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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 16, 2017 16:35:26 GMT
If or when this happens I will not be applauding him on his return or giving him a warm welcome back, stinks of kavanagh, all over again, West ham, is not showing ambition, which is said to be his main reason for wanting to leave. I wouldn't class signing Arnie as ambition tbh, they'd be getting a good player but is he really a player that will push them to go for 7th in the league?
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Post by themistocles on Jul 16, 2017 16:43:21 GMT
25mil fair deal providing we invest all of it on a replacement from the continent
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jul 16, 2017 16:47:14 GMT
Glad he's going now.
Yes we've lost a very talented player but atleast we don't have a greedy, ungrateful wanker that he is within the dressing room.
Big season for Ramadan now.
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Post by stokieoldboy on Jul 16, 2017 16:51:27 GMT
i hope he goes to west sham, they will soon see the true arnie ,he's always been 30min player out of 90min,over rated, over paid like most footballers, yes he's got a few tricks, and he scores a few goals,good change of pace over a couple of yards, fantastic ball control, and works hard chasing back helping out our defence, those are his good points, now where do i start with his bad points, here we go, cant head a ball, or doesn't like heading the ball, cant run more than 20yards to get past his marker, because he then starts to breath out of his asshole,got no composure what so ever in front of goal, worst deadball taker i have ever witnessed i.e. free kicks, corner kicks, and for a big strong lad, goes to ground far to easily, and stays down like he's been shot, just been honest thats all's if we can prise 25mil out of w /ham we've done a great bit of business.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 16, 2017 16:56:12 GMT
While I'd be disappointed, I'd understand his ambition if he wanted to play for a big club such as Everton, but Wet Sham? Signing on fee and London are the only advantages there.
Don't get the appeal of London, give me Manchester or Liverpool anyday.
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Post by Stokiedokie on Jul 16, 2017 16:56:38 GMT
You could be correct,it's not 50 50 but what I will say that when on that 80 minute mark when he starts going to ground and waving to come off a lot people that are fully behind him then go the other way.Fans are fickle and Now this is the tipping point that fans that have stuck up for him have gone completely the other way.To me I have always supported him ,but to me the club is more to me than he is. He's been my favorite player for a while but I now want to see this deal happen. Getting rid at the height of his value is something I think we should do more often and we have a ready made replacement that needs to play. Shame its to West Ham but it seems like there is no interest from anywhere else. Spot on!
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 16, 2017 16:57:40 GMT
How do we post YouTube videos on here?
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Post by elystokie on Jul 16, 2017 16:57:45 GMT
The more I think about this the more I begin to think that Arnie may not have been the real instigator and could probably've been quite happy staying. His brother seems to control big parts of his life, maybe not just as an agent? Did I read somewhere that he lived with Arnie and his family. If so, Arnie obviously relies on him quite heavily. Stoke for all the critism I believe have managed him carefully, let him enjoy his football and he seems to have made a good impression on people around the Club. I see Muniesa and Bojan as being decent lads and they seem to be two of his best buddies. He's a maverick alright and a little different. It's always a problem having family run your business. Yes, they're out to get you the best deal but themselves also and it's hard to go against I guess if you rely on their input and believe they're looking after you. Nobody likes to fall out with a family member. I really feel that this move could see Arnie flounder again. He'd got a settled life, friends and fans that in the most, loved him. He's quirky and offbeat but for once had some stability which I think he's nodded to in previous interviews.Well, his brother seems to have got him into this and even if deep down he has issues with it, he'll have to go with the flow if he does rely on him a lot.Shame really. He'd talked in the past as Stoke being like a family. He felt wanted and loved I guess. Let's hope his brother gives him lots of support and love if this sees him spiralling out of control and fecking up his career. At least he'll supposedly have a bit more money eh? Yeh, I'd go along with pretty much all of that.
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Post by elystokie on Jul 16, 2017 16:58:36 GMT
How do we post YouTube videos on here? Just copy and paste the address.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 17:00:40 GMT
Glad he's going now. Yes we've lost a very talented player but atleast we don't have a greedy, ungrateful wanker that he is within the dressing room. Big season for Ramadan now. I've honestly seen nothing to suggest Ramadan can replace him and certainly his goals if he goes I'd say we need a winger , a midfielder. Two centre halves and a back up striker some list given our current performance in the market .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 17:06:54 GMT
Aceept it, fuck him off before his venom starts sloshing around the dressing room Be interesting to see how he plays when he's got nothing to play for, living in London on his new massive contract accepting that his chance of European football is in an even worse position than it is now, that's not a dig at West Ham either, they stand as much chance as us at this moment in time so Arnie is hoping that West Ham will give him more exposure with bigger clubs (assuming he wants to even further his playing career), he's moving to a new club, a new area and his temperament is iffy at best, he's going to need time to settle in there too He may find that the grass isn't greener, as soon as he stops being a Stoke player i stop giving a fuck about his career so i hope he tanks it and ends up benched personally appreciate your passion for Stoke Arnie while you were here, even if it was fake What makes you think Arnie would cause trouble in the dressing room? Pete Smith has highlighted the fact that he's popular amongst the rest of the squad. There are plenty of players in our dressing room who've been in a similar situation at other clubs. It's nothing new to them and I dare say most of them don't really care. Did Steven N'zonzi cause problems during the two years he remained at the club after submitting the first of his transfer requests? There was plenty of abuse directed at N'zonzi on this board when he first announced that he wanted us to leave yet he remained and helped us to two of our best seasons since we came up. Absolutely Dave and the player has as much to lose as the club if he causes trouble. A season in and out of the side will damage him a lot. Football moves quickly and clubs will move onto other targets. Clubs aren't queuing now to pay him 100k a week (if that's the figure on offer). 12 months down the line and there won't be many, if any, queuing. West Ham at 100k can and will quickly turn to Watford at 50k. The choice is very much his. I repeat myself again but I hope Stoke stay strong on this and hold out for a fair price, even if it means we keep him past the deadline.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 17:10:32 GMT
