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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:21:38 GMT
FFS here we go again. Give over and get a life. It's true though. That's why so many are getting their back up because they can't say a bad word about the club. Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 7, 2017 18:21:49 GMT
It was a gamble and it worked. The release clause was 8.5 million although sky are now reporting the clause was up to 13.4 million with bonuses. Read what you will but saving a potential 1.25 million for any business is nothing to be sniffed at. If this is the case and he signs then the transfer team in my opinion deserve a pat on the back I'd have paid the £13 million, that gets you a Ross McCormack these days, it's a steal for a solid young defender like BMI, fannying around for even £1.25 million is pretty small time given the money floating around the game at the moment in my opinion. It may seem small time but if that million is again reinvested into the youth set up or is invested into a community project say or invested into wages/signing on fee for a player which is potentially out of our reach then you can argue it's money well spent. With regards to McCormack transfer fees aren't necessarily indicative of a players ability. 13 million for McCormack doesn't mean he's a better player than Shaqiri. It depends on how badly a club want a player and how much the other club are willing to sell for. We potentially knew of Brunos desire to join us and used it to our advantage. A gamble yes, but isn't every single transfer that happens in football a gamble of some kind?
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 7, 2017 18:22:37 GMT
If I'm not wrong why would I admit it? We've got people back slapping a deal for a price that we had agreed 12 months ago. But that deal wasn't legally binding. It's laughable. Has it not occurred to you that the deal was done on the last day of the transfer window last summer and to push it through on time there was a gentlemans agreement to do a deal. Once the loan was completed and Bruno was off Porto's wage bill it wasn't in Porto's interest to draw it up legally, at which point it was too late for Stole to do anything. You don't know the exact goings on so why can't you just be happy that we have a considerably stronger defence than what we did last season for half the cost of a Michael Keane. Some people are never happy! Exactly the way I see the situation. A hastily agreed verbal agreement as the transfer window was quickly closing and we needed reinforcements urgently. If it comes off it's a good deal, BMI is not a word beater, but he's decent and a back three of him Shawcross, and Zouma looks solid to me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:24:57 GMT
It's true though. That's why so many are getting their back up because they can't say a bad word about the club. Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic.
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:28:04 GMT
Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic. It's different in the real world
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2017 18:28:11 GMT
It's true though. That's why so many are getting their back up because they can't say a bad word about the club. Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Is it just a formality now Dave?
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Post by ruts66 on Aug 7, 2017 18:30:34 GMT
Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic. Have you ever bought or sold a house or a car...? The other party can fuck you about whether there's an agreement or not. Perhaps Stoke had to wheel in their legal rep. We simply don't know the ins and outs. Try to lose the words, "should" and "shouldn't" from your closed way of thinking and life becomes much less disappointing...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:30:37 GMT
Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic. It's different in the real world It might be. Don't speak about it like alls we had to is get BMI to agree a contract. Which is exactly what they did. And we did a similar deal for Wolly so why not for this one? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player.
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:30:37 GMT
Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Is it just a formality now Dave? Should get done in next few days
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:31:59 GMT
It's different in the real world It might be. Don't speak about it like alls we had to is get BMI to agree a contract. Which is exactly what they did. And we did a similar deal for Wolly so why not for this one? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. How do you know all that,your just making assumptions.
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Post by GoBoks on Aug 7, 2017 18:32:27 GMT
Your making a lot of assumptions reference Bruno,your entitled to your opinion but that's all is an opinion. Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic. "..... We'll be with you every step along the way, but only if you employ the manager I want you to employ, buy the players I want you to buy, refuse to sell the players I don't want you to sell, play the formation I want you to play, select the lineup I want you to select, use the subs I want you to use (at the minute I want you to use them), have the sponsors I want you to have, design the shirt I want you to design, upgrade the stadium the way I think you should upgrade it, charge the ticket prices I want you to charge, play in the style I want you to play, get the results I think you should get and say the things I want you to say in the post match interview. We'll be with you ......
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:34:00 GMT
It might be. Don't speak about it like alls we had to is get BMI to agree a contract. Which is exactly what they did. And we did a similar deal for Wolly so why not for this one? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. How do you know all that,your just making assumptions. Dave, there are quotes in the press from Hughes and Scholes where they have said that. That is not an assumption. Again there were quotes from the club that that was the deal. And the lucky bit is, he hasn't signed yet!
