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Post by raythesailor on Sept 4, 2017 21:01:33 GMT
Well in summation,
The pundits have let Joe Hart off the hook. He could, and should, have done better for the first goal.
I thought Slovakia were very good for the first half, and shows that we will struggle against better oppositions assuming that we progress to the finals.
Never the less we have won and so I should feel pleased, but to be honest it all seems a little flat and like many on here have intimated I am not as enthusiastic about England as I used to be.
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Post by salopstick on Sept 4, 2017 21:09:01 GMT
They lost the nation when for what ever reason they mainly only picked too 4 club players.
Those players would be picked come rain or shine and rarely dropped through lack of form.
There were times when Rooneys form should have saw him dropped. He never was
There are times when etherington, crouch(at stoke) shawcross noble and a few others should have had a good run but never got the chance.
Now we see players picked more often regardless of club so it’s a start
I don’t get the passion argument but they need to reconnect with the fans. Play more games around the uk, a few open training sessions.
Get them to enjoy playing for England as opposed to playing for the FA corporate machine
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Post by StoKeith on Sept 4, 2017 21:10:11 GMT
Alli is such an idiot for sticking his middle finger up at the ref's back. Did he suddenly forget about all of the cameras in the stadium?
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 4, 2017 21:11:40 GMT
What Tony scholes likes in the bedroom? I know how he likes his eggs in the morning. Fertilised?
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Post by lancashirelad on Sept 4, 2017 21:15:47 GMT
Good win. Team marks 6 being average. Hart 6. Walker 5 Cahill 5 Jones 7 Bertram 5; Dier 4 Henderson 7; ox 5 Alli 7 Rashford 8 Kane 6 Alli gets a 7? Another shite performance in an England shirt for me. Alli kept trying and when he Rashford started to link up he to me started to show his talent. The two youngest players stood out I thought. Dier did live up to his name , he had a few decent games over a year ago but now makes Livermore look a first choice.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:20:41 GMT
We have a few good attacking players, and a load of shit midfielders and defenders.
Most importantly we have a shit manager.
Formation was all wrong once again at the start.
We will qualify and go into next years tournament with no sort of coherent plan.as usual
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 4, 2017 21:24:01 GMT
Good win. Team marks 6 being average. Hart 6. Walker 5 Cahill 5 Jones 7 Bertram 5; Dier 4 Henderson 7; ox 5 Alli 7 Rashford 8 Kane 6 Hart gets a 6 he had only one thing to do and didn't do it that constitutes below adverage
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 4, 2017 21:25:09 GMT
We have a few good attacking players, and a load of shit midfielders and defenders. Most importantly we have a shit manager. Formation was all wrong once again at the start. We will qualify and go into next years tournament with no sort of coherent plan.as usual And get dicked. As usual.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 4, 2017 21:28:14 GMT
Good win. Team marks 6 being average. Hart 6. Walker 5 Cahill 5 Jones 7 Bertram 5; Dier 4 Henderson 7; ox 5 Alli 7 Rashford 8 Kane 6 Hart gets a 6 he had only one thing to do and didn't do it that constitutes below adverage Alli should have a 2 for flipping the bird to the Ref which will now see him banned for 3 games at least. Total twat.
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 4, 2017 21:31:26 GMT
We have a few good attacking players, and a load of shit midfielders and defenders. Most importantly we have a shit manager. Formation was all wrong once again at the start. We will qualify and go into next years tournament with no sort of coherent plan.as usual And get dicked. As usual. Then claim we have a bright generation to come through for the next tournament just like the last tournament
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:37:11 GMT
Hart gets a 6 he had only one thing to do and didn't do it that constitutes below adverage Alli should have a 2 for flipping the bird to the Ref which will now see him banned for 3 games at least. Total twat. He'll be fine according to Southgate he was giving Walker the finger as "that's how they communicate"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:42:28 GMT
Alli should have a 2 for flipping the bird to the Ref which will now see him banned for 3 games at least. Total twat. He'll be fine according to Southgate he was giving Walker the finger as "that's how they communicate" Really? He's said that??
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Post by march4 on Sept 4, 2017 21:44:18 GMT
Alli should have a 2 for flipping the bird to the Ref which will now see him banned for 3 games at least. Total twat. He'll be fine according to Southgate he was giving Walker the finger as "that's how they communicate" I wonder if Uncle Junior would make a good referee.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:53:02 GMT
He'll be fine according to Southgate he was giving Walker the finger as "that's how they communicate" Really? He's said that?? "Deli and Kyle were messing about......they have stange ways of communicating with each other" That's exactly what he said......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 21:53:36 GMT
He'll be fine according to Southgate he was giving Walker the finger as "that's how they communicate" I wonder if Uncle Junior would make a good referee. Strict and not necessarily fair I would imagine......
