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Post by toppercorner on Apr 30, 2023 15:42:11 GMT
i do still feel that the issue of freeports is going to be so huge in the not too distant future, that it really should have its own thread starting now, I'm just not sure if people would want that?
It is all down to tory corruption at the end of the day, but it's going to drag on for years when that corrupt cabal has long gone.
The laws that have been ignored, corporations that rule the roost instead of democracy, the industrial scale environmental damage ... the list goes on and on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 17:19:23 GMT
i do still feel that the issue of freeports is going to be so huge in the not too distant future, that it really should have its own thread starting now, I'm just not sure if people would want that? It is all down to tory corruption at the end of the day, but it's going to drag on for years when that corrupt cabal has long gone. The laws that have been ignored, corporations that rule the roost instead of democracy, the industrial scale environmental damage ... the list goes on and on. It’s interesting that a lot of countries have some forms of free port: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_economic_zonesSome of which have been very successful on a large scale such as Singapore. In the article, they state that no official complaint has been made outside of the protections for Parliamentary Privilege. I didn’t see the date on the article but is that still the case? Surely, if they have evidence for corruption, they’ll be officially providing that? (Given the Tory government’s lack of general moral compass, it wouldn’t shock me).
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 30, 2023 23:05:53 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 30, 2023 23:27:10 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 1, 2023 0:56:01 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 1, 2023 1:05:13 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 1, 2023 7:31:32 GMT
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Post by Han Solo on May 1, 2023 9:33:18 GMT
Just got sent a link for this thought KS handled it well.
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Post by sticky on May 1, 2023 10:17:55 GMT
3 pamphlets through the door for local elections (I’ve never voted or shown any interest to until this last year) 2 clearly state which party they’re representing.. and then the other has no mention anywhere… the shape of the logo looked familiar, albeit it’s been filled in with a British flag. Turns out it’s the conservative logo.. how do they get away with pushing a pamphlet through the door asking people to vote for them, but not disclosing what party they are🤷🏼♂️bit naughty that imo
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Post by gawa on May 1, 2023 10:22:06 GMT
Just got sent a link for this thought KS handled it well. Anyone else just get a natwest advert?
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Post by Han Solo on May 1, 2023 10:31:25 GMT
Just got sent a link for this thought KS handled it well. Anyone else just get a natwest advert? Sorry mate try this. Comes across well. Safe pair of hands.
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Post by gawa on May 1, 2023 11:21:54 GMT
Anyone else just get a natwest advert? Sorry mate try this. Comes across well. Safe pair of hands. That's worked now mate. Out at the min but will listen later
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 11:24:02 GMT
3 pamphlets through the door for local elections (I’ve never voted or shown any interest to until this last year) 2 clearly state which party they’re representing.. and then the other has no mention anywhere… the shape of the logo looked familiar, albeit it’s been filled in with a British flag. Turns out it’s the conservative logo.. how do they get away with pushing a pamphlet through the door asking people to vote for them, but not disclosing what party they are🤷🏼♂️bit naughty that imo Doesn’t it seem a bit stupid more than naughty? How would you vote for someone if you didn’t know who they were?
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Post by sticky on May 1, 2023 11:25:11 GMT
3 pamphlets through the door for local elections (I’ve never voted or shown any interest to until this last year) 2 clearly state which party they’re representing.. and then the other has no mention anywhere… the shape of the logo looked familiar, albeit it’s been filled in with a British flag. Turns out it’s the conservative logo.. how do they get away with pushing a pamphlet through the door asking people to vote for them, but not disclosing what party they are🤷🏼♂️bit naughty that imo Doesn’t it seem a bit stupid more than naughty? How would you vote for someone if you didn’t know who they were? I just assumed names are on the ballot paper 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by Han Solo on May 1, 2023 11:52:25 GMT
Sorry mate try this. Comes across well. Safe pair of hands. That's worked now mate. Out at the min but will listen later No worries. I think that the presenter nails it when he says we just want someone “boring” not some big personality like Johnson. I guess that’s why I quite liked Major who was very well known as being depicted as being grey. I’m sure Starmer has got his weaknesses (can be indecisive and scared of upsetting the minorities etc) but he comes across as a good man who on the whole is quite principled and cares about the U.K.
