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Post by thebet365 on Jul 11, 2017 12:29:10 GMT
Surely at his age this will be the last chance he gets to move to a big club and play Champions League football, why the fuck does he want to go to West Ham, another club happy just to make up the numbers? Wasn't Payet 28 when they signed him ? Similar positions so he's probably hoping he can have a wonder season like Payet did there.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2017 12:30:39 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy Why do you think the Coates family still employs Tony Scholes? I've absolutely no idea , but I'm sure they would tell you successful as they are they aren't infallible
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 11, 2017 12:32:07 GMT
having an agenda against Scholes is one thing, completely ignoring the facts to kick him in the nuts is another! Its fuck all about Stoke, we gave him what he wanted 12 months ago, this is simply about the greed of two brothers nothing more nothing less! Oh and yes Jack will do the same next year but he will do it for different reasons, real ambition fact! Perhaps he's on about the ambition thing, and we promised at the time that we had ambition to get into Europe again or something and that why he signed the new contract. Obviously we look farther away from that then we did 12 months ago. Regardless, if he doesn't want to play for us anymore then ta ta....👋 Possibly mate and we probably will never know but to me it looks like its driven by £££
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Post by 99problems on Jul 11, 2017 12:33:39 GMT
Sobhi left , Shaq right , Bojan centre with berahino up top. ' This looks ok. It stings cuz arnie is my favourite player, but its starting to look likely that that's that... As I posted earlier Shaq on the right doesn't happen very often does it. We are really down to two young uns out wide in effect. Very dodgy ground if you ask me. A goal scoring wide player needed ASAP and Arnie stays until we have that player in place. Yarmolenko for me.This should have been done before it was leaked as well as price will now go up for replacement. I get what your saying, where does Sobhi feature in your thoughts. I think it may just be possible we acquired young Ramadan to fill just this spot, and in truth he has the talent. He deserved to play. Move Shaq central and get a right winger then? But that leaves Bojan out, a player who we all want to succeed.... It's a conundrum to be sure. I think Yarmalenko is a good player, but we've had the run around before.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 11, 2017 12:33:54 GMT
Surely at his age this will be the last chance he gets to move to a big club and play Champions League football, why the fuck does he want to go to West Ham, another club happy just to make up the numbers? Wasn't Payet 28 when they signed him ? Similar positions so he's probably hoping he can have a wonder season like Payet did there. He's already in the Premier League though and on show to the world every week, it would be strange if he'd move to West Ham just to use them as a stepping stone.
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Post by skelman on Jul 11, 2017 12:46:44 GMT
Why are we bothering to play someone in pre-season who no longer wants to wear he shirt?
We should be blooding those that want to play and shipping Arnie out as soon as is reasonably possible.
Don't take it so personally. He is a Stoke player until we sell him. It is in both our interests for him to be fit and in form. If we want Arnie to stay (I know I do) then we need to resolve whatever issue he has that has caused this to happ Is that, resolve the issue on top of the £4m a year contract that he and his twat of a brother negotiated and Arnautovic signed last summer! Tapping up works both ways. Brother probably thinks £15m is more than fair because they've already been offered a big 'signing on fee' which is separate to the transfer fee. Scum bags both of them
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 11, 2017 12:55:06 GMT
Look at him the fucking smarmy shiny headed dingleberry. I could quite happily punch the fuck out of that face until my arm was a bloody stump, and then I'd switch to the other arm.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 11, 2017 13:00:56 GMT
Look at him the fucking smarmy shiny headed dingleberry. I could quite happily punch the fuck out of that face until my arm was a bloody stump, and then I'd switch to the other arm. Beware all players who have members of their family as agents - hangers on with no talent of their own who want to make money out of their far more celebrated family member. I am not a big fan of agents personally (Mr Mellor accepted!!), but at least properly trained and licensed ones who do it as an actual career choice generally have some modicum of professionalism. Dads and brothers do it out of their own self interest, want part of the limelight and are generally complete and utter tools.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 11, 2017 13:02:11 GMT
His Brother hasn't got much of a clue or a semblance of reality has he? His brother is after double bubble nice fee for the new contract and now another fee for moving him on.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 11, 2017 13:02:35 GMT
Aren't we fickle fuckers?!
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Jul 11, 2017 13:07:42 GMT
His brother accusing the club of bullshitting now. This is all gonna get messy!
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 11, 2017 13:07:52 GMT
The club should set a fee whichn is in line with the current market. If any one offered that fee we should take it, if no offers come in he should be made to honour the very generous contract he negotiated last year.
Offers should start at £35M.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 11, 2017 13:08:16 GMT
Look at him the fucking smarmy shiny headed dingleberry. I could quite happily punch the fuck out of that face until my arm was a bloody stump, and then I'd switch to the other arm. Beware all players who have members of their family as agents - hangers on with no talent of their own who want to make money out of their far more celebrated family member. I am not a big fan of agents personally (Mr Mellor accepted!!), but at least properly trained and licensed ones who do it as an actual career choice generally have some modicum of professionalism. Dads and brothers do it out of their own self interest, want part of the limelight and are generally complete and utter tools. Bald, hairy faced cunt!
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 11, 2017 13:08:51 GMT
4 years left on bis contract? average 3m a year wages?
