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Post by StokieNath on Jul 20, 2017 21:04:48 GMT
Friday Arnie leaves. Bruno, delph and Zouma announced straight after.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2017 21:15:24 GMT
Paying Arnie £90k-a-week+ until he's 33 doesn't sound a great idea.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 20, 2017 21:17:36 GMT
If that was on the table, you can almost see why he's kicked up a fuss and made himself look like a shit
Maybe an extra £750k-a-year and 2 more years on silly money past his peak years
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Post by aldershotstoke on Jul 20, 2017 21:20:18 GMT
Not sure the length of contract means anything whatsoever to Arnie and his leech brother. No doubt he'll leave next year when West Ham haven't shown any ambition by finishing mid table again...
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Post by liamo on Jul 20, 2017 21:25:34 GMT
Not sure the length of contract means anything whatsoever to Arnie and his leech brother. No doubt he'll leave next year when West Ham haven't shown any ambition by finishing mid table again... Nah, their fans will be the bestest ever and he'll love them loads, especially if he has a mediocre season
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Post by barcaontrent on Jul 20, 2017 21:26:03 GMT
Highest paid player ? Shows you what the move was about....££££ 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍
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Post by cozmick on Jul 20, 2017 21:28:44 GMT
Marko Arnautovic you complete cunt.
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Post by mattface on Jul 20, 2017 21:59:34 GMT
Highest paid player ? Shows you what the move was about....££££ 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍 Until Hernandez signs for £160k a week rumoured. Can understand why it's taking a while. £90k you say but he's on more - let's talk about this shall we
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 20, 2017 22:08:56 GMT
I'd advise everyone to steer clear of the comment section on SL&P facebook. I know we have some doom and gloom on here but christ. Anyone would think we've just been relegated.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 20, 2017 22:13:02 GMT
Got no real issue with Arnie as he's been a diamond for what we spent on him. His sponging gloryhole of a brother, on the other hand, can suck my root.
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jul 20, 2017 22:16:22 GMT
Highest paid player ? Shows you what the move was about....££££ 🐍🐍🐍🐍🐍 So what? He's not a stoke fan...id be there like a shot if I was offered an extra mil a year!😀
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Post by dexta on Jul 20, 2017 22:18:47 GMT
Can see arnie having the wrath almighty off stoke fans on his return to stoke fuck him the two faced twat....as for sjw standing ovation in order i reckon pitty we cant say a proper send off for glenn
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Post by TexasPotter on Jul 20, 2017 22:19:43 GMT
Glad we aren't paying those wages all season for a quarter season man.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 20, 2017 22:24:23 GMT
Not sure the length of contract means anything whatsoever to Arnie and his leech brother. No doubt he'll leave next year when West Ham haven't shown any ambition by finishing mid table again... He stayed here four years
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Post by andystokey on Jul 20, 2017 22:24:29 GMT
I might be in a minority but I really don't think we will miss him. I also think we will finish higher than West Ham so for "lack of ambition" read personal £££.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 22:32:33 GMT
5 years on near a hundred grand a weak, that takes him to about 33... Christ that club is run terribly.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 20, 2017 22:35:33 GMT
I hope you end up destitute and bankrupt Marko you complete penis.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 20, 2017 22:41:36 GMT
He'll be pushing for a move to China in 2 max.
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Post by ruts66 on Jul 20, 2017 22:43:54 GMT
Sorry to go against the grain here but good luck to the guy.
I've enjoyed his time here and now he's leaving.
Not the end of the world and his replacement could be great with the £20m+ profit made on him...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 20, 2017 23:00:33 GMT
Really, playing on the left?
Surely you want your wing back to be left footed, if he's right footed, how is he going to put a tackle in on the right winger/fullback he's attempting to tackle?
Surely you want your left wing back to be able to go on the outside of the full back when going forward, so he can whip a cross into the box.
Ramadan is a right footed inverted winger.
Yes he tracks back well from that position but tracking back to help out the existing (and that's the important bit) fullback/wing back is a completely different proposition to actually being that player.
Oh, so that explains why right footed Arnautovic played largely on the left & left footed Shari played predominantly on the right for the last couple of seasons - they're both fcukin 'inverted' wingers?
That also explains why Arnautovic could hardly ever get round a full back on the outside, due to his 'inversion'. He was actually just frequently outpaced and that's why he often ended up on his backside, as his only option was to try to 'out muscle' his opponent. Ramadan put far more 'outside' runs in in a single game than Arnautovic did in 5 or 6 and Shaqiri usually cuts back even though he has gone 75% of the way past a full back on the outside. I don't agree that right footed players are unable to tackle with their left and Ramadan doesn't look like he's just a regulation, 20 year old single footed winger' to me, although it's early days. As a very promising 20 year old with some pace, strength and skill, he may be given the opportunity to develop into becoming an effective wing back imo. Certainly think he'll have the appetite to try!