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2023 12:02:40 GMT
That's worked now mate. Out at the min but will listen later No worries. I think that the presenter nails it when he says we just want someone “boring” not some big personality like Johnson. I guess that’s why I quite liked Major who was very well known as being depicted as being grey. I’m sure Starmer has got his weaknesses (can be indecisive and scared of upsetting the minorities etc) but he comes across as a good man who on the whole is quite principled and cares about the U.K. I think he's been very decisive I don't agree with everything he does and says but indecisive? Definitely not 'scared of upsetting the minorities' Possibly re the Scots, otherwise don't see that either
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Post by Han Solo on May 1, 2023 12:08:45 GMT
No worries. I think that the presenter nails it when he says we just want someone “boring” not some big personality like Johnson. I guess that’s why I quite liked Major who was very well known as being depicted as being grey. I’m sure Starmer has got his weaknesses (can be indecisive and scared of upsetting the minorities etc) but he comes across as a good man who on the whole is quite principled and cares about the U.K. I think he's been very decisive I don't agree with everything he does and says but indecisive? Definitely not 'scared of upsetting the minorities' Possibly re the Scots, otherwise don't see that either As I said I do like him but when I’m talking about indecisive I’m thinking about the what is a women / gender arguments.
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Post by lordb on May 1, 2023 13:29:12 GMT
I think he's been very decisive I don't agree with everything he does and says but indecisive? Definitely not 'scared of upsetting the minorities' Possibly re the Scots, otherwise don't see that either As I said I do like him but when I’m talking about indecisive I’m thinking about the what is a women / gender arguments. Tbh took notice of that one What did he say?
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Post by Han Solo on May 1, 2023 14:08:03 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 1, 2023 20:53:23 GMT
Just noticed essexboy hasn’t posted on his thread for several weeks. Hope he’s okay.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 2, 2023 11:06:53 GMT
It's going to be very interesting to see what Johnson and his cronies do as the election nears. Obviously, there are powerful figures working to get him another shot at No 10 and he's said he wants that himself...so, does he 'allow' Sunak to continue to narrow the gap between the two parties to the point where he might actually win and remain in Downing St or does he start to sow a bit of discord in the ranks in the hope that Sunak loses and Johnson gets to be leader of the Opposition (and potentially PM again one day). Difficult to see Bozo having the patience to do any of those things. I'm sure in his head he thinks he should just be reinstated into No 10 and that would be that!
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Post by wannabee on May 2, 2023 11:32:27 GMT
It's going to be very interesting to see what Johnson and his cronies do as the election nears. Obviously, there are powerful figures working to get him another shot at No 10 and he's said he wants that himself...so, does he 'allow' Sunak to continue to narrow the gap between the two parties to the point where he might actually win and remain in Downing St or does he start to sow a bit of discord in the ranks in the hope that Sunak loses and Johnson gets to be leader of the Opposition (and potentially PM again one day). Difficult to see Bozo having the patience to do any of those things. I'm sure in his head he thinks he should just be reinstated into No 10 and that would be that! As Bozo's long term ambition is to be "King of the World" perhaps next Saturday he will storm the Abbey, seize the Crown and force the Bish to do his thing. This would obviously just be a stepping stone. Whether he will be joined by Nadine or Carrie as his Consort/Queen remains in doubt
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Post by foster on May 2, 2023 11:38:30 GMT
It's going to be very interesting to see what Johnson and his cronies do as the election nears. Obviously, there are powerful figures working to get him another shot at No 10 and he's said he wants that himself...so, does he 'allow' Sunak to continue to narrow the gap between the two parties to the point where he might actually win and remain in Downing St or does he start to sow a bit of discord in the ranks in the hope that Sunak loses and Johnson gets to be leader of the Opposition (and potentially PM again one day). Difficult to see Bozo having the patience to do any of those things. I'm sure in his head he thinks he should just be reinstated into No 10 and that would be that! As Bozo's long term ambition is to be "King of the World" perhaps next Saturday he will storm the Abbey, seize the Crown and force the Bish to do his thing. This would obviously just be a stepping stone. Whether he will be joined by Nadine or Carrie as his Consort/Queen remains in doubt At least something we can agree on. The fact that the Tories even keep him around and haven't kicked him to the curb is proof enough that they're a corrupt bunch of nobbers. There is no defending him or the Tories. Time for change is long overdue.
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Post by toppercorner on May 2, 2023 12:55:21 GMT
Not trying to booster the faltering tory votes from surrounding areas are they?
