:10:17 GMT
Again you need to look at what both sides are doing not just one all violence is unacceptable and you should not have blinkers on Israel are doing exactly the same if you watched BBC breakfast and Jeremy bowing this morning you would realise it's not all one sided No I don't Hamas is a terrorist organisation whose stated aim is to wipe the israeli state and people off the face of the earth, they aim to deliberately kill civilians, Israel was not firing rockets before it was attacked and attacks hamas targets only after warning civilians to leave before they attack. Think you need to get up to date with what Israel have been saying and also how this started Israeli police and the reaction of Israeli people to the setting fire of a mosc also the gangs of Israeli youths roaming the streets beating up anyone who dosent have an Israeli accent This is why I said I condemned all violence its never as black and white as your trying to make out
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2021 18:29:03 GMT
No I don't Hamas is a terrorist organisation whose stated aim is to wipe the israeli state and people off the face of the earth, they aim to deliberately kill civilians, Israel was not firing rockets before it was attacked and attacks hamas targets only after warning civilians to leave before they attack. Think you need to get up to date with what Israel have been saying and also how this started Israeli police and the reaction of Israeli people to the setting fire of a mosc also the gangs of Israeli youths roaming the streets beating up anyone who dosent have an Israeli accent This is why I said I condemned all violence its never as black and white as your trying to make out You really think this started over the mosque which was been used to store weapons in regardless of that you actually seem to be saying because one group of israeli police / people did something bad its ok to attack a completely different group, its like someone saying well isis killed these people so I will attack some other random group of innocent muslims, pretty sure you would know what to call that.....
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on May 13, 2021 19:14:55 GMT
No I don't Hamas is a terrorist organisation whose stated aim is to wipe the israeli state and people off the face of the earth, they aim to deliberately kill civilians, Israel was not firing rockets before it was attacked and attacks hamas targets only after warning civilians to leave before they attack. Think you need to get up to date with what Israel have been saying and also how this started Israeli police and the reaction of Israeli people to the setting fire of a mosc also the gangs of Israeli youths roaming the streets beating up anyone who dosent have an Israeli accent This is why I said I condemned all violence its never as black and white as your trying to make out They set fire to a Mosc? The christian followers of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church must be furious, I genuinely didn't know there was a branch in Palestine.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 13, 2021 19:18:23 GMT
It never stops. Good Law Project has uncovered remarkable evidence that a Tory Minister brought a former Chair of the Tory Party, a man who now runs a lobbying firm, into the heart of Government to work on the massive multi-billion PPE procurement process. Having got his feet under the table that former Chair lobbied to win PPE contracts for at least one, and possibly a number, of clients of his lobbying firm. The Tory Minister is Lord Bethell. The former Tory Party Chair is Lord Feldman - once described as David Cameron’s oldest and best friend - and he worked for Bethell from 23 March to 15 May 2020. And his huge lobbying firm is Tulchan, whose client list includes Bunzl Healthcare. Bunzl was given a £22.6m PPE contract by the Department for Health without any competition in April 2020, smack bang in the middle of the period Feldman was working with Bethell. And we have also learned, from Government’s own documents, that: Feldman was involved in the award of this contract. Bunzl had been removed from the Department for Health’s ‘approved suppliers list’ - and Feldman got them back on. An email from Feldman to Bunzl on 22 March 2020 states that he was acting as “an unpaid advisor to Matthew Hancock at the department of health...but that there have been some historic issues which mean that you have been removed from the approved suppliers list. I would like to remedy that as soon as possible”. On the same day, he emailed Bunzl, copying in Andrew Wood whom he describes as “the person leading the accelerated procurement process in Cabinet Office” and said “I have spoken to him [Andy Wood] about Bunzl and the opportunity for you to supply the UK Government with equipment. He will be in touch”. And then, several days later, when Bunzl thought the deal was not progressing quickly enough, it asked Feldman to intervene - which he did. On 25 March Feldman wrote directly to the line manager of the official dealing with Bunzl, encouraging him to expedite the contract award process: “We need to move quickly”. We fear these revelations just scratch the surface. We have seen Lord Feldman’s ‘Declarations of interest form’ and it contains a list of his other conflicts of interest. But Government has concealed these other names: “some of our clients [Tulchan Communication LLP], as well as many other companies are offering assistance to the government during the covid-19 crisis. This includes [REDACTED], Bunzl, [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED]”. Despite requests from our lawyers Government is refusing to confirm which other companies linked to Cameron’s oldest friend and his lobbying firm Tulchan Communications were introduced to Government and/or won public contracts. We have now launched formal Judicial Review proceedings. If you would like to help us challenge this extraordinary abuse of power - you can do so here. We are publishing the Judicial Review Bundle we’ve submitted to the Court. Our amended Statement of Facts and Grounds and my Witness Statement are well worth a read. Thank you, Jo Maugham QC Director of Good Law Project Drivel
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Post by followyoudown on May 13, 2021 21:13:23 GMT
Nice lot Labour
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 13, 2021 22:32:13 GMT
Leadership. Leadership in action; when it is called out it's amazing how quickly someone's bollocks shrink.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 13, 2021 22:47:29 GMT
Leadership. Leadership in action; when it is called out it's amazing how quickly someone's bollocks shrink. 🤣🤣 Labour is so fucked right now.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 13, 2021 23:29:42 GMT
Leadership. Leadership in action; when it is called out it's amazing how quickly someone's bollocks shrink. 🤣🤣 Labour is so fucked right now. They may be fucked, but it still doesn't deflect that there is leadership being shown, and above you can see cause and effect. Compared to the 'totalis silentio' of the Home Office after today's debacle, it may be a miserably failing party but it is doing somethings right.
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Post by Dave the Rave on May 14, 2021 9:01:37 GMT
🤣🤣 Labour is so fucked right now. They may be fucked, but it still doesn't deflect that there is leadership being shown, and above you can see cause and effect. Compared to the 'totalis silentio' of the Home Office after today's debacle, it may be a miserably failing party but it is doing somethings right. It's just so woke to value honesty and integrity. You libs just don't get it.
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