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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:24:04 GMT
£23m is a decent fee, let's hope it's done and over with by the end of the week.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 18, 2017 10:26:11 GMT
We definitely need another winger, I've seen some comments expecting Sobhi to just fill the shoes of a man who's carried out attacking threat for 3 seasons.
Won't make pleasant viewing watching Arnie in a rivals colour next season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 10:27:56 GMT
Still contracted for another 2 years and if he plays out of his skin then it doesn't. 😂 I'm Arnie's biggest fan. And I think he's arguably worth £30m. But with all the factors would I take £25m, give Sobhi an extended run in the team and reinvest the money in the team? Yes probably under the circumstances, Arnie's character doesn't bode well for him dusting himself down and forgetting all of this happened. If it does I'll be happy as larry, but I totally get the clubs dilemma as they're hardly queuing round the block for him..... It's definitely a dilemma but it has to be 25m minimum. For now and for the future. We have to show we aren't the pushovers we seem to be when it comes to selling players. I know 23m is close but it just looks shit compared to 25m. Bolasie who is a speed boat with no driver went for 30m last season and Arnie is way better. There was no bidding war there either. We've got to stand firm. I think the club we're selling to matter as well. It invites every other wank middle of the road club to bid the going price for our players. Which again is a bad look.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 18, 2017 10:28:51 GMT
We definitely need another winger, I've seen some comments expecting Sobhi to just fill the shoes of a man who's carried out attacking threat for 3 seasons. Won't make pleasant viewing watching Arnie in a rivals colour next season. If there is one game I'd play Charlie in next season it would be WHU with very specific instructions!!
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Post by metalhead on Jul 18, 2017 10:30:30 GMT
We definitely need another winger, I've seen some comments expecting Sobhi to just fill the shoes of a man who's carried out attacking threat for 3 seasons. Won't make pleasant viewing watching Arnie in a rivals colour next season. If there is one game I'd play Charlie in next season it would be WHU with very specific instructions!! we are better than that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:32:00 GMT
I'm Arnie's biggest fan. And I think he's arguably worth £30m. But with all the factors would I take £25m, give Sobhi an extended run in the team and reinvest the money in the team? Yes probably under the circumstances, Arnie's character doesn't bode well for him dusting himself down and forgetting all of this happened. If it does I'll be happy as larry, but I totally get the clubs dilemma as they're hardly queuing round the block for him..... It's definitely a dilemma but it has to be 25m minimum. For now and for the future. We have to show we aren't the pushovers we seem to be when it comes to selling players. I know 23m is close but it just looks shit compared to 25m. Bolasie who is a speed boat with no driver went for 30m last season and Arnie is way better. There was no bidding war there either. We've got to stand firm. I think the club we're selling to matter as well. It invites every other wank middle of the road club to bid the going price for our players. Which again is a bad look. If it were Everton still interested rather than West Ham we'd have banked £30m and he'd already be playing pre-season games by now.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:32:08 GMT
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Post by philb on Jul 18, 2017 10:32:17 GMT
We definitely need another winger, I've seen some comments expecting Sobhi to just fill the shoes of a man who's carried out attacking threat for 3 seasons. Won't make pleasant viewing watching Arnie in a rivals colour next season. Or SJW for that matter 😉
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Post by philb on Jul 18, 2017 10:35:40 GMT
It's definitely a dilemma but it has to be 25m minimum. For now and for the future. We have to show we aren't the pushovers we seem to be when it comes to selling players. I know 23m is close but it just looks shit compared to 25m. Bolasie who is a speed boat with no driver went for 30m last season and Arnie is way better. There was no bidding war there either. We've got to stand firm. I think the club we're selling to matter as well. It invites every other wank middle of the road club to bid the going price for our players. Which again is a bad look. If it were Everton still interested rather than West Ham we'd have banked £30m and he'd already be playing pre-season games by now..... Think that probably sums up how a lot of top teams view him to be honest, ie not worth the gamble. If it's £23m as suggested I'd snap Wet Shams hand off. Sidewards step for him more money yes ambition NO.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 18, 2017 10:37:16 GMT
There's always a hard luck story that people are happy to buy into with our transfer business isn't there.
