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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 14:51:49 GMT
Crikey that bad hey hang the fucker 😋 Do you honestly expect us to be happy about it? I'm not happy about it and want him to stay, you do know some times shit happens right, players leave except it for what it is he wants more money and to move hardly unusual.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 16, 2017 14:55:43 GMT
Do you honestly expect us to be happy about it? I'm not happy about it and want him to stay, you do know some times shit happens right, players leave except it for what it is he wants more money and to move hardly unusual. Whether it's unusual or not isn't the point. I don't think anyone on here finds it unusual. They're just not happy about it which is how you feel about it.
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 16, 2017 14:56:52 GMT
He'll need to invest in a PR person if he ever intends playing for us in the future. It's a fairly unforgivable act unless he provides evidence for the lack of ambition claim. He and his agent brother are disingenuously chasing the coin. I think it's pretty far beyond that, I hope he gets nothing but vitriol if he plays for us again. His brothers statement shows just what a pair of slimy wankers they both are. They and West Ham were made for each other. So if he stays, we should give abuse to one of our own players? Nah, IF he stays, we get the fuck on with it. For what it's worth, I think he will be gone, in which case, when he comes back with another team, that's the time for vitriol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 15:02:58 GMT
What's all this rubbish about shell suits?
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Post by Davef on Jul 16, 2017 15:03:16 GMT
Why though what exactly has he done wrong ? Used lack of ambition as a excuse and then looks to sign for West Ham Pretty much sums up why most are slightly pissed off Neither Arnautovic nor his brother are quoted anywhere as saying the club lacks ambition are they? That was just a line in an article when the news broke. It might be true or it might be a bullshit line from a journalist trying to add gloss to his story. In the past week we've had Martins Indi arriving here for a medical and signing for Palace from these people so I wouldn't be in a rush to believe what they say. What we can be certain of, as is usually the case in these situations, is that it's all about money.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 15:10:16 GMT
I'm not into Instagram/Twitter and all that other nonsense, but one of my Sons is. He tells me that Arnie is getting mountains of abuse from Stoke fans, and that he's done the unthinkable - he's stopped posting stupid pictures of himself doing stupid things since the West Ham story broke. As supporters we clearly haven't helped our cause here the manager says he wants him to say until we get an offer we can't refuse the abuse is dim witted at best , plus while guilty of woeful positioning but his message remains spot on and has been coming for months and months .
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 16, 2017 15:17:54 GMT
I'm not into Instagram/Twitter and all that other nonsense, but one of my Sons is. He tells me that Arnie is getting mountains of abuse from Stoke fans, and that he's done the unthinkable - he's stopped posting stupid pictures of himself doing stupid things since the West Ham story broke. As supporters we clearly haven't helped our cause here the manager says he wants him to say until we get an offer we can't refuse the abuse is dim witted at best , plus while guilty of woeful positioning but his message remains spot on and has been coming for months and months . Coherent posts have never been your strong point have they? Can someone decipher this please ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 16, 2017 15:22:54 GMT
The only certainty we have is that he doesn't want to be here and his brother is a cunt. They are a pair of greedy arseholes who are willing to undermine a club that has treated them faultlessly for a just few quid more. It's a nothing move for him professionally and I wish him nothing but ill will and his brother worse, they're both a pair of cancerous pricks. I just hope our own feckless staff get the money and replacement that we need but I have no faith whatsoever that they will.
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Post by Praetorian on Jul 16, 2017 15:24:28 GMT
As supporters we clearly haven't helped our cause here the manager says he wants him to say until we get an offer we can't refuse the abuse is dim witted at best , plus while guilty of woeful positioning but his message remains spot on and has been coming for months and months . Coherent posts have never been your strong point have they? Can someone decipher this please ? The supporters haven't helped Hughes, as he clearly wants Arnautovic to stay until Stoke get an offer they feel they can't refuse. The abuse is dim witted and // lost in translation
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 16, 2017 15:27:47 GMT
The only certainty we have is that he doesn't want to be here and his brother is a cunt. They are a pair of greedy arseholes who are willing to undermine a club that has treated them faultlessly for a just few quid more. It's a nothing move for him professionally and I wish him nothing but ill will and his brother worse, they're both a pair of cancerous pricks. I just hope our own feckless staff get the money and replacement that we need but I have no faith whatsoever that they will. If you could only get rid of one, would it be Arnie or TS?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 16, 2017 15:28:54 GMT
