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Post by LDE76 on Jul 11, 2017 12:10:58 GMT
Only a complete imbecile would blame the club for this. Oh, hang on...
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Post by 99problems on Jul 11, 2017 12:11:21 GMT
Not that I see much allure in pulling ones pisser, just to go fucking West Ham... I like billic, but it's not like they're fucking streets ahead of us... seems odd. Maybe he'll go PSG?
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 11, 2017 12:11:53 GMT
We need to make a decision on our transfer philosophy full stop. Do we want to retain an unwilling player on top wages, who will likely decrease in value? Taking personalities aside we should have the same approach regardless, so the question is what wound we pay for him? I don't think many would be too impressed if we forked out 20 million plus for him, so arguably that would be good business for us if we got in and around that figure whilst freeing up wages for new players. As frustrating as player power is, I see no value in forcing any player to stay whilst losing sale value and creating an untenable atmosphere - the club should have learnt their lesson on this by now. Pointless, unprofessional and more importantly financially irresponsible. Fuck that. I hope we make an example of him. Pay our price or you go fucking no where. Perhaps his lovely agent will donate his fee towards the transfer fee or maybe Marco will donate his signing on fee
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Jul 11, 2017 12:12:08 GMT
There is no doubting that Arnie is a talented player. BUT I have never understood how or why, when it comes to tapping the ball into the net, his talents seem to desert him. Yes ok, I know he has scored good goals, but bloody hell, he has missed some (a lot of) sitters. Maybe the problem was that "tapping it in" wasn't on his agenda - he wanted to burst the net. Read yesterday that he had the joint 3rd most clear cut chances in the league last season with 12.
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Post by bhp on Jul 11, 2017 12:13:02 GMT
Whats Yarmalenko up to these days?. 27, still at Kiev, good goalscoring record.
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Post by philb on Jul 11, 2017 12:13:56 GMT
"I hope the club with its actions does not stand in his way as they received an offer which is more than correct, compared to what Stoke paid for Marko." Is his brother a bit thick, it has no relevance how much we paid for him, we want what the market dictates is his current value. Thought that myself. We paid £3m for him and now we've had an offer that's five times that so we should accept it! What a tool. Anyway he's injured for now so won't be going anywhere for a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 12:15:19 GMT
"I hope the club with its actions does not stand in his way as they received an offer which is more than correct, compared to what Stoke paid for Marko." Is his brother a bit thick, it has no relevance how much we paid for him, we want what the market dictates is his current value. Thought that myself. We paid £3m for him and now we've had an offer that's five times that so we should accept it! What a tool. Anyway he's injured for now so won't be going anywhere for a bit. He's not injured, he's fine.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2017 12:15:26 GMT
Only a complete imbecile would blame the club for this. Oh, hang on... I told you it was coming last week , only a complete imbecile couldn't see it , Butland was on the BBC feeling the market last week is he a count too ? totally of our own making
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2017 12:16:01 GMT
His Brother hasn't got much of a clue or a semblance of reality has he?
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 11, 2017 12:16:19 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think  it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy having an agenda against Scholes is one thing, completely ignoring the facts to kick him in the nuts is another! Its fuck all about Stoke, we gave him what he wanted 12 months ago, this is simply about the greed of two brothers nothing more nothing less! Oh and yes Jack will do the same next year but he will do it for different reasons, real ambition fact!
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jul 11, 2017 12:16:59 GMT
Those quotes really are ridiculous.
He's contracted to the club. The club pay him a very handsome wage too and they will dictate his worth and whether they want to sell.
The agent doesn't dictate what an acceptable fee is. What a c**t.
This sounds like it could all end in tears.
The spiteful side of me hopes we make him rot instead of selling to a rival. If a big club comes in, it's a different matter. But fucking west ham?!
In reality, we'll probably accept 20m and move him on.
Sorry state of affairs.
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 11, 2017 12:17:04 GMT
What is this thing about the club not revealing something that his brother is banging on about - a release clause?
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Post by philb on Jul 11, 2017 12:17:37 GMT
Thought that myself. We paid £3m for him and now we've had an offer that's five times that so we should accept it! What a tool. Anyway he's injured for now so won't be going anywhere for a bit. He's not injured, he's fine. Oh sorry. Just read on Sky Sports that he 'faced a spell on the sidelines' with the injury he sustained to his knee last night. Sky Sports must be wrong then.
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Post by datguy on Jul 11, 2017 12:18:01 GMT
"I hope the club with its actions does not stand in his way as they received an offer which is more than correct, compared to what Stoke paid for Marko." Is his brother a bit thick, it has no relevance how much we paid for him, we want what the market dictates is his current value. Thought that myself. We paid £3m for him and now we've had an offer that's five times that so we should accept it! What a tool. Anyway he's injured for now so won't be going anywhere for a bit.Pff he's completely fine. Faked an injury when he had a whole 2 more minutes to play.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 11, 2017 12:18:39 GMT
Only a complete imbecile would blame the club for this. Oh, hang on... I told you it was coming last week , only a complete imbecile couldn't see it , Butland was on the BBC feeling the market last week is he a count too ? totally of our own making Your claims of victory ring as true as Saddam Hussain's in 1990. Truly pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2017 12:19:40 GMT
He's not injured, he's fine. Oh sorry. Just read on Sky Sports that he 'faced a spell on the sidelines' with the injury he sustained to his knee last night. Sky Sports must be wrong then. He was walking fine after the game and Hughes confirmed he was ok.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 11, 2017 12:19:47 GMT
The welcoming party is ready for your Marko, on your way
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Post by Northy on Jul 11, 2017 12:20:58 GMT
Whats Yarmalenko up to these days?. playing on the same wing Shaq does for Stoke but in Kiev
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2017 12:21:06 GMT
Only a complete imbecile would blame the club for this. Oh, hang on... I told you it was coming last week , only a complete imbecile couldn't see it , Butland was on the BBC feeling the market last week is he a count too ?  totally of our own making Count Butland? At least he's better with crosses than his fellow Count, Dracula.
