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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 7, 2017 17:33:39 GMT
Your phone not got a camera then? My phone has a camera but I've got hands So you thought having a wank was the better option? I get that.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 7, 2017 17:34:26 GMT
I've seen Bruno and Moting together Fuck me my dick is hard. Pics? And I'm not talking about footballers.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 17:36:26 GMT
Of course you can, we did it with Wolly. And if they don't agree to it you don't do the deal. But that wasn't an option because we left signing a crucial player to the last day. Another master stroke Mr Scholes....... The whole deal has been a fuck up. Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. I have done 3 million times. That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Aug 7, 2017 17:39:26 GMT
Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. I have done 3 million times. That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! I can corroborate that. At least 3 million times.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 7, 2017 17:40:21 GMT
Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. I have done 3 million times. That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! Just shut the fuck up!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 17:41:14 GMT
I have done 3 million times. That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! Just shut the fuck up! No, I'm replying to people. Why would I not reply when they're talking crap?
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Post by alster on Aug 7, 2017 17:42:19 GMT
Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. I have done 3 million times. That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! I've not been fond of the bullshit we were spun about the original deal or the brinksmanship over the fee but if it comes off all is forgiven. Could so easily have backfired but it looks like we are getting a tried and tested player at an amazing price.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 17:46:23 GMT
Admit you were wrong, like a man, or bore off and stink up another thread. I'm not wrong though. The incompetence is there in black and white. That's your opinion and based on feedback so far, it seems that you're wrong. But you won't man up and admit it. That's why you're stinking up the thread. Not your opinion. That you won't reflect on things.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 7, 2017 17:47:31 GMT
I'd prefer both versions to be honest. Bruno was nowhere near as good as you and many others seem to make out. He was as weak defensively as any of the others, made as many mistakes as Ryan did but he wasn't Wooly so he was instantly hugely popular. Don't get me wrong. I like Bruno and think he had a good season. I guess it is more that I don't think Ryan was anywhere near as bad as some of you have tended to make out. But as I said BMI is stronger quicker better in the tackle doesn't get turned as easily, much better with the ball. Ryan knows the Prem better and therefore maybe reads the game better as yet and is possibly marginally better aerially. We've seen a decline in Ryan with far more weakness' in his game than we became accustomed to and the return to his game of the diagonal hoof as his stock ball. He's still adequate and will maybe return to his best but if you asked me to choose between the two today I'd favor BMI. I disagree on all points apart from Bruno being better on the ball. Ryan isn't slow and has rarely, if ever, been found wanting in a straight foot race. Bruno is lighter on his feet than Ryan but he's as susceptible on the turn as anyone in our team, particularly on the straight ball over his right shoulder where he was frequently found wanting. Physically, he is nowhere near as imposing as Ryan and the tackling comment in laughable really. Bruno is more of an interceptor than he is a tackler. Regardless, he's a good player who did well for us and if he returns I'll be pleased. At his age, you'd think he will only get better as well...he'll need to.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 7, 2017 17:49:39 GMT
No, I'm replying to people. Why would I not reply when they're talking crap? No you are a priggish bore!That hates to be proven wrong despite being so more often than not.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 17:51:52 GMT
I'm not wrong though. The incompetence is there in black and white. That's your opinion and based on feedback so far, it seems that you're wrong. But you won't man up and admit it. That's why you're stinking up the thread. Not your opinion. That you won't reflect on things. The chief exec is quoted as saying we had a deal. That deal should have been set in stone. The fact it wasn't is ludicrous.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Aug 7, 2017 17:52:18 GMT
But as I said BMI is stronger quicker better in the tackle doesn't get turned as easily, much better with the ball. Ryan knows the Prem better and therefore maybe reads the game better as yet and is possibly marginally better aerially. We've seen a decline in Ryan with far more weakness' in his game than we became accustomed to and the return to his game of the diagonal hoof as his stock ball. He's still adequate and will maybe return to his best but if you asked me to choose between the two today I'd favor BMI. I disagree on all points apart from Bruno being better on the ball. Ryan isn't slow and has rarely, if ever, been found wanting in a straight foot race. Bruno is lighter on his feet than Ryan but he's as susceptible on the turn as anyone in our team, particularly on the straight ball over his right shoulder where he was frequently found wanting. Physically, he is nowhere near as imposing as Ryan and the tackling comment in laughable really. Bruno is more of an interceptor than he is a tackler. Regardless, he's a good player who did well for us and if he returns I'll be pleased. At his age, you'd think he will only get better as well...he'll need to. I agree Bruno is okay but not as a good as some on the thread have suggested. Our weakness left side to the ball over the top last season cost us several times and Bruno was culpable in this. He is also not as strong as he looks in physical battles, Kane and Costa both sorted him last year with real ease. A decent Stoke player but not someone the top sides would be after. I think he will look better on the left of a three
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 17:53:09 GMT
No, I'm replying to people. Why would I not reply when they're talking crap? No you are a priggish bore!That hates to be proven wrong despite being so more often than not. If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 7, 2017 17:59:09 GMT
Of course you can, we did it with Wolly. And if they don't agree to it you don't do the deal. But that wasn't an option because we left signing a crucial player to the last day. Another master stroke Mr Scholes....... The whole deal has been a fuck up. Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. If you've a legally binding option it would be very very stupid to refuse to deal as you would be leaving yourself open to a breach of contract claim. Of all the possible scenarios I see this as the least likely, and again you seem to be ignoring the fact that Stoke stated that they allowed the option to lapse
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 7, 2017 17:59:10 GMT
No you are a priggish bore!That hates to be proven wrong despite being so more often than not. If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. Yes,you are laughable i agree.
