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Post by mattface on Jul 10, 2017 15:32:37 GMT
Bollox. Big, hairy bollox.
Do a Swansea a la Sigurdsson.
Slap 50 big on his head; that'd make Brady & the porno bros think twice.
I do think we should put a mahoosive fee on him. Is there a release clause trigger does anyone know? Exactly - three years left on his contract the bidding starts at £50mil
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Post by alster on Jul 10, 2017 15:32:56 GMT
Sobhi wont be up to Arnie standard for another 2/3 years in my eyes. Would need a replacement ASAP if we lost him. Understand everyone frustrations at signing's but surely the club are trying to get to that next level. Cant just start chucking 40/50 million at players. I'm interested to know in what regard (what aspects of his game) Ramadan will not be upto Arnie's standard for another 2/3 years and how he would develop with minimal playing time. He is as strong as an ox, has exceptional ball skills, an eye for a pass in fact the only thing he really needs to improve is his awareness and that will only come with playing games at this level.
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 10, 2017 15:33:46 GMT
God no Time for Sobhi to shine
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Post by essexhammer on Jul 10, 2017 15:33:57 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us.
Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then?
Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind...
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Post by holdmedelilah on Jul 10, 2017 15:34:42 GMT
This is not a defence of the club but I genuinely don't know why the suicide squad are out in such numbers. Fair do's if this is as good as it gets by the end of the window or even the start of the season I too will be concerned. Do you honestly think our lot are just sitting there looking out the windows at Clayton Wood. This happens all the time. We did this to West Brom with Berahino. Course and distance and if he's had a good summer in the paddock so to speak then and starts banging them in this will well and truly piss on West Brom's chips. If not it's another nail in Hughes's coffin. I saw Shaqiri play in the hole at Southampton, plenty of promise there, I also saw Ramadan have a very decent game. He's shows bags of promise that may well flourish with regular games. Or we could refuse Armie's request but after the way he dragged his feet signing this contract today's news was fairly inevitable. I understand the frustrations but in the grand scheme of things but it's not even mid July yet, plenty of clubs have done nowt. Beside this isn't like when Greenhoff went believe me. There are positives, of course there are...you've mentioned some. I can believe though, regardless of all the money that Arnie might be having waved at him, that he could feel there's a lack of ambition. Even if he wrote off last season as just being a bad one... he then sees the signings... a player well past his best, a young lad who we all hope will make a fantastic PL breakthrough and the other bright signing prospect being a player who can't get a game for Man City. Assuming Arnie has ambition I can understand him being underwhelmed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:08 GMT
Got to hope for a bidding war... Everton could be interested.... Better than £50mil for Gylfi You honestly think he's better than Sigurdsson?
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Post by jeycov on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:33 GMT
As with Bego, great shame to lose him, but we have a ready made replacement, who I think will give 100%, 100% of the time and will be just as creative. Mark Hughes saved his career, Everton wouldn't give him what he wanted last summer, he is the darling of the Stoke fans (after Bojan maybe) and he made a long term commitment to stay with us. This is how he repays us. Maybe he feels uncomfortable with Ramadan breathing down his neck and seeing him perform on the practice field, or jealous of Bojan's popularity. Arni's great when he is up for it, but I'm afraid that is too seldom, like Shaq. Take the money and invest in more young players. It's defenders we need to stay in the Prem, not show ponies who don't turn out often enough. He can bring a smile to my face, but he can also be very annoying. I think he is making a big mistake. Stoke fans aren't used to having star players and will look past his tantrums and love him. But big club/city fans will not be impressed by his antics and body language and he could suddenly find his career going down a blind alley as it was before Hughes gave him a fresh chance. I normally wish players well, who decide to move on, particularly if they have been given good service, but at the moment I am a bit shocked by this announcement and have a bad taste about it. It feels like he has come back from the holidays and crossed Hughes (or someone) in some way. If it is a club v player disagreement, I'm supporting the club. I always have and always will. He will go from Hero to Zero .If its a champions league club thats fair, but if its West Ham we all know why he is going.If that is the case i for one will not be applaud him it will be the complete opposite when he comes back.,just hope we get a good price for him.On talk sport that Jim shite was saying Everton are still after 3 more players so they could be in for him again.The only good thing that might come out of it would be the new contract as we could have lost him for fuck all last season. Why move to another Premiership team and risk not starting every game? There were rumours that he wouldn't travel to Switzerland, interesting to see if he features today? 😢disappointing
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Post by malteser68 on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:35 GMT
He says he's "frustrated with the lack of ambition at the club" He has every right to be
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Post by philb on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:42 GMT
Thought this would happen eventually. He sees himself as a big fish in a small pond. The same will undoubtedly happen with Butland and Shaq (if he has a good season) . It's the reality of where we are as a club with our big name players. I'll only be disappointed if he ends up at somewhere like West Ham which will obviously be about money and not ambition. Personally, yes he is one of our better players if very inconsistent at times but like all players if he doesn't want to play for us anymore he's better off gone.