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Post by liamo on Jul 11, 2017 12:21:30 GMT
What is this thing about the club not revealing something that his brother is banging on about - a release clause? I'm guessing that when he signed there was a gentleman's agreement of sorts that we wouldn't stand in his way when the time comes for him to leave... Also that the offer was more than £15m maybe I just don't think we as a club assumed he'd get his panties in a knot over a rejected bid from West Ham, probably assuming that he'd only want to leave for an upgrade in Europe
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Post by philb on Jul 11, 2017 12:21:45 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think  it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy having an agenda against Scholes is one thing, completely ignoring the facts to kick him in the nuts is another! Its fuck all about Stoke, we gave him what he wanted 12 months ago, this is simply about the greed of two brothers nothing more nothing less! Oh and yes Jack will do the same next year but he will do it for different reasons, real ambition fact! Perhaps he's on about the ambition thing, and we promised at the time that we had ambition to get into Europe again or something and that why he signed the new contract. Obviously we look farther away from that then we did 12 months ago. Regardless, if he doesn't want to play for us anymore then ta ta....👋
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 11, 2017 12:22:07 GMT
Surely at his age this will be the last chance he gets to move to a big club and play Champions League football, why the fuck does he want to go to West Ham, another club happy just to make up the numbers?
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Post by stokecitydom on Jul 11, 2017 12:22:43 GMT
It will be one hell of an atmosphere if Arnautovic joins West Ham.
I've loved watching Arnautovic, but the way he is engineering a move is going to taint his stoke career.
This isn't going to end well.
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Post by george2again on Jul 11, 2017 12:22:49 GMT
Sobhi left , Shaq right , Bojan centre with berahino up top. ' This looks ok. It stings cuz arnie is my favourite player, but its starting to look likely that that's that... As I posted earlier Shaq on the right doesn't happen very often does it. We are really down to two young uns out wide in effect. Very dodgy ground if you ask me. A goal scoring wide player needed ASAP and Arnie stays until we have that player in place. Yarmolenko for me.This should have been done before it was leaked as well as price will now go up for replacement.
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Jul 11, 2017 12:25:17 GMT
Not that I see much allure in pulling ones pisser, just to go fucking West Ham... I like billic, but it's not like they're fucking streets ahead of us... seems odd. Maybe he'll go PSG? That is just it. They aren't ahead of us in the slightest. If you compare the respective best starting elevens of ourselves and west ham, they are worse (in my opinion) Butland Johnson Shawcross Muniesa Pieters Fletcher Imbula Shaqiri Bojan Arnautovic Berahino Compared with Randolph Antonio Reid Ogbonna Cresswell Obiang Kouyaté Feghouli Lanzini Snodgrass Carroll Of the west ham line up, 3 (maybe 4) would get into the Stoke team. Antonio, one of Reid or ogbonna, cresswell and one of obiang or kouyaté.
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Post by Davef on Jul 11, 2017 12:25:52 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy Why do you think the Coates family still employs Tony Scholes?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 11, 2017 12:27:58 GMT
It will be one hell of an atmosphere if Arnautovic joins West Ham. I've loved watching Arnautovic, but the way he is engineering a move is going to taint his stoke career. This isn't going to end well. Toxic, more hate than Danny Rose I'd imagine if things carry on.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jul 11, 2017 12:28:16 GMT
The welcoming party is ready for your Marko, on your way Wot an orrible banch o fackin cants.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 11, 2017 12:28:20 GMT
Ridiculous abuse of the player , we have by our own inactivity left all the doors open and the windows and put a sign outside saying help,yourself and now wonder why somebody is in the house looking at the jewellery . All this bile needs to be directed at the bloke running our commercial strategy which has been totslly out of kilter with the market and our recent performances , any other CEO would have been gone for such grosss misjudgement if he goes he goes with Many thanks and Walters the same and Glen , Butland and Shaq won't be far behind and I think it's a reasonable judgement they can't all be greedy counts , I feel for Hughes stuck with a totally untenable strategy and buffoons running it and of course come October he will be the fall guy Why do you think the Coates family still employs Tony Scholes? Same reason they employed Jez Moxey for years? They're not averse from making some terrible decisions?
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Post by skelman on Jul 11, 2017 12:28:53 GMT
Just watched the video of his *injury* on Sky Sports. What a faker. Why would he fake an injury in the 45th minute when he wasn't playing in the 2nd half anyway? Because Arnie loves to be the CENTRE OF ATTENTION
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