The only certainty we have is that he doesn't want to be here and his brother is a cunt. They are a pair of greedy arseholes who are willing to undermine a club that has treated them faultlessly for a just few quid more. It's a nothing move for him professionally and I wish him nothing but ill will and his brother worse, they're both a pair of cancerous pricks. I just hope our own feckless staff get the money and replacement that we need but I have no faith whatsoever that they will. If you could only get rid of one, would it be Arnie or TS? Arnie.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 16, 2017 15:31:18 GMT
The only certainty we have is that he doesn't want to be here and his brother is a cunt. They are a pair of greedy arseholes who are willing to undermine a club that has treated them faultlessly for a just few quid more. It's a nothing move for him professionally and I wish him nothing but ill will and his brother worse, they're both a pair of cancerous pricks. I just hope our own feckless staff get the money and replacement that we need but I have no faith whatsoever that they will. If you could only get rid of one, would it be Arnie or TS? We will notice a difference if one of these two leave. I would let the other one go in a heart beat.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 15:34:24 GMT
The only certainty we have is that he doesn't want to be here and his brother is a cunt. They are a pair of greedy arseholes who are willing to undermine a club that has treated them faultlessly for a just few quid more. It's a nothing move for him professionally and I wish him nothing but ill will and his brother worse, they're both a pair of cancerous pricks. I just hope our own feckless staff get the money and replacement that we need but I have no faith whatsoever that they will. Reality of the modern footballer.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 16, 2017 15:36:08 GMT
Saw a lad earlier with the new away shirt on with Arnautovic on the back, I hope they offer the poor bugger a refund.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 15:37:12 GMT
I'm not into Instagram/Twitter and all that other nonsense, but one of my Sons is. He tells me that Arnie is getting mountains of abuse from Stoke fans, and that he's done the unthinkable - he's stopped posting stupid pictures of himself doing stupid things since the West Ham story broke. Some people need to grow up. Arnie, for one. His brother, for another.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 16, 2017 15:52:59 GMT
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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 16, 2017 15:53:28 GMT
No shock
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 16:01:28 GMT
Im with Mark Hughes on this one
Some people just don't know when they are onto a good thing.
Arnie -Knocking out £70k a week - a big fish in a small to medium sized pond
comfortable whilst not really being under any real pressure to perform week to week,
not having that big club expectancy on his shoulders all the time - just loved for what he is
living in the stockbroker belt in Cheshire just south of and, a stones throw from a really 'happening'
city (Manchester) too
often seen in Hale, Mobberly and Altrincham --all very nice places to socialise
And, now wants to go to the 'smoke' for a really seedy little club run by people who've make their money in pornography and who want to compete with at least 3 clubs in their immediate vicinity who are all bigger, far more successful and, with much greater pedigree in the game
and all the pressure that will inevitably come with that move
i.e. he wont get a minutes fucking peace
a greedy brainless twonk if he goes there
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Post by datguy on Jul 16, 2017 16:03:29 GMT
Came from Rob Dorsett. Signing a new 5-year contract at Stoke, then.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2017 16:08:45 GMT
Usual pinch of salt with Fake Sports News.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 16, 2017 16:11:15 GMT
If Dorsett told me it was daytime I'd have to look out of the window to make sure.
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Post by liamo on Jul 16, 2017 16:12:49 GMT
Aceept it, fuck him off before his venom starts sloshing around the dressing room
Be interesting to see how he plays when he's got nothing to play for, living in London on his new massive contract accepting that his chance of European football is in an even worse position than it is now, that's not a dig at West Ham either, they stand as much chance as us at this moment in time so Arnie is hoping that West Ham will give him more exposure with bigger clubs (assuming he wants to even further his playing career), he's moving to a new club, a new area and his temperament is iffy at best, he's going to need time to settle in there too
He may find that the grass isn't greener, as soon as he stops being a Stoke player i stop giving a fuck about his career so i hope he tanks it and ends up benched personally
appreciate your passion for Stoke Arnie while you were here, even if it was fake
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 16, 2017 16:19:15 GMT
If you could only get rid of one, would it be Arnie or TS? We will notice a difference if one of these two leave. I would let the other one go in a heart beat. Somebody wants one and no other premier league club would touch the other with the preverbial barge pole
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 16, 2017 16:20:18 GMT
Arnie had good season 15/16 scored 11 goals. 3 other seasons including last season following signing his new greatly improved contract he was very patchy scoring 11 goals in those 3 seasons. 20+ million I would take that for a player who can't shoot, sulks, and has one good season in four. Thanks Arnie for wearing the shirt, if you don't want to be here that's fine... so long.
We are stoke.
