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Post by foster on May 3, 2023 22:47:41 GMT
They should do a christmas special "smoking doobs with Big Nige".. where he reflects on what a pathetic chode he's been during the year. Name me one other politician who’s had more of an influence over the nation in the last decade. Just one will do Boris Johnson, without a doubt. And both are a toxic, negative influence on everything.
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Post by foster on May 3, 2023 22:54:16 GMT
Name me one other politician who’s had more of an influence over the nation in the last decade. Just one will do For a Politician who has failed seven times to be Elected as an MP he certainly seems to have exerted more influence than would seem normal, that is indisputable Whether you think that influence is positive or negative depends very much on your point of view. Other than Brexit I don't honestly know what he stands for. Was Brexit positive? Honestly the only other Political position I personally have seen him take was in praise of the Truss/Kwarteng Budget and there is no doubt that was a disaster. What other Political Policies do you think Farage has influenced in the last decade? This whole 'influence' thing is a myth. He's a nobody.
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Post by andystokey on May 4, 2023 6:20:48 GMT
As usual, no answer to a very simple question. I’m not endorsing his policies, I’m asking who has had more effect as a politician on this country in the last decade. Vladimir Putin
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Post by wannabee on May 4, 2023 8:45:28 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 4, 2023 8:56:44 GMT
For a Politician who has failed seven times to be Elected as an MP he certainly seems to have exerted more influence than would seem normal, that is indisputable Whether you think that influence is positive or negative depends very much on your point of view. Other than Brexit I don't honestly know what he stands for. Was Brexit positive? Honestly the only other Political position I personally have seen him take was in praise of the Truss/Kwarteng Budget and there is no doubt that was a disaster. What other Political Policies do you think Farage has influenced in the last decade? This whole 'influence' thing is a myth. He's a nobody. He did show how a single issue party can influence the political landscape though, I think he's an absolute bellend but there's no denying that. There's no reason why those advocating PR for example couldn't do something similar, if the will of the people was there a "PR Party" could take massive chunks of votes way from the two main parties and influence them to advocate real change in our system. But to reiterate, he's an utter prick.
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Post by str8outtahampton on May 4, 2023 9:29:22 GMT
Did you forget to put a winky face? Or are you confirming that you're a fan of vile Nige? It’s common knowledge I’m a fan of Farage you berk. Who has affected more in the last 10 years than Nige? It's impossible to measure, although there is no question that Farage has had a very significant impact. Personally I would say the individual who has had the greatest impact is Cameron, who was responsible for the Brexit referendum - as a concession to the hard right euro-sceptic minority of his party. And then presided over a pitiful campaign. You could argue that without Cameron's ludicrous gamble - no Brexit, no Johnson (and the erosion of political decency and the democratic process), and no Truss (and the mini-budget debacle). Of course, I accept that I am a leftie, Champagne-necking, virtue-signalling, hairshirt-wearing, wokie snowflake.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 4, 2023 16:54:42 GMT
Another hour then it’s time to pour yourself a beer, sit back and watch the great man at work. Can’t wait😀
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Post by str8outtahampton on May 4, 2023 17:09:05 GMT
Another hour then it’s time to pour yourself a beer, sit back and watch the great man at work. Can’t wait😀 Me neither. Plumping up the cushions already. I absolutely love it when Jermaine Jenas is on the (frankly) magnificent One Show.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 4, 2023 17:16:33 GMT
It’s common knowledge I’m a fan of Farage you berk. Who has affected more in the last 10 years than Nige? It's impossible to measure, although there is no question that Farage has had a very significant impact. Personally I would say the individual who has had the greatest impact is Cameron, who was responsible for the Brexit referendum - as a concession to the hard right euro-sceptic minority of his party. And then presided over a pitiful campaign. You could argue that without Cameron's ludicrous gamble - no Brexit, no Johnson (and the erosion of political decency and the democratic process), and no Truss (and the mini-budget debacle). Of course, I accept that I am a leftie, Champagne-necking, virtue-signalling, hairshirt-wearing, wokie snowflake. And the reason Cameron provided the referendum was largely down to Farage and the impact of the popularity of UKIP on the Conservative Party. You have to remember that, at the time, the Tories had already had two sitting MPs defect to UKIP with rumours of dozens more prepared to go. And all this on