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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 10, 2017 15:02:05 GMT
Gray isn't playing every week though? Which is why he might be more amenable to moving. Why would he go for more than Arnie? Do Everton still want him? For me, that'd be the biggest obstacle. Absolutely - though you'd hope the offer of more game time would swing it.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jul 10, 2017 15:02:31 GMT
If we want to be the new Southampton, buy cheap and sell expensive and then reinvest in new players, added to a good youth policy, here is our chance. By God, if we do sell, every last penny needs to be spent on squad strengthening - Ramadan is a ready made replacement, but the funds need to be used for central midfield and central defence. Southampton seem to have an effective recruitment strategy though, whereas I imagine our transfer team are on the blower to Stewart Downing's agent as we speak*!
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Post by warringtonstokie on Jul 10, 2017 15:02:56 GMT
Surprised it's taken this long. The whole club stinks of a lack of ambition and I can't really blame any of the big players if they decide to leave. All comes down to the management team imo, Arnautovic was obviously told a load of bullshit when he signed his new contract last summer.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 10, 2017 15:03:04 GMT
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Post by stokie1130 on Jul 10, 2017 15:03:08 GMT
West ham fucking West ham, he can fuck right off them of that's true, CL side then yea but West ham, fucking hate them cunts
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 15:03:31 GMT
Do Everton still want him? For me, that'd be the biggest obstacle. Absolutely - though you'd hope the offer of more game time would swing it. If he goes, don't we need to let Ramadan sink or swim though? With Verlinden taking his role as next-in-line. Then splash the money elsehere?
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Post by Biblical on Jul 10, 2017 15:03:41 GMT
It says a lot that just 12 months after signing a 4-year deal and declaring his love for the club that he's now handing in a transfer request.
I'll be absolutely gutted if he goes.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:03:56 GMT
We should never have got rid of Cresswell grrrr
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Post by block29cb on Jul 10, 2017 15:04:12 GMT
Sobhi looks like he's going to be a talent at some point but let's face it he's not at arnies abilty.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jul 10, 2017 15:04:15 GMT
We'll probably go for Chadli now he's been shown to have no TP DNA Or Konoplyanka if LMH goes back in.........................shiiittteee this is depressing!
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Post by metalhead on Jul 10, 2017 15:04:18 GMT
I expect Everton will re-enter the fray now as well, with the Lukaku money soon to bolster their kitty. What we need is a good bidding war to push up the fee. If West Ham and Everton want to duke it out for his signature, that's fine with me. Nobody is bigger than the club. Arnie is by far one of my favourite players, but if his hearts not in it, then thanks pal, but t'ra. I said the same about N'Zonzi.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 10, 2017 15:04:50 GMT
Absolutely - though you'd hope the offer of more game time would swing it. If he goes, don't we need to let Ramadan sink or swim though? With Verlinden taking his role as next-in-line. Then splash the money elsehere? That's an awful lot of pressure to heap on a bloke only just out of his teens Grapey?
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Post by Waggy on Jul 10, 2017 15:05:04 GMT
Absolutely - though you'd hope the offer of more game time would swing it. If he goes, don't we need to let Ramadan sink or swim though? With Verlinden taking his role as next-in-line. Then splash the money elsehere? [br Hear hear great news we will be better after this. Bring on the new season
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jul 10, 2017 15:05:11 GMT
And you all laughed at me for being realistic about this. Now I'm laughing at all of you.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Jul 10, 2017 15:05:17 GMT
Fucking hate Mondays me ...
Straight swap for Barkley then and I'll deal with it
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 10, 2017 15:05:50 GMT
I expect Everton will re-enter the fray now as well, with the Lukaku money soon to bolster their kitty. What we need is a good bidding war to push up the fee. If West Ham and Everton want to duke it out for his signature, that's fine with me. Nobody is bigger than the club. Arnie is by far one of my favourite players, but if his hearts not in it, then thanks pal, but t'ra. I said the same about N'Zonzi. N'Zonzi left to win things, doesn't look like Arnie is doing the same if he goes to West Ham.
