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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 20:45:06 GMT
I thought we played quite well today without creating anything yet again.
We cannot keep going on with a team who have no idea how to attack other sides and a team who have no cutting edge whatsoever. The only time we looked dangerous today was in the last 20 minutes when we were belting balls up to Peter Crouch. Hughes has to go.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 12, 2017 20:45:48 GMT
There's only two facts you need to concern yourself with. 1) The window is still well and truly open 2) One difficult away game in and not all doom and gloom as you make out. It's not one game though is it pal? It's the last two seasons? Yes, i agree last two seasons, but we start this one a new slate, the past is the past. I agree we still have some same issues, but like i said the window is well and truly open for a while yet and we all know they're trying to bring in hopefully good players. Until the end of August we should just keep our fingers crossed for those players and back the boys.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 12, 2017 20:47:06 GMT
He was gash last season which is why Arnie left. Dog shit! Think and tell me again why Arnie left?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 12, 2017 20:47:19 GMT
He was gash last season which is why Arnie left. Dog shit! Bullshit Arny left for more money
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Aug 12, 2017 20:47:39 GMT
Why don't they just stay away?? It's dead simple Someone have to point the finger on the things he do not manage so well. That is one of the reason we have this forum. Better to call the people you refere to as the guardians of Stoke City FC.
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Post by riponstokie on Aug 12, 2017 20:49:16 GMT
It's not one game though is it pal? It's the last two seasons? Yes, i agree last two seasons, but we start this one a new slate, the past is the past. I agree we still have some same issues, but like i said the window is well and truly open for a while yet and we all know they're trying to bring in hopefully good players. Until the end of August we should just keep our fingers crossed for those players and back the boys. Well I admire your optimism pal. I'm desperate for us to succeed, and with that back three of Kurt Ryan and Bruno I've hope we will have enough. We need to spend big money, and hopefully it'll turn the whole energy around.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 12, 2017 20:50:31 GMT
Yes, i agree last two seasons, but we start this one a new slate, the past is the past. I agree we still have some same issues, but like i said the window is well and truly open for a while yet and we all know they're trying to bring in hopefully good players. Until the end of August we should just keep our fingers crossed for those players and back the boys. Well I admire your optimism pal. I'm desperate for us to succeed, and with that back three of Kurt Ryan and Bruno I've hope we will have enough. We need to spend big money, and hopefully it'll turn the whole energy around. We dont need to spend big money we need to spend money wisely
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 12, 2017 20:50:36 GMT
His record of top ten finishes here and elsewhere suggests with the right backing he gets it right more than most .
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Post by PolPotter on Aug 12, 2017 20:52:14 GMT
He was gash last season which is why Arnie left. Dog shit! Think and tell me again why Arnie left? Do you honestly think Arnie left for 25k more? No fkin chance. Take a look at West Ham's buys!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 20:52:50 GMT
His record of top ten finishes here and elsewhere  suggests with the right backing he gets it right more than most . Wow spot on Benji 😲 and succinctly put.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 20:54:55 GMT
Yes, i agree last two seasons, but we start this one a new slate, the past is the past. I agree we still have some same issues, but like i said the window is well and truly open for a while yet and we all know they're trying to bring in hopefully good players. Until the end of August we should just keep our fingers crossed for those players and back the boys. Well I admire your optimism pal. I'm desperate for us to succeed, and with that back three of Kurt Ryan and Bruno I've hope we will have enough. We need to spend big money, and hopefully it'll turn the whole energy around. Has Coates lost faith in Hughes hence the limited spending ?, if so why not just sack him now, no more excuses about slow starts and players needing to gel it's bollocks, Hughes is incompetent and clueless.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 12, 2017 20:55:34 GMT
Think and tell me again why Arnie left? Do you honestly think Arnie left for 25k more? No fkin chance. Take a look at West Ham's buys! What???? he left for more money nothing else
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 20:57:16 GMT
Well I admire your optimism pal. I'm desperate for us to succeed, and with that back three of Kurt Ryan and Bruno I've hope we will have enough. We need to spend big money, and hopefully it'll turn the whole energy around. We dont need to spend big money we need to spend money wisely I actually agree , Hughes has wasted far to much of the clubs money on players who have failed or are failing, time to get rid of the problem get a manager in who can turn this around with limited spending.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 20:58:14 GMT
After the end of last season i thought he needed to go. Now, i'm happy to give him plenty time this season, as you can bet the owners will, so it's pointless carrying on all this negativity which will only affect the team so it really needs to stop once the games start. The only reason i think some carry it on so strongly, is they want him to fail to try prove they were right. It seems sone really would hate him to succeed now. Sad really. I've become frustrated with Hughes but I genuinely want him to get it right. He delivered fantastic football when he first arrived, some of the best I have seen here. Agreed Sir
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 12, 2017 20:58:20 GMT
We can't score , manager here 4 years , prize striker chased for 2 years no idea how to use him !!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 20:59:25 GMT
He was gash last season which is why Arnie left. Dog shit! Bullshit Arny left for more money Corrrect......money money money .......
