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Post by kustokie on Sept 30, 2017 16:35:01 GMT
Don't worry, Tom is just pissed, he will be okay when he sobers up! Meanwhile, I don't agree with the language in the OP, I do agree with the sentiment. I agree He could have spared us the "hilariously". The rest was bang on.
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 30, 2017 16:36:51 GMT
I can only remember one through ball where Saido was running toward goal. Van Dijk got a toe in to prevent the shot. He is not a back to goal striker. Not his fault we play a system totally unsuited to his strengths... He had two very good opportunities away at Bristol and neither were back to goal situations. One was a weak scuffed shot from a very good position about 5 yards out, the other was a ball through on goal but he was caught totally flat footed. It would be great if he gets on a scoring run but it's hard to see it as things stand for me.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2017 16:38:37 GMT
I feel I'm more than able to give our players the benefit of any doubt and can easily see the worth of the likes of Whelan and Whitehead for example when others never could.
So it's no knee jerk reaction to point out that Berahino is a number 9 who hasn't scored for a season's worth of Premier League games.
That's some record.
If he's a PL player in two years time I will be amazed. Championship level I reckon.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 30, 2017 16:38:50 GMT
I'm not entirely sure why but I genuinely feel that if we keep the faith here we will reap the rewards. This is not an Imbula type scenario.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 16:39:53 GMT
Fucking pathetic thread after a win, the only hilarious thing is how shit some of our fans are.
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 30, 2017 16:41:00 GMT
Between us and WBA, he's missed 3 penalties in a row.
Not the sign of a striker. He's very poor. Bojan got slated much more, for much less on here.
I'm really not into being negative about our own players, but he's simply not good enough in all aspects of his game.
He's going to have to buy yet another striker in January
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 30, 2017 16:41:05 GMT
Death, taxes and Stoke fans moaning... nothing is more certain in life.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Sept 30, 2017 16:42:29 GMT
Fucking pathetic thread after a win, the only hilarious thing is how shit some of our fans are. Agreed this is what one 'fan' said when we scored the second. 'Yes, get in Crouchy !!!!!!! Still our main man ! Probably covering up Hughes's inadequacies again.'
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2017 16:43:36 GMT
Death, taxes and Stoke fans moaning... nothing is more certain in life. Jesus, what's come over you?! Under Pulis that's literally ALL you ever did
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 30, 2017 16:44:45 GMT
What a waste of money!!! Offers absolutely zero from open play, and throws in a missed penalty for good measure. Absolutely garbage. Crouch needs to start from here on in. Hughes clearly can't spend money. I forget, what did the rest offer him in open play?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 30, 2017 16:45:02 GMT
Between us and WBA, he's missed 3 penalties in a row. Not the sign of a striker. He's very poor. Bojan got slated much more, for much less on here. I'm really not into being negative about our own players, but he's simply not good enough in all aspects of his game. He's going to have to buy yet another striker in January That's a perfectly reasonable, non-moaning statement! expect to be slated!
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Post by Jimm on Sept 30, 2017 16:45:18 GMT
He's not a lone striker & has zero confidence. Either put two up top or Crouch has to start
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Post by mrred on Sept 30, 2017 16:49:03 GMT
Only Stoke fans can whine after winning, that's what I call hilarious Come on... we won but if you think were home and dry aftert that performance you've got a screw loose. Yes, enjoy the win but it can't be without criticism. I'm more concerned than I was after a 4-0 drubbing!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 30, 2017 16:49:38 GMT
Between us and WBA, he's missed 3 penalties in a row. Not the sign of a striker. He's very poor. Bojan got slated much more, for much less on here. I'm really not into being negative about our own players, but he's simply not good enough in all aspects of his game. He's going to have to buy yet another striker in January I thought it was 4? He probably isn't the right player for us, its clear we are only good enough to go direct, shown by Crouch making such a difference.
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Post by liathroid on Sept 30, 2017 16:52:44 GMT
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 30, 2017 16:55:39 GMT
Between us and WBA, he's missed 3 penalties in a row. Not the sign of a striker. He's very poor. Bojan got slated much more, for much less on here. I'm really not into being negative about our own players, but he's simply not good enough in all aspects of his game. He's going to have to buy yet another striker in January Don't go stating facts mate, the knuckle draggers won't like it 😂
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Post by spiler on Sept 30, 2017 16:58:25 GMT
I thought EE was bad but this chat-room isn't short of a few pricks either.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 30, 2017 16:58:55 GMT
Talking shit Had one of his best games today, worked hard got into positions and with a bit more confidence would have smashed it down the middle As one of his staunchest supporters, he worked nowhere near hard enough. Didn't help himself, didn't help his team mates. Was fucking aching for him to bury than pen. As was everyone else on their feet. I've got a horribly feeling that was his the chance that would take him on his run. Don't get this "once he scores he'll be banging them in every other week" malarkey. Also not sure why he was allowed to take today's peno being so bereft of confidence. Don't know where we go from here with him tbh. Nobody will want him on loan or whatever. We are stuck with another Palacios imo.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 30, 2017 16:59:04 GMT
I know Stoke fans can be negative fuckers and I count myself as a primary contributor to that tradition but let's not make things up here, this isn't moaning, the opening post is a bit forthright but its entirely correct. He's terrible, utterly fucking terrible, turnarounds in confidence and systems won't mean a thing. His attitude is great, his application and effort is faultless but the bottom line is somewhere over the past 18 months he's become utterly wank and its impossible to see that changing.