the back of UKIP winning the European elections. The Tories were shitting it. The whole point of the referendum, as I've said many times, was very little to do with what was good or bad for the UK re Europe: controlling immigration , sovereignty, £350m and all the rest of the shite it was packaged up and sold as. It was very much to do with trying to head off those defections to UKIP, stopping the fracturing of the Conservative Party and dealing with the festering sore that has been Europe in the Tory Party for several decades. And, by and large, it has been a successful outcome for the Conservative Party. Completely the opposite for the UK, obviously, but that is of secondary importance when the continuation of the ability to wield power is all that really matters. The whole idea of the Party splitting apart has been put to bed. I think it's undeniable that Farage is primarily responsible for all that and what has followed on afterwards. History will inevitably judge Brexit as a monumental mistake for the UK with a number of contributory factors not the smallest of which is Farage. He got what he wanted and, as always, the wealthiest made more money out of it and the less well off get to pick up the pieces of the ongoing mess that is being made of the country. Farage has undoubtedly had a massive impact on this country over the last 10-15 years or so. Unfortunately for his legacy it won't be seen as a positive impact (apart from for the Conservative Party, who owe him a huge debt of thanks).
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 4, 2023 17:22:25 GMT
It's impossible to measure, although there is no question that Farage has had a very significant impact. Personally I would say the individual who has had the greatest impact is Cameron, who was responsible for the Brexit referendum - as a concession to the hard right euro-sceptic minority of his party. And then presided over a pitiful campaign. You could argue that without Cameron's ludicrous gamble - no Brexit, no Johnson (and the erosion of political decency and the democratic process), and no Truss (and the mini-budget debacle). Of course, I accept that I am a leftie, Champagne-necking, virtue-signalling, hairshirt-wearing, wokie snowflake. And the reason Cameron provided the referendum was largely down to Farage and the impact of the popularity of UKIP on the Conservative Party. You have to remember that, at the time, the Tories had already had two sitting MPs defect to UKIP with rumours of dozens more prepared to go. And all this on the back of UKIP winning the European elections. The Tories were shitting it. The whole point of the referendum, as I've said many times, was very little to do with what was good or bad for the UK re Europe: controlling immigration , sovereignty, £350m and all the rest of the shite it was packaged up and sold as. It was very much to do with trying to head off those defections to UKIP, stopping the fracturing of the Conservative Party and dealing with the festering sore that has been Europe in the Tory Party for several decades. And, by and large, it has been a successful outcome for the Conservative Party. Completely the opposite for the UK, obviously, but that is of secondary importance when the continuation of the ability to wield power is all that really matters. The whole idea of the Party splitting apart has been put to bed. I think it's undeniable that Farage is primarily responsible for all that and what has followed on afterwards. History will inevitably judge Brexit as a monumental mistake for the UK with a number of contributory factors not the smallest of which is Farage. He got what he wanted and, as always, the wealthiest made more money out of it and the less well off get to pick up the pieces of the ongoing mess that is being made of the country. Farage has undoubtedly had a massive impact on this country over the last 10-15 years or so. Unfortunately for his legacy it won't be seen as a positive impact. I never mentioned positive or negative, people can’t seem to grasp that. Thankfully you and a couple of others seem to have
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Post by andystokey on May 4, 2023 17:25:46 GMT
This whole 'influence' thing is a myth. He's a nobody. He did show how a single issue party can influence the political landscape though, I think he's an absolute bellend but there's no denying that. There's no reason why those advocating PR for example couldn't do something similar, if the will of the people was there a "PR Party" could take massive chunks of votes way from the two main parties and influence them to advocate real change in our system. But to reiterate, he's an utter prick. The bit that most people forget is the massive slosh of money from interested parties. Those sponsors were individually set to gain millions from a referendum and a Brexit. They wrapped it up in a colourful wrapper but greed drove the funding. I don't see any big financial sponsors of a party that gives power back to the people and makes their vote count do you? That's why it will never happen.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 5, 2023 12:24:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 15:32:42 GMT
I call bullshit. Who visits the dentist in the UK? 😂 It’s probably a queue for Greggs.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 5, 2023 16:20:27 GMT
What an absolute clown!