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Post by skelman on Jul 18, 2017 10:48:51 GMT
London Evening Standard reporting clubs have agreed £23m and personal terms also agreed
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:50:32 GMT
There's always a hard luck story that people are happy to buy into with our transfer business isn't there. Not just us though is it? Look at Leicester and Mahrez, they were adamant they wanted £50m, only Roma have made a firm offer of £25m and according to reports they'll accept £35m. Reason being they know he doesn't want to play for them anymore, circumstances have changed from 12 months ago so they're taking a pragmatic approach. If Arsenal or a Premier League club suddenly come calling then the dynamics might change.....
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Post by stantheman on Jul 18, 2017 10:51:18 GMT
I still find it surprisingly that this will be a record fee for WHU. This sums up perfectly that it is such a sideways move. Get the deal done ASAP and move on
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 18, 2017 10:54:08 GMT
There's always a hard luck story that people are happy to buy into with our transfer business isn't there. Not just us though is it? Look at Leicester and Mahrez, they were adamant they wanted £50m, only Roma have made a firm offer of £25m and according to reports they'll accept £35m. Reason being they know he doesn't want to play for them anymore, circumstances have changed from 12 months ago so they're taking a pragmatic approach. If Arsenal or a Premier League club suddenly come calling then the dynamics might change..... Leicester have done material inbound business we have not .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 10:55:39 GMT
Not just us though is it? Look at Leicester and Mahrez, they were adamant they wanted £50m, only Roma have made a firm offer of £25m and according to reports they'll accept £35m. Reason being they know he doesn't want to play for them anymore, circumstances have changed from 12 months ago so they're taking a pragmatic approach. If Arsenal or a Premier League club suddenly come calling then the dynamics might change..... Leicester have done material inbound business we have not . Irrelevant to what we're debating here.....
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Post by jamerg on Jul 18, 2017 10:58:30 GMT
I still find it surprisingly that this will be a record fee for WHU. This sums up perfectly that it is such a sideways move. Get the deal done ASAP and move on Yeah - also strange tp think that with some of the players they've has there (Payet, Lanzini, Carroll etc) that Arnie will be their record signing...
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Post by cbwhu on Jul 18, 2017 11:02:34 GMT
I still find it surprisingly that this will be a record fee for WHU. This sums up perfectly that it is such a sideways move. Get the deal done ASAP and move on Yeah - also strange tp think that with some of the players they've has there (Payet, Lanzini, Carroll etc) that Arnie will be their record signing... Payet and Lanzini were hardly know in teh UK when they came for 10m each
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 18, 2017 11:04:14 GMT
Leicester have done material inbound business we have not . Irrelevant to what we're debating here..... Why mention Leicester then our mess is we aren't buying and are selling that makes us unique in the premier league market right now especially as we started from a position of woeful form and few goals and we've sold two of our goal threats without replacing either if we sell arnie , teams that don't score go down and of Right now it's a catastrophic summer and regardless of whether this fee is 20 or 25 we need to spend at least 50 to put it right .
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Post by akstoke93 on Jul 18, 2017 11:06:31 GMT
cyaaaaa arnie - good luck with west ham, not a chance he'll get treated as well as he is with Stoke. Fans 'loved' him, Manager played him every week regardless. Can't see that happening at West Ham..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 11:06:36 GMT
Irrelevant to what we're debating here..... Why mention Leicester then our mess is we aren't buying and are selling that makes us unique in the premier league market right now especially as we started from a position of woeful form and few goals and we've sold two of our goal threats without replacing either if we sell arnie , teams that don't score go down and of Right now it's a catastrophic summer and regardless of whether this fee is 20 or 25 we need to spend at least 50 to put it right . Pretty obvious really benji. I was highlighting the issue they're facing with Mahrez now he's made it clear he wants to move. They valued him at £50m when his stock was high, now it looks like they'll get £35m, that's for a Premier League winner and player of the year I might add......