Well, erm ... yep, that pretty much explains it exactly actually.
Out of interest, which right footed players are you thinking of, that play as left wing backs?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 20, 2017 23:02:29 GMT
5 years on near a hundred grand a weak, that takes him to about 33... Christ that club is run terribly. Takes him to nearly 34. The whole deal is worth about £50m. And it's more than likely that we've had his best years out of him. Bloody hell.
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 20, 2017 23:02:42 GMT
Paying Arnie £90k-a-week+ until he's 33 doesn't sound a great idea. The tax payers can afford it.
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Post by generationex on Jul 20, 2017 23:06:18 GMT
He's no Walters or Whelan but the club made a tidy few quid from him.
Don't hate him, more meh, what did you expect.
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Post by hammered on Jul 20, 2017 23:23:07 GMT
Paying Arnie £90k-a-week+ until he's 33 doesn't sound a great idea. The tax payers can afford it. Cobham - whatever's said about the move to the OS - the tax payer committed to this stadium long before it became WHU's. Maybe Stoke need a few £90k pw players?
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Post by darksideofthemoon on Jul 20, 2017 23:27:35 GMT
The tax payers can afford it. Cobham - whatever's said about the move to the OS - the tax payer committed to this stadium long before it became WHU's. Maybe Stoke need a few £90k pw players? Considering he only turns up 30% of the time....we were paying him FAR TOO MUCH. I'm glad it's you lot paying him that sort of money....not us
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2017 23:29:49 GMT
The tax payers can afford it. Cobham - whatever's said about the move to the OS - the tax payer committed to this stadium long before it became WHU's. Maybe Stoke need a few £90k pw players? I'd be all for paying him 90k, for 2 years. The deal your lot have tabled him is actually insane and I begrudge him less for leaving us as a result. The lifespan of a footballer is short and he won't become a pundit or a coach, he's also only really had about 2 or 3 truly successful and therefore properly high earning years at Stoke so a deal like this more then sets you up for life. He's leaving for a decent wad of cash too which can be invested elsewhere in the squad and a 21 million pound profit on a player looks quite good on paper it has to be said.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 20, 2017 23:40:11 GMT
Cobham - whatever's said about the move to the OS - the tax payer committed to this stadium long before it became WHU's. Maybe Stoke need a few £90k pw players? I'd be all for paying him 90k, for 2 years. The deal your lot have tabled him is actually insane and I begrudge him less for leaving us as a result. The lifespan of a footballer is short and he won't become a pundit or a coach, he's also only really had about 2 or 3 truly successful and therefore properly high earning years at Stoke so a deal like this more then sets you up for life. He's leaving for a decent wad of cash too which can be invested elsewhere in the squad and a 21 million pound profit on a player looks quite good on paper it has to be said. This is not profit in the traditional sence that it is a dividend payable to the owners or the shareholders. It's cash that must be re-invested in new players just to stay in place, and it's unlikely we'll find anyone better than Arni for 21 million. Also, the inflation in transfer fees is extremely high, maybe 40-50% a year because of all the TV cash flowing in. So the 21 million "profit" in 2013 pounds is a lot less than it appears.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 20, 2017 23:45:06 GMT
If that was on the table, you can almost see why he's kicked up a fuss and made himself look like a shit Maybe an extra £750k-a-year and 2 more years on silly money past his peak years I'm still worried that we're trying to avoid playing the game that most other clubs will be happy to play but on the other hand, fuck me that contract is absolutely insane! Ambition is one thing but Jesus Christ!
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Post by datguy on Jul 20, 2017 23:58:02 GMT
Fair play to the Dildo Brothers. They've certainly got a pair on them...
£90k p/w for 5 years for a 28 year-old. Risky, almost suicidal, business.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 0:17:55 GMT
I'd be all for paying him 90k, for 2 years. The deal your lot have tabled him is actually insane and I begrudge him less for leaving us as a result. The lifespan of a footballer is short and he won't become a pundit or a coach, he's also only really had about 2 or 3 truly successful and therefore properly high earning years at Stoke so a deal like this more then sets you up for life. He's leaving for a decent wad of cash too which can be invested elsewhere in the squad and a 21 million pound profit on a player looks quite good on paper it has to be said. This is not profit in the traditional sence that it is a dividend payable to the owners or the shareholders. It's cash that must be re-invested in new players just to stay in place, and it's unlikely we'll find anyone better than Arni for 21 million. Also, the inflation in transfer fees is extremely high, maybe 40-50% a year because of all the TV cash flowing in. So the 21 million "profit" in 2013 pounds is a lot less than it appears. This theory falls flat though as TV money increases at a faster rate.
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