I think somebody is beginning to get a bit twitchy about losing his job.
Prime David Brent ...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2023 18:00:34 GMT
What an absolute clown! I think somebody is beginning to get a bit twitchy about losing his job. Prime David Brent ... I wouldn't normally look forward to someone losing their job because for the most part it's not a good outcome for them and they deserve some sympathy and compassion as a result. In Gullis's case I'll make an exception. Partly because he is devoid of those two emotions himself towards those less well off than average and secondly, mainly, because I'm really interested to see what happens to him next. No state school is going to give him a job surely. So a return to teaching is only at an independent, fee paying school and any interview is going to out him as a too thick to be an asset early enough. Which leaves what, exactly? Some people it's self evident that they'll join a Board or become a lobbyist. With him I honestly can't see any kind of role!
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Post by elystokie on May 5, 2023 18:02:52 GMT
What an absolute clown! I think somebody is beginning to get a bit twitchy about losing his job. Prime David Brent ... I wouldn't normally look forward to someone losing their job because for the most part it's not a good outcome for them and they deserve some sympathy and compassion as a result. In Gullis's case I'll make an exception. Partly because he is devoid of those two emotions himself towards those less well off than average and secondly, mainly, because I'm really interested to see what happens to him next. No state school is going to give him a job surely. So a return to teaching is only at an independent, fee paying school and any interview is going to out him as a too thick to be an asset early enough. Which leaves what, exactly? Some people it's self evident that they'll join a Board or become a lobbyist. With him I honestly can't see any kind of role! He's nailed on for a stint with Ant and Dec in the jungle at some point I reckon 🙂
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Post by knype on May 5, 2023 18:03:07 GMT
What an absolute clown! I think somebody is beginning to get a bit twitchy about losing his job. Prime David Brent ... I wouldn't normally look forward to someone losing their job because for the most part it's not a good outcome for them and they deserve some sympathy and compassion as a result. In Gullis's case I'll make an exception. Partly because he is devoid of those two emotions himself towards those less well off than average and secondly, mainly, because I'm really interested to see what happens to him next. No state school is going to give him a job surely. So a return to teaching is only at an independent, fee paying school and any interview is going to out him as a too thick to be an asset early enough. Which leaves what, exactly? Some people it's self evident that they'll join a Board or become a lobbyist. With him I honestly can't see any kind of role! But done a decent job around Kidsgrove and Talke what he was elected to do?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2023 18:16:16 GMT
I wouldn't normally look forward to someone losing their job because for the most part it's not a good outcome for them and they deserve some sympathy and compassion as a result. In Gullis's case I'll make an exception. Partly because he is devoid of those two emotions himself towards those less well off than average and secondly, mainly, because I'm really interested to see what happens to him next. No state school is going to give him a job surely. So a return to teaching is only at an independent, fee paying school and any interview is going to out him as a too thick to be an asset early enough. Which leaves what, exactly? Some people it's self evident that they'll join a Board or become a lobbyist. With him I honestly can't see any kind of role! But done a decent job around Kidsgrove and Talke what he was elected to do? What's he done around Kidsgrove and Talke that was a good job?
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Post by knype on May 5, 2023 18:28:41 GMT
But done a decent job around Kidsgrove and Talke what he was elected to do? What's he done around Kidsgrove and Talke that was a good job? If you lived local you'd know?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2023 18:37:21 GMT
What's he done around Kidsgrove and Talke that was a good job? If you lived local you'd know? I don't, which is why I was asking you.... What's he done in Kidsgrove and Talke that you think has been a good job?