What makes you think Arnie would cause trouble in the dressing room? Pete Smith has highlighted the fact that he's popular amongst the rest of the squad. There are plenty of players in our dressing room who've been in a similar situation at other clubs. It's nothing new to them and I dare say most of them don't really care. Did Steven N'zonzi cause problems during the two years he remained at the club after submitting the first of his transfer requests? There was plenty of abuse directed at N'zonzi on this board when he first announced that he wanted us to leave yet he remained and helped us to two of our best seasons since we came up. Absolutely Dave and the player has as much to lose as the club if he causes trouble. A season in and out of the side will damage him a lot. Football moves quickly and clubs will move onto other targets. Clubs aren't queuing now to pay him 100k a week (if that's the figure on offer). 12 months down the line and there won't be many, if any, queuing. West Ham at 100k can and will quickly turn to Watford at 50k. The choice is very much his. I repeat myself again but I hope Stoke stay strong on this and hold out for a fair price, even if it means we keep him past the deadline. Agree
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 16, 2017 17:11:01 GMT
Glad he's going now. Yes we've lost a very talented player but atleast we don't have a greedy, ungrateful wanker that he is within the dressing room. Big season for Ramadan now. I've honestly seen nothing to suggest Ramadan can replace him and certainly his goals if he goes I'd say we need a winger , a midfielder. Two centre halves and a back up striker some list given our current performance in the market . You've seen absolutely "nothing" ?.. so, have you had your eyes closed? I don't think Ramadan is as good as Arnie is currently but to say he's shown nothing is ridiculous. I think you'll be disappointed about the back up striker as well.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 16, 2017 17:13:10 GMT
£30 mil tag according to the sun, That's about right. We paid £2 mil. We should use the snake bastard to get in better more first team quality.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 16, 2017 17:15:47 GMT
Fuck.
Him.
Off.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 17:18:14 GMT
I've honestly seen nothing to suggest Ramadan can replace him and certainly his goals if he goes I'd say we need a winger , a midfielder. Two centre halves and a back up striker some list given our current performance in the market . You've seen absolutely "nothing" ?.. so, have you had your eyes closed? I don't think Ramadan is as good as Arnie is currently but to say he's shown nothing is ridiculous. I think you'll be disappointed about the back up striker as well. Eyes wide open , he has very raw potential but to ask him to carry the role and goals of Arnie is too much , to risk £100m on him and berahino candidly bizarre I know I'll be dissappointed and not just on the striker I'd say winger , striker and one of the centre halves will be missing too I can also see us filling some of those gaps with loans as late as deadline day from the relative discomfort of the bottom three .
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2017 17:19:03 GMT
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 16, 2017 17:21:19 GMT
When they actually decide what a decent bid is
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 16, 2017 17:22:03 GMT
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 16, 2017 17:22:16 GMT
Absolutely Dave and the player has as much to lose as the club if he causes trouble. A season in and out of the side will damage him a lot. Football moves quickly and clubs will move onto other targets. Clubs aren't queuing now to pay him 100k a week (if that's the figure on offer). 12 months down the line and there won't be many, if any, queuing. West Ham at 100k can and will quickly turn to Watford at 50k. The choice is very much his. I repeat myself again but I hope Stoke stay strong on this and hold out for a fair price, even if it means we keep him past the deadline. Agree If he does go for 20M + will you praise Hughes and the transfer team for the investment and excellent return on the player?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 17:22:24 GMT
September £1st would be good. Perhaps after we've a replacement.? Or after they have hart and others on board , Let's hope they think they can bully Mr Coates as I suspect they will meet a very stubborn and formidable adversary
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 16, 2017 17:23:54 GMT
They're going wait and see if we buckle first no doubt and how we handle having a player who doesn't want to be here.
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Post by ethers26 on Jul 16, 2017 17:31:16 GMT
Let him go. This little bastard will take his mantle. 👍🏼
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 17:31:34 GMT
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Post by StoneSCFC on Jul 16, 2017 17:40:43 GMT
Got to sell a few more dildo's and ass plugs to cover his agent fees!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 17:47:42 GMT
It means they haven't got a clue and are trying to drum up interest in readiness for more bullshit on yellow tie day.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 16, 2017 17:48:00 GMT
I think it means Sky sources know nothing and they're covering their own arses in order to avoid yet more embarrassment.
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Post by poethebald on Jul 16, 2017 17:53:02 GMT
As I understand it Arnie has asked for a transfer due to the clubs lack of ambition? Correct me if I'm wrong.....but that's exactly what a great deal of posters have being voicing in the past month or so!
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 16, 2017 17:53:24 GMT
Do you honestly expect us to be happy about it? I'm not happy about it and want him to stay, you do know some times shit happens right, players leave except it for what it is he wants more money and to move hardly unusual. He signed a new 4 year contract that he wants to now tear up when more money is in the offing.He has not shown one shred of loyalty to the club so us as fans will take that as a kick in the bollocks. If you think his mercenary behaviour is acceptable then that's up to you,i can assure you that you are in the minority and rightly so imo.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Jul 16, 2017 17:54:32 GMT
Got to sell a few more dildo's and ass plugs to cover his agent fees!! No they can pay his agent in kind with the dildos and ass plugs.
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