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 4, 2017 22:05:07 GMT
Not been in the house to watch the game, take it we were as awful as we were against Malta? Really really lackluster in that game so I expect the same
All's I know is we won because I had England in an acca for today and won my acca
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 22:07:08 GMT
"Deli and Kyle were messing about......they have stange ways of communicating with each other" That's exactly what he said...... Ffs
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Post by StoKeith on Sept 4, 2017 22:21:43 GMT
We have a few good attacking players, and a load of shit midfielders and defenders. ...and a fantastic keeper! Who didn't play.
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Post by stokieinaus on Sept 4, 2017 23:11:21 GMT
England will never improve until they start to play as a team. Too many times players take shots from impossible positions rather than passing to other players in the area. I have said it before and will say it again, there are too many shop window footballers these days - "its all about me". Unfortunately, for the average fan, scoring goals gets you noticed whereas providing them does not.
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Post by davethebass on Sept 4, 2017 23:21:40 GMT
Itv highlights. In defence of Hart for not doing better for Slovakia's goal - "maybe he's lacking in confidence after conceding ten goals in the last three games."
You just couldn't make it up
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Post by Northy on Sept 5, 2017 1:45:52 GMT
England will never improve until they start to play as a team. Too many times players take shots from impossible positions rather than passing to other players in the area. I have said it before and will say it again, there are too many shop window footballers these days - "its all about me". Unfortunately, for the average fan, scoring goals gets you noticed whereas providing them does not. yep, decision making in the final 3rd is very poor, running into blind alleys and not looking up, or shooting at 3 defenders when an easy ball is on.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 5, 2017 2:56:50 GMT
Some of the critisism thrown at England is warranted, some of it isn't.
That was only the 3rd goal we've conceeded in qualifying. The other two were against Scotland.
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 5, 2017 4:35:05 GMT
Some of the critisism thrown at England is warranted, some of it isn't. That was only the 3rd goal we've conceeded in qualifying. The other two were against Scotland. In fairness i don't think jack would have conceded at least 2 of them
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 5, 2017 5:35:07 GMT
Some of the critisism thrown at England is warranted, some of it isn't. That was only the 3rd goal we've conceeded in qualifying. The other two were against Scotland. In fairness i don't think jack would have conceded at least 2 of them The first free kick v Scotland was a good goal. But the others were manageable.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 5, 2017 6:04:25 GMT
How does Dier get anywhere near an international shirt?
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Post by rawli on Sept 5, 2017 6:08:47 GMT
God, England are just so slow and predictable.....sideways, slow passing with no penetration.....sound familiar? My sexual technique?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 5, 2017 6:10:27 GMT
England will never improve until they start to play as a team. Too many times players take shots from impossible positions rather than passing to other players in the area. I have said it before and will say it again, there are too many shop window footballers these days - "its all about me". Unfortunately, for the average fan, scoring goals gets you noticed whereas providing them does not. Exactly this. Chamberlain flatters to deceive ...yes he can run and kick a ball but his final touch and shot attempts are almost always hopeless. As usual we will qualify at a canter because of the luck of seeded groups then be humiliated at the finals.
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Post by greyman on Sept 5, 2017 6:11:45 GMT
Some of the critisism thrown at England is warranted, some of it isn't. That was only the 3rd goal we've conceeded in qualifying. The other two were against Scotland. All of it is warranted. We know what's coming at the finals. We also know that Southgate will feel like his selections are justified and they'll all be exposed the moment we come up against a half decent opponent, and maybe even a team like Iceland again.
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Post by huuuuuth on Sept 5, 2017 6:13:20 GMT
How does Dier get anywhere near an international shirt? I have no idier
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 5, 2017 6:44:37 GMT
Some of the critisism thrown at England is warranted, some of it isn't. That was only the 3rd goal we've conceeded in qualifying. The other two were against Scotland. All of it is warranted. We know what's coming at the finals. We also know that Southgate will feel like his selections are justified and they'll all be exposed the moment we come up against a half decent opponent, and maybe even a team like Iceland again. Disagree. People lose all sense of rational thought when it comes to the England team. Criticise now for what's coming next year being a prime example. And some no doubt think quarter final would be a failure when, bu any historical measure, it's a decent result for England.
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