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Jul 10, 2017 15:05:55 GMT
Begs the question, how on Earth has this got out to the press? Cos his agent brother leaked it.
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Post by mouseykanga2 on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:01 GMT
Anybody wants to apologise ? Told you all weeks ago that Arnie and shaqiri will leave because we have no ambition of going forward. One down, shaqiri to go.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:02 GMT
It says a lot that just 12 months after signing a 4-year deal and declaring his love for the club that he's now handing in a transfer request. I'll be absolutely gutted if he goes. Which part is depressing? You think he's lied or the fact his heart has changed so soon after? Ultimately, he's bang on that we've shown no ambition. If Arnie really does care about the club, and all he's seen is us signing a 33 year old midfielder on a free, then it's hardly the kind of ambition you want from your team, is it?
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:06 GMT
Nein, Nein, Nein!!!!!!!
Not a happy German Stokie..... and this is not against the player. He has had his head turned (it happens all the time.. franklin to Colombia, Matthews to Blackpool) and it is the shysters from London who have done it. I remember that Arnie did mention something about the 'plans' that Stoke had for pushing on but it seems that it is not happening. Could this be a case of a TP style strop where we are building for the longer term top flight future rather than the now......? (Academy players starting to come through rather than out right buying?)
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:29 GMT
Sobhi looks like he's going to be a talent at some point but let's face it he's not at arnies abilty. Agreed. If he'd had a bit more game time then he'd be more of a known quantity too, but as it stands it's difficult to know whether you can hang your hat on him or not.
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Post by haway on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:35 GMT
It says a lot that just 12 months after signing a 4-year deal and declaring his love for the club that he's now handing in a transfer request. I'll be absolutely gutted if he goes. Shit happens mate. Loyalty is a rarity in football, especially at premier league level for foreigners.
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Post by fca47 on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:47 GMT
PSG and Juventus I could understand but West Ham, must be one of the first two. West Ham have no realistic ambitions of finishing above seventh. And anyone wanting to live in the London area at the moment wants their head examining, out of the three you would think Italy would be the most appealing , close to home and more pleasant place to live.
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Post by stokie23 on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:48 GMT
Can't be bothered reading through the pages of comments but my take.. good riddance to him..
Turns up 1 in 6
Bad attitude
Keeping the real star out of the team - Ramadam
We will make a shit load of money on him as well, bet we sell him for 3/4 times what we bought him for !
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:50 GMT
Absolutely - though you'd hope the offer of more game time would swing it. If he goes, don't we need to let Ramadan sink or swim though? With Verlinden taking his role as next-in-line. Then splash the money elsehere? I'm pretty sure that's what the club are thinking. Given Arnie's inclusion in the travelling party, are we to assume that Verlinden's promotion wasn't a pre-emptive move?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:06:50 GMT
And you all laughed at me for being realistic about this. Now I'm laughing at all of you. You're weird.....
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 10, 2017 15:07:16 GMT
And you all laughed at me for being realistic about this. Now I'm laughing at all of you. .. your notifications are about to go through the roof, something you wanted no doubt.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 15:07:31 GMT
If he goes, don't we need to let Ramadan sink or swim though? With Verlinden taking his role as next-in-line. Then splash the money elsehere? That's an awful lot of pressure to heap on a bloke only just out of his teens Grapey? Yeah - it's a fine balancing act. But if we bring in another front-line wide player who expects to start every game, Sobhi is going to still be in a position where he's struggling for minutes. Tricky one to judge.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 10, 2017 15:08:02 GMT
If your reaction to this is "oh goodie, I can tell some lads on the internet I was right!" then you really need to have a look at yourself.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 10, 2017 15:08:26 GMT
Fuck me. Lose him and we are in the shit Why?
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