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Post by Veritas on May 5, 2023 19:21:08 GMT
I wouldn't normally look forward to someone losing their job because for the most part it's not a good outcome for them and they deserve some sympathy and compassion as a result. In Gullis's case I'll make an exception. Partly because he is devoid of those two emotions himself towards those less well off than average and secondly, mainly, because I'm really interested to see what happens to him next. No state school is going to give him a job surely. So a return to teaching is only at an independent, fee paying school and any interview is going to out him as a too thick to be an asset early enough. Which leaves what, exactly? Some people it's self evident that they'll join a Board or become a lobbyist. With him I honestly can't see any kind of role! But done a decent job around Kidsgrove and Talke what he was elected to do? The man has made Stoke a laughing stock
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Post by lordb on May 5, 2023 19:33:22 GMT
What's he done around Kidsgrove and Talke that was a good job? If you lived local you'd know? Is it a secret?
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Post by chiprockets on May 5, 2023 19:46:05 GMT
If you lived local you'd know? I don't, which is why I was asking you.... What's he done in Kidsgrove and Talke that you think has been a good job? stop it, condescending piece of shit asking for facts!
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Post by chiprockets on May 5, 2023 19:47:01 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2023 20:15:57 GMT
I don't, which is why I was asking you.... What's he done in Kidsgrove and Talke that you think has been a good job? stop it, condescending piece of shit asking for facts! Off he trots. Again
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Post by gawa on May 5, 2023 20:16:55 GMT
If you lived local you'd know? I don't, which is why I was asking you.... What's he done in Kidsgrove and Talke that you think has been a good job? Knype is generally neutral when it comes to politics and has no affiliation to parties. So if this councillor is getting a recommendation from him then I trust he must have done a good job. Looking forward to hearing about it.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 5, 2023 20:40:50 GMT
This is an absolute disgrace. It's hard to imagine that this could be even possibly true. What have we become?
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Post by chiprockets on May 5, 2023 20:46:45 GMT
This is an absolute disgrace. It's hard to imagine that this could be even possibly true. What have we become? coincidence its today I'm sure... Article even mentions 80+ brands are dismayed, which to means we'll be doing some cheap deal with a backwards looking country who abuse animals
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 5, 2023 20:47:09 GMT
I don't, which is why I was asking you.... What's he done in Kidsgrove and Talke that you think has been a good job? Knype is generally neutral when it comes to politics and has no affiliation to parties. So if this councillor is getting a recommendation from him then I trust he must have done a good job. Looking forward to hearing about it. Haha! I suspect that is what he'd like you to think, along with almost every other right-winger on here who, in response to the last five, ten, 13 years (take your pick) has now decided that all parties are the same! Gullis is an MP in Stoke-on-Trent. One of the more right-wing Conservative MPs, whose approach to politics is generally to demonise asylum seekers, immigrants, non-specified scrotes and scumbags, lefty lawyers, the EU, foreigners in general, anyone who doesn't think Brexit has been a raging success etc etc. Like you say, looking forward to hearing what it is that constitutes a job well done in Kidsgrove and Talke. As usual, I suspect the wait will be a long one.
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Post by gawa on May 5, 2023 21:07:50 GMT
Knype is generally neutral when it comes to politics and has no affiliation to parties. So if this councillor is getting a recommendation from him then I trust he must have done a good job. Looking forward to hearing about it. Haha! I suspect that is what he'd like you to think, along with almost every other right-winger on here who, in response to the last five, ten, 13 years (take your pick) has now decided that all parties are the same! Gullis is an MP in Stoke-on-Trent. One of the more right-wing Conservative MPs, whose approach to politics is generally to demonise asylum seekers, immigrants, non-specified scrotes and scumbags, lefty lawyers, the EU, foreigners in general, anyone who doesn't think Brexit has been a raging success etc etc. Like you say, looking forward to hearing what it is that constitutes a job well done in Kidsgrove and Talke. As usual, I suspect the wait will be a long one. I'm not from the area so I've no idea what they do or have done there. In their defence they did secure a lot of the investment for the area but I'm sure being a tory council with a tory mp influenced that decision. Unfortunately though despite securing so much investment. The impression I get is that all the public services have got worse and you now have a big car park that nobody uses? Probably the usual tory tactic. Secure lots of funding > give it to tory controlled area > spend the money on something pointless that a tory donor specialises in > waste all the money on pointless thing and line pockets of tory donor > boast about spending most money ever and having nothing to show for it. I'm not sure if spending the most money to get the worst results in history is something to boast about. Rishi thinks it is.
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