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 18, 2017 11:08:07 GMT
No doubt some will moan that we will only make a 20m profit on Arnautovic having had 4 of his peak career years out of him as well.
Players are only worth what a buying club will pay and I feel we have probably pushed the Spammers as far as we can go without another club as competition. He cannot stay now so let's get rid and move on.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 18, 2017 11:09:59 GMT
We definitely need another winger, I've seen some comments expecting Sobhi to just fill the shoes of a man who's carried out attacking threat for 3 seasons. Won't make pleasant viewing watching Arnie in a rivals colour next season Arnie has scored 22 goals in 4 seasons and his finishing last year was awful, peaking in the Everton home game but don't forget his penalty at Swansea. I think we have got all we can out of him and a profit of £20 million seems fair
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Jul 18, 2017 11:15:28 GMT
Don't think we hold any cards. The Zonz transfer requests didn't have all the unpleasantness attached to this one. Team Arnie know they are forcing us to sell. He's under contract for the next years and we can name our price as we don't want to sell him. We hold all of the cards and if he doesn't dance to our tune then we fine him. You tell me then how you make him perform when he doesn't want to be here? Doesn't look like you have had the pleasure of hsndling disgruntled employees.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2017 11:16:20 GMT
Irrelevant to what we're debating here..... Why mention Leicester then our mess is we aren't buying and are selling that makes us unique in the premier league market right now especially as we started from a position of woeful form and few goals and we've sold two of our goal threats without replacing either if we sell arnie , teams that don't score go down and of Right now it's a catastrophic summer and regardless of whether this fee is 20 or 25 we need to spend at least 50 to put it right . Nope. It really doesn't. Keep spinning that anti-Stoke yarn though benji.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 18, 2017 11:17:42 GMT
No doubt some will moan that we will only make a 20m profit on Arnautovic having had 4 of his peak career years out of him as well. Players are only worth what a buying club will pay and I feel we have probably pushed the Spammers as far as we can go without another club as competition. He cannot stay now so let's get rid and move on. Aren't you on your way to Birkdale yet?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 18, 2017 11:28:53 GMT
He's under contract for the next years and we can name our price as we don't want to sell him. We hold all of the cards and if he doesn't dance to our tune then we fine him. You tell me then how you make him perform when he doesn't want to be here? Doesn't look like you have had the pleasure of hsndling disgruntled employees. Oh I have!
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 18, 2017 11:29:50 GMT
Can't wait to give him some absolute shit next season. I don't mind so much when the player leaving us is making a clear step up like N'Zonzi to Sevilla, Stein to Chelsea, Griffin to Newcastle when they were good etc. But this is a sideways money motivated move to a team who competes in the same part of the league as us. Time to give him hell.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 18, 2017 11:34:45 GMT
Can't wait to give him some absolute shit next season. I don't mind so much when the player leaving us is making a clear step up like N'Zonzi to Sevilla, Stein to Chelsea, Griffin to Newcastle when they were good etc. But this is a sideways money motivated move to a team who competes in the same part of the league as us. Time to give him hell. Assuming he goes, my guess is the London Stadium will be doing that after a few months, if he doesn't set the place alight, having a record fee on his back.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jul 18, 2017 11:38:01 GMT
Lets sign this Right back Van Der Weil and sell Wet Sham Johnson for £5m as well just to get even more money off the Dildo Twins and Lady Sour Face Brady, their fans were on the radio last night moaning their bag off about the owners not showing any of the real ambition they promised before they moved into that white elephant stadium, really giving it loads about how they were promised a £50m striker and its not going to happen as they won't pay the fee or wages for Hernandez. I can't see them really buzzing about signing Zabaletta on a free and Arnie for £23m, especially when he only bothers to turn up for them 3 in 10 games they will be right on his back.
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Post by bertiestan on Jul 18, 2017 11:38:47 GMT
We paid a small fee for him so we put up with his attitude and gesturing.....if we paid around 23 mil I'd be less understanding I should think....I don't think it will take them long to get on his back.....wait til he's gesturing to fan favorite mark noble.
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