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 7, 2017 18:02:14 GMT
Bruno's coming home.... literally as his new gaff awaits him. Still think Bmi will get even better if he has a better lwb than pieters, many times he had to dig erik out of the shit last season
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Post by proudstokie on Aug 7, 2017 18:03:35 GMT
No you are a priggish bore!That hates to be proven wrong despite being so more often than not. If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. Has it not occurred to you that the deal was done on the last day of the transfer window last summer and to push it through on time there was a gentlemans agreement to do a deal. Once the loan was completed and Bruno was off Porto's wage bill it wasn't in Porto's interest to draw it up legally, at which point it was too late for Stole to do anything. You don't know the exact goings on so why can't you just be happy that we have a considerably stronger defence than what we did last season for half the cost of a Michael Keane. Some people are never happy!
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 7, 2017 18:03:56 GMT
I really love this to happen, but I dare not take anything for granted yet! This is the signing I want most to happen, please make it official!!! ! Please elaborate I seem to remember this was announced in the media a month ago as well, suddenly he was on his way to Palace! I want an updated picture where he is holding up a Stoke shirt now before I can relax! Thought Indi was really impressive last season!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:04:54 GMT
I've seen Bruno and Moting together Fuck me my dick is hard. Pics? And I'm not talking about footballers. 🙈
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Post by Will_75 on Aug 7, 2017 18:06:03 GMT
No you are a priggish bore!That hates to be proven wrong despite being so more often than not. If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. OK comic book guy, explain to me using words, why £7.5m for BMI is not a good deal for Stoke City Football Club. You seem to be saying we should have done it sooner for more money, or alternatively, walked away.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 7, 2017 18:06:28 GMT
If he does sign I'm on twitter hunting those Palace fans laughing at Stoke when they thought they'd pinched him
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 7, 2017 18:08:46 GMT
If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. OK comic book guy, explain to me using words, why £7.5m for BMI is not a good deal for Stoke City Football Club. You seem to be saying we should have done it sooner for more money, or alternatively, walked away. The deal was in place for us to sign him for £8 million after the loan spell, quite why we didn't and have took a massive risk by dithering for the sake of £500k is pretty awful, he should have been our player the moment the transfer window opened.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:09:32 GMT
If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. OK comic book guy, explain to me using words, why £7.5m for BMI is not a good deal for Stoke City Football Club. You seem to be saying we should have done it sooner for more money, or alternatively, walked away. The original deal is said to have been for 8m. I'd like to think saving 500k isn't of the utmost importance.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 7, 2017 18:10:09 GMT
If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. OK comic book guy, explain to me using words, why £7.5m for BMI is not a good deal for Stoke City Football Club. You seem to be saying we should have done it sooner for more money, or alternatively, walked away. Not in the habit of defending Bayern Will but I think the point he is making is that it looks like we were adopting a risky strategy here by not exercising the original outcome. Of course the outcome is fantastic but it was risky and could have backfired spectacularly
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 7, 2017 18:12:11 GMT
What's all this "celebrate the deal" bollocks? There is no deal to celebrate yet, not until it's confirmed by the club (or Percy at the Telegraph). Well, the news was broken by Jan van Persie at De Telegraaf.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 7, 2017 18:12:12 GMT
OK comic book guy, explain to me using words, why £7.5m for BMI is not a good deal for Stoke City Football Club. You seem to be saying we should have done it sooner for more money, or alternatively, walked away. The deal was in place for us to sign him for £8 million after the loan spell, quite why we didn't and have took a massive risk by dithering for the sake of £500k is pretty awful, he should have been our player the moment the transfer window opened. It was a gamble and it worked. The release clause was 8.5 million although sky are now reporting the clause was up to 13.4 million with bonuses. Read what you will but saving a potential 1.25 million for any business is nothing to be sniffed at. If this is the case and he signs then the transfer team in my opinion deserve a pat on the back
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 7, 2017 18:14:18 GMT
The deal was in place for us to sign him for £8 million after the loan spell, quite why we didn't and have took a massive risk by dithering for the sake of £500k is pretty awful, he should have been our player the moment the transfer window opened. It was a gamble and it worked. The release clause was 8.5 million although sky are now reporting the clause was up to 13.4 million with bonuses. Read what you will but saving a potential 1.25 million for any business is nothing to be sniffed at. If this is the case and he signs then the transfer team in my opinion deserve a pat on the back I'd have paid the £13 million, that gets you a Ross McCormack these days, it's a steal for a solid young defender like BMI, fannying around for even £1.25 million is pretty small time given the money floating around the game at the moment in my opinion.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Aug 7, 2017 18:14:37 GMT
Porto increased the originally proposed price when we began the process of taking up the option. We did not pull out of the deal, hoping that Porto would be honest and go back to the original price. They continued to refuse to deal at the original price and, in time, the option deadline went past. Negotiations have been going on ever since, culminating in the current situation. Now if you can tell us what YOU would have done differently in the above circumstances, we may become more enlightened. I have done 3 million times That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! FFS here we go again. Give over and get a life.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:16:27 GMT
I have done 3 million times That fee should have been set in stone. It's absolutely ludicrous that it wasn't! FFS here we go again. Give over and get a life. It's true though. That's why so many are getting their back up because they can't say a bad word about the club.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Aug 7, 2017 18:21:07 GMT
You can only compare Bruno to Shawcross as they are now....it would be unfair to compare him to Shawcross 2 or 3 seasons ago....as we didn't know much about Bruno 2 or 3 seasons ago!!! In which case I can't see how BMI is a lesser player than Shawcross. He's stronger, quicker better in the tackle, better with the ball, doesn't get turned as easily. Precisely that!!! 👍
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