Dreadful idea too, fuck it off pronto
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 2, 2023 16:25:59 GMT
All a bit wokey cancel culture if you ask me. Feels like everything is anti semetic these days. Personally I don't see how that is antisemitic. As a random example I searched diane Abbott cartoon and she's portrayed much worse in about 10+. Feels you can't have a joke anymore in tory britain without being cancelled. A random example of an Abbott cartoon: Also I feel these cartoons are fair game btw. Only using Abbott as an example as I knew there'd be some bad ones of her. Yes I agree gawa. It's a charecture of a Jewish person, that then it doesn't make it antisemitic. The Abbott cartoon is a charecture of a black person, that then doesn't make it racist. And I actually think you've used the word woke in a correct context. Yeah, I'm not really seeing it either? Sharp was Sunak's boss at Goldman Sachs wasn't he? And the box is obviously a reference to when a load of bankers were seen carrying a box of possessions after being sacked following the financial crisis. Sharp having just resigned from his job. I'm not seeing the anti-semitism?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 2, 2023 16:33:34 GMT
I take it there are local elections in S-o-T this week?
What's the general consensus up there then? Tories holding on via a minority administration, or Labour retaking it?
There are some wild pronouncements coming out of Tory Central about how they're going to lose 1000 councillors on Thursday. I can't see it. They lost a fair few last time and there's only so many seats that will ever change hands. It's probably damage limitation n the basis that if you get the worst case scenario out there anything better than that is a 'success'. They'll probably get something of a kicking as it's the first election following the Johnson/Truss debacle but if they lose many more than 400 I'd be surprised.
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Post by foster on May 2, 2023 16:57:06 GMT
I take it there are local elections in S-o-T this week?What's the general consensus up there then? Tories holding on via a minority administration, or Labour retaking it?There are some wild pronouncements coming out of Tory Central about how they're going to lose 1000 councillors on Thursday. I can't see it. They lost a fair few last time and there's only so many seats that will ever change hands. It's probably damage limitation n the basis that if you get the worst case scenario out there anything better than that is a 'success'. They'll probably get something of a kicking as it's the first election following the Johnson/Truss debacle but if they lose many more than 400 I'd be surprised. Why don't you ask our resident political correspondent? Oh wait, that's you In any case, any Tory loss is everyone elses gain. Give us a summary of how the councilor system works? I honestly don't know.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 2, 2023 17:38:49 GMT
I take it there are local elections in S-o-T this week?What's the general consensus up there then? Tories holding on via a minority administration, or Labour retaking it?There are some wild pronouncements coming out of Tory Central about how they're going to lose 1000 councillors on Thursday. I can't see it. They lost a fair few last time and there's only so many seats that will ever change hands. It's probably damage limitation n the basis that if you get the worst case scenario out there anything better than that is a 'success'. They'll probably get something of a kicking as it's the first election following the Johnson/Truss debacle but if they lose many more than 400 I'd be surprised. Why don't you ask our resident political correspondent? Oh wait, that's you In any case, any Tory loss is everyone elses gain. Give us a summary of how the councilor system works? I honestly don't know. Agreed, on all your points It varies from place to place. Some councils have one third of their seats up for election, others have them all, some have two or three members per ward, others just the one. All very complicated but still done on the FPTP system. The good thing about the local elections is you get more of a variety of candidates actually getting elected. So you'll get independents, ratepayers, local groups, etc. Probably the traditionally low turnout has something to do with it. Then people moan about their councils!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 2, 2023 17:43:45 GMT
I take it there are local elections in S-o-T this week? What's the general consensus up there then? Tories holding on via a minority administration, or Labour retaking it? There are some wild pronouncements coming out of Tory Central about how they're going to lose 1000 councillors on Thursday. I can't see it. They lost a fair few last time and there's only so many seats that will ever change hands. It's probably damage limitation n the basis that if you get the worst case scenario out there anything better than that is a 'success'. They'll probably get something of a kicking as it's the first election following the Johnson/Truss debacle but if they lose many more than 400 I'd be surprised. Now I’m not really into politics 😉 but I’ll be voting labour for the fact that the guy seems to be the only who gives a flying fuck about the area.
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Post by gawa on May 2, 2023 18:05:26 GMT
I take it there are local elections in S-o-T this week? What's the general consensus up there then? Tories holding on via a minority administration, or Labour retaking it? There are some wild pronouncements coming out of Tory Central about how they're going to lose 1000 councillors on Thursday. I can't see it. They lost a fair few last time and there's only so many seats that will ever change hands. It's probably damage limitation n the basis that if you get the worst case scenario out there anything better than that is a 'success'. They'll probably get something of a kicking as it's the first election following the Johnson/Truss debacle but if they lose many more than 400 I'd be surprised. Now I’m not really into politics 😉 but I’ll be voting labour for the fact that the guy seems to be the only who gives a flying fuck about the area. Sounds pretty woke if you ask me. I'm the other way round for the same reasons. Voting a centre right candidate because he works tirelessly for the community. Our votes are done in order of preference though so I'll also put a few of my party preferences up there too.
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