15m under valuation by west ham?
we can afford to put him in the reserves for a year (especially bad for him, before a WC year) then sell him for 15m after. We should stand firm on this
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Post by reddipotter on Jul 11, 2017 13:10:42 GMT
Aren't we fickle fuckers?! Not really. It's Arnie who has moved the goalposts, not the fans.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 11, 2017 13:23:12 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think  it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy "Greedy counts" blood sucking Austrians! "Hughes...come October he will be the fall guy" That you officially launching your annual relegation campaign, daft Benj
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 11, 2017 13:25:42 GMT
Beware all players who have members of their family as agents - hangers on with no talent of their own who want to make money out of their far more celebrated family member. I am not a big fan of agents personally (Mr Mellor accepted!!), but at least properly trained and licensed ones who do it as an actual career choice generally have some modicum of professionalism. Dads and brothers do it out of their own self interest, want part of the limelight and are generally complete and utter tools. Bald, hairy faced cunt! Leave me out of it.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 11, 2017 13:27:34 GMT
Aren't we fickle fuckers?! Not really. It's Arnie who has moved the goalposts, not the fans. True. It's just how they go from hero to zero in the blink of an eye that I find strangely amusing. I've already moved on.........
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 11, 2017 13:29:35 GMT
Starting to go dirty with his agent going public and bad mouthing Stoke.
I repeat, I think Arni is making a huge mistake. There is no way the London Stadium 57,000 crowd will put up with his mardiness, sulking, fits of temper, etc. They will soon be on his back and it could all go very pear-shaped for him. He is being very badly advised.
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Post by tqstokie on Jul 11, 2017 13:29:51 GMT
Offers Should start at £35 million! Words like cloud and cuckoo spring to mind. We will be lucky to get much more than the £15 million supposedly offered.
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Post by Northy on Jul 11, 2017 13:31:51 GMT
His Brother hasn't got much of a clue or a semblance of reality has he? His brother is after double bubble nice fee for the new contract and now another fee for moving him on. perhaps we should demand 75% of the agents fee back, as only 25% of his clients contract has been fulfilled ?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 11, 2017 13:34:43 GMT
4 years left on bis contract? average 3m a year wages? 15m under valuation by west ham? we can afford to put him in the reserves for a year (especially bad for him, before a WC year) then sell him for 15m after. We should stand firm on this We could do this but he's got massive sulk going on strike written all over him. Modern footballers just down tools like they did against Mourinho and Rainieri. If the transfer request is now public it's time to get rid. Bidding starts North of 20 million and a non play against us clause if he stays in the Prem. Ramadan steps up and is told it's his shirt to lose. I think he can manage. Are Chadli and Gray really for sale?
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 11, 2017 13:37:03 GMT
Look at him the fucking smarmy shiny headed dingleberry. I could quite happily punch the fuck out of that face until my arm was a bloody stump, and then I'd switch to the other arm. So this is how Stephen Ireland repays us for his new deal
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2017 13:38:45 GMT
Offers Should start at £35 million! Words like cloud and cuckoo spring to mind. We will be lucky to get much more than the £15 million supposedly offered. Why would we only get £15m? That seems to be the entry point fee for very average players these days and Arnie is a lot more than that.
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 11, 2017 13:40:04 GMT
Why would he fake an injury in the 45th minute when he wasn't playing in the 2nd half anyway? Could it be to avoid playing again on this tour, to avoid getting a real injury, thereby scuppering any move? Who knows where Arnie is concerned, he can be a bit of a drama Queen. It was noticeable that as Arn was thrashing around like a beached cod, not one of our players bothered to go and check on him.
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Post by Mendicant on Jul 11, 2017 13:41:52 GMT
The welcoming party is ready for your Marko, on your way I sometimes wonder if Karen Brady isn't in fact Peschisolido in drag. You don't often see them in public together.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 11, 2017 13:42:18 GMT
Could it be to avoid playing again on this tour, to avoid getting a real injury, thereby scuppering any move? Who knows where Arnie is concerned, he can be a bit of a drama Queen. It was noticeable that as Arn was thrashing around like a beached cod, not one of our players bothered to go and check on him. Sol Campbell likes this.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 11, 2017 13:44:26 GMT
Well someone is not being truthful. The LES this afternoon is adamant WHU are about to go back in with an improved offer
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Post by kjpt140v on Jul 11, 2017 13:46:36 GMT
"we spunked our transfer budget on a completely unknown" Our transfer budget? He cost us a £1m. Re: the Shawcross pre-season purchase, £1million is loose change nowadays, I'll grant you, but back then it was Stoke's all time record transfer fee paid, so yes it was a big splurge! And for a complete unknown who'd made zero appearances for Man Utd; so there was a lot of doom and gloom about our prospects that year. (A similar analogy for today would be Hughes being given £20 million for a player, and spending it on Man Utd reserve RoShaun Williams... Can you imagine the wrist-slashing that that would generate online?!?) Anyway, thankfully our (old) management knew better than us eternally pessimistic fans back then, and our pre-season gloom was all for nowt. So even if the lovable daft apeth that is Arnie does leave, I'll be assuming that our current management has confidence in our kiddies' abilities to replace him. I won't be binge-guzzling car exhaust fumes in my garage just yet. It's a lovely characteristic You have, going way over the top.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 11, 2017 13:50:07 GMT
4 years left on bis contract? average 3m a year wages? 15m under valuation by west ham? we can afford to put him in the reserves for a year (especially bad for him, before a WC year) then sell him for 15m after. We should stand firm on this We could do this but he's got massive sulk going on strike written all over him. Modern footballers just down tools like they did against Mourinho and Rainieri. If the transfer request is now public it's time to get rid. Bidding starts North of 20 million and a non play against us clause if he stays in the Prem. Ramadan steps up and is told it's his shirt to lose. I think he can manage. Are Chadli and Gray really for sale? I'd like either of them, Rog. Gone are the days of Ian Callaghan and Denis Smith, jumpers for goal posts and all that, but we can't let players take the piss. We have to put our foot down with a firm hand.
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