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Post by toppercorner on Sept 30, 2017 17:01:11 GMT
Between us and WBA, he's missed 3 penalties in a row. Not the sign of a striker. He's very poor. Bojan got slated much more, for much less on here. I'm really not into being negative about our own players, but he's simply not good enough in all aspects of his game. He's going to have to buy yet another striker in January I thought it was 4? He probably isn't the right player for us, its clear we are only good enough to go direct, shown by Crouch making such a difference. oh dear, that's even worse then.
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2017 17:01:34 GMT
What a waste of money!!! Offers absolutely zero from open play, and throws in a missed penalty for good measure. Absolutely garbage. Crouch needs to start from here on in. Hughes clearly can't spend money. Crouch should never start a premier league game again. He is fine as a sub coming on as something different. To say he should start is ludicrous!
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 30, 2017 17:01:42 GMT
I know Stoke fans can be negative fuckers and I count myself as a primary contributor to that tradition but let's not make things up here, this isn't moaning, the opening post is a bit forthright but its entirely correct. He's terrible, utterly fucking terrible, turnarounds in confidence and systems won't mean a thing. His attitude is great, his application and effort is faultless but the bottom line is somewhere over the past 18 months he's become utterly wank and its impossible to see that changing. Correct. And Hughes needs to accept it sooner rather than later.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Sept 30, 2017 17:02:17 GMT
What a waste of money!!! Offers absolutely zero from open play, and throws in a missed penalty for good measure. Absolutely garbage. Crouch needs to start from here on in. Hughes clearly can't spend money. Crouch should never start a premier league game again. He is fine as a sub coming on as something different. To say he should start is ludicrous! Okay. Let's start with Saido then and effectively have 10 men on the pitch.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 30, 2017 17:03:26 GMT
I really want to like him and he is trying, but he made no difference to the 'focal point' issue whatsoever and nobody in the ground thought that penalty was going in. Which isn't ideal for your number 9.
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Post by mrred on Sept 30, 2017 17:04:05 GMT
I know Stoke fans can be negative fuckers and I count myself as a primary contributor to that tradition but let's not make things up here, this isn't moaning, the opening post is a bit forthright but its entirely correct. He's terrible, utterly fucking terrible, turnarounds in confidence and systems won't mean a thing. His attitude is great, his application and effort is faultless but the bottom line is somewhere over the past 18 months he's become utterly wank and its impossible to see that changing. Correct. And Hughes needs to accept it sooner rather than later. He's dumped a big chunk of change on him. Droppinghim or sending him out on loan would spell the end of his time here I think. Would be another of his signings that hasn't worked out. An expensive one at that.
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Post by samba :) on Sept 30, 2017 17:04:17 GMT
I thought he was decent,he looked quite pively at times and he won us a penalty...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2017 17:04:18 GMT
What a waste of money!!! Offers absolutely zero from open play, and throws in a missed penalty for good measure. Absolutely garbage. Crouch needs to start from here on in. Hughes clearly can't spend money. Crouch should never start a premier league game again. He is fine as a sub coming on as something different. To say he should start is ludicrous! Crouch delivers. He keeps on proving people wrong. I'm not enamoured with the situation but give the guy the credit he deserves.
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Post by datguy on Sept 30, 2017 17:05:13 GMT
Some Stoke fans are really shitty.
'fans'
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Post by tomcmod on Sept 30, 2017 17:07:34 GMT
Crouch should never start a premier league game again. He is fine as a sub coming on as something different. To say he should start is ludicrous! Okay. Let's start with Saido then and effectively have 10 men on the pitch. He did what he asked of by holding up the ball making the runs. He is just having no luck. When he scores it will be the hardest chance he's had. He does need someone to play alongside him though. I would have taken Shaq off and played him and Crouch together. Saido seems the only one who can run off the shoulder and he'd get the ball from a flick on. You can see the runs he makes, he just never gets it, like Arnie didn't.
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 30, 2017 17:09:06 GMT
What a waste of money!!! Offers absolutely zero from open play, and throws in a missed penalty for good measure. Absolutely garbage. Crouch needs to start from here on in. Hughes clearly can't spend money. Were you at the game today? Berahino played very well! He made the penalty! He never shirked from wanting to take the penalty! His attempt was saved by one of the best penalty saving keepers in the Premier League. The game changed completely when Crouch came on for Berahino. At a time in the game when Southampton were going to be throwing players forward we needed to retain pace up front. Southampton can feel very disappointed. The one silly decision nearly cost us the match. Having Crouch up front means that it is very very unlikely that we are going to exploit areas in behind the oppositions defence. The only place Crouch is really effective is around the six yard box and thank goodness we eventually had a piece of luck for once. Get of Berahino's back!!!! His penalty was saved but even the very best players in the world have penalties saved. Frustrating but Berahino will come good especially when being selected with Jese.
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