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Post by knype on Aug 7, 2017 18:34:42 GMT
It might be. Don't speak about it like alls we had to is get BMI to agree a contract. Which is exactly what they did. And we did a similar deal for Wolly so why not for this one? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. How do you know all that,your just making assumptions. Has Delph got cold feet about Stoke now Dave? Have we got other exciting midfielders lined up ?
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:40:33 GMT
How do you know all that,your just making assumptions. Has Delph got cold feet about Stoke now Dave? Have we got other exciting midfielders lined up ? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. It's Been handled badly by who ? We got lucky ? How do you know all this?
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Post by luke2u on Aug 7, 2017 18:41:55 GMT
How come this take so long time to confirm? If it's an agreed deal, it's strange they need so much time as he has already been our player. We know him, he knows us, matters must have been discussed before.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 7, 2017 18:42:03 GMT
Has Delph got cold feet about Stoke now Dave? Have we got other exciting midfielders lined up ? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. It's Been handled badly by who ? We got lucky ? How do you know all this? More importantly dave, Delph off or on?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 7, 2017 18:42:05 GMT
Has Delph got cold feet about Stoke now Dave? Have we got other exciting midfielders lined up ? It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. It's Been handled badly by who ? We got lucky ? How do you know all this? If you say you have a deal but it isn't legally binding, I'd say that was badly handled. We haven't yet. 😂
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 7, 2017 18:47:47 GMT
Good news re Eric Dave we should be very decent at set pieces this year. Any chance of another announcement tonight? Heard there's been lots of activity at CW tonight.
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:48:17 GMT
It's been handled badly but we got lucky, which is good as he's a very good player. It's Been handled badly by who ? We got lucky ? How do you know all this? If you say you have a deal but it isn't legally binding, I'd say that was badly handled. We haven't yet. 😂 Your entitled to your opinion
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Post by davesviews on Aug 7, 2017 18:48:45 GMT
Good news re Eric Dave we should be very decent at set pieces this year. Any chance of another announcement tonight? Heard there's been lots of activity at CW tonight. No not tonight
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Post by WhyDelilah on Aug 7, 2017 18:49:13 GMT
If you say you have a deal but it isn't legally binding, I'd say that was badly handled. We haven't yet. 😂 Your entitled to your opinion Any other updates Dave?
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Post by nutterpotter on Aug 7, 2017 18:49:38 GMT
Good news re Eric Dave we should be very decent at set pieces this year. Any chance of another announcement tonight? Heard there's been lots of activity at CW tonight. No not tonight Delph not keen on the move, Dave? Are we working on other midfield targets?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 7, 2017 18:49:46 GMT
Good news re Eric Dave we should be very decent at set pieces this year. Any chance of another announcement tonight? Heard there's been lots of activity at CW tonight. No not tonight Is the 'exciting' midfield option you mentioned yesterday English or non-English?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 7, 2017 18:51:15 GMT
If you say you have a deal but it isn't legally binding, I'd say that was badly handled. We haven't yet. 😂 Your entitled to your opinion Dave how many players have been to CW today?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 7, 2017 18:51:48 GMT
Is the 'exciting' midfield option you mentioned yesterday English or non-English? German my friend.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 7, 2017 18:53:52 GMT
Dave still think it could be 3 in this week ?
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Post by stokeykez on Aug 7, 2017 19:07:25 GMT
Is the 'exciting' midfield option you mentioned yesterday English or non-English? German my friend. Who ya thinking gf?
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Post by kustokie on Aug 7, 2017 20:04:39 GMT
I've been out all day. Is BMI in or out?
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 7, 2017 20:07:27 GMT
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Post by The Full Morrison on Aug 7, 2017 20:20:16 GMT
Of course it is. What isn't is two senior members of the club saying we have a deal agreed to sign him. You'd hope they'd have it tied up so it couldn't change. To not do so is idiotic. "..... We'll be with you every step along the way, but only if you employ the manager I want you to employ, buy the players I want you to buy, refuse to sell the players I don't want you to sell, play the formation I want you to play, select the lineup I want you to select, use the subs I want you to use (at the minute I want you to use them), have the sponsors I want you to have, design the shirt I want you to design, upgrade the stadium the way I think you should upgrade it, charge the ticket prices I want you to charge, play in the style I want you to play, get the results I think you should get and say the things I want you to say in the post match interview. We'll be with you ...... You forgot the bit about the choice of font used in the new seats...
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