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Post by Davef on Jul 16, 2017 16:21:13 GMT
Aceept it, fuck him off before his venom starts sloshing around the dressing room Be interesting to see how he plays when he's got nothing to play for, living in London on his new massive contract accepting that his chance of European football is in an even worse position than it is now, that's not a dig at West Ham either, they stand as much chance as us at this moment in time so Arnie is hoping that West Ham will give him more exposure with bigger clubs (assuming he wants to even further his playing career), he's moving to a new club, a new area and his temperament is iffy at best, he's going to need time to settle in there too He may find that the grass isn't greener, as soon as he stops being a Stoke player i stop giving a fuck about his career so i hope he tanks it and ends up benched personally appreciate your passion for Stoke Arnie while you were here, even if it was fake What makes you think Arnie would cause trouble in the dressing room? Pete Smith has highlighted the fact that he's popular amongst the rest of the squad. There are plenty of players in our dressing room who've been in a similar situation at other clubs. It's nothing new to them and I dare say most of them don't really care. Did Steven N'zonzi cause problems during the two years he remained at the club after submitting the first of his transfer requests? There was plenty of abuse directed at N'zonzi on this board when he first announced that he wanted to leave yet he remained and helped us to two of our best seasons since we came up.
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Post by stokieoldboy on Jul 16, 2017 16:25:41 GMT
Aceept it, fuck him off before his venom starts sloshing around the dressing room Be interesting to see how he plays when he's got nothing to play for, living in London on his new massive contract accepting that his chance of European football is in an even worse position than it is now, that's not a dig at West Ham either, they stand as much chance as us at this moment in time so Arnie is hoping that West Ham will give him more exposure with bigger clubs (assuming he wants to even further his playing career), he's moving to a new club, a new area and his temperament is iffy at best, he's going to need time to settle in there too He may find that the grass isn't greener, as soon as he stops being a Stoke player i stop giving a fuck about his career so i hope he tanks it and ends up benched personally appreciate your passion for Stoke Arnie while you were here, even if it was fake
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 16:26:20 GMT
Id still welcome him back with open arms if he admitted he'd screwed up
very much the same for me with Mark Hughes last season
i.e. a bit of honesty aand contrition about all his cocks up and he'd have been fine with me, to continue
as he is doing
Im hoping and praying this is all a horrible mistake - and Arnie is begining to realise what hes in the process of doing
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Post by liamo on Jul 16, 2017 16:28:12 GMT
Aceept it, fuck him off before his venom starts sloshing around the dressing room Be interesting to see how he plays when he's got nothing to play for, living in London on his new massive contract accepting that his chance of European football is in an even worse position than it is now, that's not a dig at West Ham either, they stand as much chance as us at this moment in time so Arnie is hoping that West Ham will give him more exposure with bigger clubs (assuming he wants to even further his playing career), he's moving to a new club, a new area and his temperament is iffy at best, he's going to need time to settle in there too He may find that the grass isn't greener, as soon as he stops being a Stoke player i stop giving a fuck about his career so i hope he tanks it and ends up benched personally appreciate your passion for Stoke Arnie while you were here, even if it was fake What makes you think Arnie would cause trouble in the dressing room? Pete Smith has highlighted the fact that he's popular amongst the rest of the squad. There are plenty of players in our dressing room who've been in a similar situation at other clubs. It's nothing knew to them and I dare say most of them don't really care. Did Steven N'zonzi cause problems during the two years he remained at the club after submitting the first of his transfer requests? There was plenty of abuse directed at N'zonzi on this board when he first announced that he wanted us to leave yet he remained and helped us to two of our best seasons since we came up. A player wanting away and forcing a move to a mid table rival can't be good for anyone, N'zonzi was always very vocal about wanting to play in Europe and he eventually moved to a team competing in Europe (and winning the Europa league), Arnie is forcing a move away to a mid table rival which is definitely a sideways move at best, i can see how that would affect other players Obviously it's just conjecture but then everything on this board is
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 16, 2017 16:31:38 GMT
It would be much more hurtful if he had joined a club like Everton who have shown real intent. West ham are the toilet of premiership London clubs,they are welcome to him for the right price.
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Post by stokief on Jul 16, 2017 16:32:47 GMT
The more I think about this the more I begin to think that Arnie may not have been the real instigator and could probably've been quite happy staying. His brother seems to control big parts of his life, maybe not just as an agent? Did I read somewhere that he lived with Arnie and his family. If so, Arnie obviously relies on him quite heavily. Stoke for all the critism I believe have managed him carefully, let him enjoy his football and he seems to have made a good impression on people around the Club. I see Muniesa and Bojan as being decent lads and they seem to be two of his best buddies. He's a maverick alright and a little different. It's always a problem having family run your business. Yes, they're out to get you the best deal but themselves also and it's hard to go against I guess if you rely on their input and believe they're looking after you. Nobody likes to fall out with a family member. I really feel that this move could see Arnie flounder again. He'd got a settled life, friends and fans that in the most, loved him. He's quirky and offbeat but for once had some stability which I think he's nodded to in previous interviews.Well, his brother seems to have got him into this and even if deep down he has issues with it, he'll have to go with the flow if he does rely on him a lot.Shame really. He'd talked in the past as Stoke being like a family. He felt wanted and loved I guess. Let's hope his brother gives him lots of support and love if this sees him spiralling out of control and fecking up his career. At least he'll supposedly have a bit more money eh?
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