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Post by akstoke93 on Jul 10, 2017 15:35:53 GMT
Sobhi wont be up to Arnie standard for another 2/3 years in my eyes. Would need a replacement ASAP if we lost him. Understand everyone frustrations at signing's but surely the club are trying to get to that next level. Cant just start chucking 40/50 million at players. I'm interested to know in what regard (what aspects of his game) Ramadan will not be upto Arnie's standard for another 2/3 years and how he would develop with minimal playing time. He is as strong as an ox, has exceptional ball skills, an eye for a pass in fact the only thing he really needs to improve is his awareness and that will only come with playing games at this level. Power/Strength - Not Doubting his ability, just think we all may be disappointed if we have to rely on him all season.
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Post by neddy on Jul 10, 2017 15:36:20 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind...[/quote Was it Marseille did the same to you last year and you held out until the inevitable? This could go the same way?
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 10, 2017 15:36:28 GMT
Yarmalenko anyone. Direct replacement No, we already have a replacement with other young players wanting to break in. We need to buy players to stop the 4 goal defeats. I've had a quick look at other sites and they don't think Arni is worth more than £15m.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 10, 2017 15:36:59 GMT
Yarmalenko anyone. Direct replacement How is Yarmolenko (a left footer who plays on the right) a suitable replacement for Arnie, a right footer who plays on the left?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 15:37:07 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind... That's what I can't understand. No way Sullivan and Gold are going to pay £25m for him, is there? And chuck in £5m-a-year in wages. And yet Bilic has clearly tapped him up and led him to believe a bid that will get the job done is on its way. But with it being West Ham , I just cannot see it. And when he gets there, all he's got is the same battle for 8th he's got here.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 10, 2017 15:37:09 GMT
It's his opening gambit. He'll then say he likes Slavan's ambition, the stadium and wants to be in London. Whether anyone pays what we want is open to conjecture.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 10, 2017 15:37:30 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind... Which is why I think there most be someone else sniffing around and made their interest well known to his "advisors"
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Post by liathroid on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:02 GMT
You have to wonder what Hughes said to make Flech sign.Look Flech were selling SJW ,Whelan and Arnie maybe a couple more ,great I will sign ,must have been some bullshit said
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Post by chumley on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:13 GMT
Said it before. We are a stepping stone for him. He penned a new deal but wants off at 1st opportunity. Says fans are great to pacify us all bull and he's same as most players all about money. Let him go but West Ham FFS.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:38 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind... He's after more money and he will get it from you lot.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:39 GMT
If it was about maximising the £, then this, or possibly the next season is when to sell our Arnie.
But there's never an ideal time.
Ramadanadingdong to step up and the job's a good 'un though.
So if it is what it is, go bollox out for a big, big fee Scholesy please.
Time to earn your cash man.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:50 GMT
Surprised it's taken this long really when you take into account the type of personality and the excellent season he had a couple of years back. Let's hope there are a few clubs interested to up the price and that the whole thing is settled quickly. I imagine he might not be the last out of the door - it's just like things used to be at SCFC!