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Post by thevoid on Aug 12, 2017 21:00:22 GMT
Why don't they just stay away?? It's dead simple Because people go to football matches with differing opinions on things. It'd be a pretty lame convo in the pub otherwise
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Post by mrred on Aug 12, 2017 21:00:23 GMT
It's not about wanting to be right, we all want Stoke to succeed. Hughes helped instil enjoyment in football after years of Pulis' militant reign. Those first 2 years we're fucking incredible. The bloke was fighting hard to prove he wasn't a shill.
But he's got himself in a 2 year rut that he seemingly can't get out of. I've seen little/ nothing this pre season and today that he's learned any lessons. That said the additions of Choppu and Fletcher look like very safe bits of business. But as it is, I'd seen enough by 15/16 to know that he's out of steam.
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Post by PolPotter on Aug 12, 2017 21:03:47 GMT
Do you honestly think Arnie left for 25k more? No fkin chance. Take a look at West Ham's buys! What???? he left for more money nothing else No. The money was only a benefit.
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 12, 2017 21:06:15 GMT
We dont need to spend big money we need to spend money wisely I actually agree , Hughes has wasted far to much of the clubs money on players who have failed or are failing, time to get rid of the problem get a manager in who can turn this around with limited spending. Name a manager that could possibly do this?
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 12, 2017 21:14:56 GMT
Keep yer powder dry. There are concerns but lets see how it pans ot. Keep yer powder dry and have a drink 🥃
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Post by superheroantonius on Aug 12, 2017 21:15:19 GMT
I agree Hughes was doing well until he signed imbula Imbula and berahino have been brought out the worse in him. Showing he has a richard nixon streak when it comes to wanting to cover up his mistakes.
Observing from the outside I don't think his, so what if imbula doesn't track back, tackle or try, he is playing anyway thing, went down well with whelan and Adam.
I don't think his lets overlook berahino not scoring goals, not being fit, getting banned from driving for whatever, getting banned From playing football for drugs he's playing anyway went down well with walters and sobhi.
At one point he seemed to be having a pop at sobhi for getting married, while being chilled about berahino doing much worse.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Aug 12, 2017 21:15:29 GMT
What pisses me off more than anything is the people that knock siado, he cost 12 million for christ sake, the strikers that will guarantee 10-15-20 goals a season are going to cost 25 million plus, so that says to me they are either thick as pig shit and or have a massive agenda against Hughes, its almost like the" why havent we replaced Nzonzi" shite like its that easy to replace one of europes top midfielders, its soo easy on football manager but this is real shit & not a computer game. True but I would still of expected a few goals by now.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 21:18:23 GMT
I actually agree , Hughes has wasted far to much of the clubs money on players who have failed or are failing, time to get rid of the problem get a manager in who can turn this around with limited spending. Name a manager that could possibly do this? Best direct that question to the board they will need to name one soon.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 12, 2017 21:21:13 GMT
Robbie savage is suggesting Hughes walks due to the lack of spending by the transfer team. He would and let's hope he is right about Hughes walking away.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2017 21:21:38 GMT
After the end of last season i thought he needed to go. Now, i'm happy to give him plenty time this season, as you can bet the owners will, so it's pointless carrying on all this negativity which will only affect the team so it really needs to stop once the games start. The only reason i think some carry it on so strongly, is they want him to fail to try prove they were right. It seems sone really would hate him to succeed now. Sad really. I wanted him gone to and still do, its up to him to turn me round, he has a lot of work to do in that respect, and so far one of those things looks to be the same as ever, his use of subs, its a big problem for me and it needs to change, but he has time, our run in is difficult so the results aren't a big deal, we win a couple great, we don't ah well its Arsenal, Man U etc, its the way he goes about things is what matters to me.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 12, 2017 21:22:09 GMT
Why don't they just stay away?? It's dead simple Its a forum for all opinions, not just ones you agree with.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 12, 2017 21:22:12 GMT
Why don't they just stay away?? It's dead simple Maybe because they care about the club and sick of watching shit week in week out!!! But what we are watching is shit. It's not great at the minute. But today apart from being clinical was a big improvement on last season. Shit is being 3 0 down at home to Bristol Rovers at half time, shit is losing 6 0 at West Brom, shit is losing 7 0 to Birmingham. This isn't shit at the minute. A lot of fans are massively overreacting to things at the minute to the point that complete bollocks is made up on this board. I've read all sorts of shit from people claiming that the Coates family are richer than Abramovic, Pieters is the worst left back we've ever had (Bryan Small anybody) and Hughes is the worst manager we've ever had. Christ, imagine this message board in the Ball/Paddon era
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 12, 2017 21:23:35 GMT
Think and tell me again why Arnie left? Do you honestly think Arnie left for 25k more? No fkin chance. Take a look at West Ham's buys! So an extra 1.3 million a year in wages and whatever signing on fee wasn't an incentive???
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 12, 2017 21:33:08 GMT
He was gash last season which is why Arnie left. Dog shit! Haha you thick fuck !!! Arnie bailed out chasing the bucks and nothing else
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