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Post by essexhammer on Jul 10, 2017 15:38:58 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind...[/quote Was it Marseille did the same to you last year and you held out until the inevitable? This could go the same way? Yep, with the moody fat frog ***t. Naturally, I'd love to have your man here, but christ, aside from money and a massive athletics stadium, the ambitions levels are pretty much the same - as in a resounding NONE.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 10, 2017 15:39:12 GMT
Sobhi wont be up to Arnie standard for another 2/3 years in my eyes. Would need a replacement ASAP if we lost him. Understand everyone frustrations at signing's but surely the club are trying to get to that next level. Cant just start chucking 40/50 million at players. I'm interested to know in what regard (what aspects of his game) Ramadan will not be upto Arnie's standard for another 2/3 years and how he would develop with minimal playing time. He is as strong as an ox, has exceptional ball skills, an eye for a pass in fact the only thing he really needs to improve is his awareness and that will only come with playing games at this level. I agree. He is keen to learn and will give 100%, 100% of the time. Strange board this so many crying when Hughes doesn't pick Ramadan, and now posters saying who we should buy to replace Arni.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:39:21 GMT
how classless traveling with your Club for it's pre-season tour and team building exercises and handing in your transfer request ::)Getting a bit more publicity eh by doing it whilst you're abroad? He's hot and cold these days anyway. I'm not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at our lack of transfer activity however I doubt Arnie's privy to all that goes on behind the scenes. So, head turning it is then. Oh, the modern footballer! Yeah but everyone will blame the club and Mr Fucking Temperamental bastard will still be hero shipped.
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Post by alster on Jul 10, 2017 15:39:39 GMT
This is not a defence of the club but I genuinely don't know why the suicide squad are out in such numbers. Fair do's if this is as good as it gets by the end of the window or even the start of the season I too will be concerned. Do you honestly think our lot are just sitting there looking out the windows at Clayton Wood. This happens all the time. We did this to West Brom with Berahino. Course and distance and if he's had a good summer in the paddock so to speak then and starts banging them in this will well and truly piss on West Brom's chips. If not it's another nail in Hughes's coffin. I saw Shaqiri play in the hole at Southampton, plenty of promise there, I also saw Ramadan have a very decent game. He's shows bags of promise that may well flourish with regular games. Or we could refuse Armie's request but after the way he dragged his feet signing this contract today's news was fairly inevitable. I understand the frustrations but in the grand scheme of things but it's not even mid July yet, plenty of clubs have done nowt. Beside this isn't like when Greenhoff went believe me. There are positives, of course there are...you've mentioned some. I can believe though, regardless of all the money that Arnie might be having waved at him, that he could feel there's a lack of ambition. Even if he wrote off last season as just being a bad one... he then sees the signings... a player well past his best, a young lad who we all hope will make a fantastic PL breakthrough and the other bright signing prospect being a player who can't get a game for Man City. Assuming Arnie has ambition I can understand him being underwhelmed. There is no doubt that the powers that be at the club are making us look so small time we'll struggle to attract players even if we try which we don't really seem to be doing.
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 10, 2017 15:39:48 GMT
shame to see him go, however, is it fortune where the likes of Ramadan and Bojan can breathe new life into the squad with something to prove?
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 10, 2017 15:40:23 GMT
Yarmalenko anyone. Direct replacement How is Yarmolenko (a left footer who plays on the right) a suitable replacement for Arnie, a right footer who plays on the left? Not a direct replacement, John, I agree, but a fantastic addition to the squad to give us all a huge lift. If he plays right, Ramadan left and Shaq at number 10........mouth watering.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 10, 2017 15:40:39 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind... Which is why I think there most be someone else sniffing around and made their interest well known to his "advisors" Surely it's either the red or blue bin dippers or perhaps he wants to warm the bench at Chelsea?
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Post by toppercorner on Jul 10, 2017 15:40:42 GMT
15m offer from west ham is incredibly insulting. they must know we can only sell on the cheap
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Post by essexhammer on Jul 10, 2017 15:41:04 GMT
Jesus. He cites a lack of ambition for wanting to leave you lot, quite possibly to come to us. Has he not seen our penny-pinching tight arse shyster owners then? Out of the frying pan in to the fire springs to mind... That's what I can't understand. No way Sullivan and Gold are going to pay £25m for him, is there? And chuck in £5m-a-year in wages. And yet Bilic has clearly tapped him up and led him to believe a bid that will get the job done is on its way. But with it being West Ham , I just cannot see it. And when he gets there, all he's got is the same battle for 8th he's got here. Well they paid £20 million for Ayew, so they might do. Gives them kudos to then say they broke our transfer record again. They may even raise it to £30 million if you took Snodgrass off us too.
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