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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 0:29:36 GMT
Breaking now on BBC World...A vehicle has struck pedestrians in London...No details yet as to who it was, but an arrest has been made and several reported injured...
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Post by stockportstokie on Jun 19, 2017 0:52:22 GMT
Would advise the usual suspects to read some reports of the incident before embarrassing themselves.
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Post by Boothen on Jun 19, 2017 4:09:13 GMT
Would advise the usual suspects to read some reports of the incident before embarrassing themselves. Are you alluding to the fact that it hit people coming out of that well know terrorist recruitment and indoctrination centre, Finsbury Park Mosque? You do realise that the olive skinned bloke with black hair who the police arrested could have been a Muslim out to stir up some sectarian violence betwixt Sunni and Shiite just as much as he could be anything else. Don't forget, those cunts kill far more of their own kind than anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 4:17:22 GMT
Would advise the usual suspects to read some reports of the incident before embarrassing themselves. Are you alluding to the fact that it hit people coming out of that well know terrorist recruitment and indoctrination centre, Finsbury Park Mosque? You do realise that the olive skinned bloke with black hair who the police arrested could have been a Muslim out to stir up some sectarian violence betwixt Sunni and Shiite just as much as he could be anything else. Don't forget, those cunts kill far more of their own kind than anyone else. Typical BBC Biased....Already saying " White Man" arrested, had the sandal been on the other foot there would have been a blackout regarding the attacker's identity.
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Post by Boothen on Jun 19, 2017 4:21:16 GMT
Yeah, also notice how the MCB were putting out a statement before the wheels had even stopped turning? You have to wonder why they weren't so quick to respond when it was their brethren on a murderous rampage across London?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 4:27:04 GMT
Yeah, also notice how the MCB were putting out a statement before the wheels had even stopped turning? You have to wonder why they weren't so quick to respond when it was their brethren on a murderous rampage across London? And also screaming " This is Islamaphobia".... Yet they, and indeed the Media never refer to previous attacks as Jihadist Extremism....
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 19, 2017 5:13:08 GMT
This has been coming.
We're heading towards civil war.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 5:24:35 GMT
FFS...The BBC are a fucking disgrace. Keep re interviewing witnesses saying this White Man wanted to kill muslims, that's all they are concentrating on, totally biased sensationalism, I often wonder what is the agenda of The BBC....Also now saying police and ambulance response time was 40 minutes, unlike westmister and London bridge attacks were about 5 minutes....The BBC are a freeking disgrace.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 5:32:49 GMT
This has been coming. We're heading towards civil war. Tragically I think civil war is inevitable, but not for a few years yet. This incident has all the hallmarks of mentally-disturbed self-radicalised loner. Whilst it may be cited as a catalyst for retaliatory incidents I believe it will take a few more years of growing Islamic population plus subsequent growth in the right / far-right before the ingredients for true civil war are reached. My belief is that there will be an organised right-wing attack in the future that mimics jihadist attacks, possibly a suicide attack and possibly not in Britain, that will see civil wars erupt across Europe. Hopefully I can think back to this post when I'm older and laugh/cringe at how foolish I was to worry.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 5:49:25 GMT
This has been coming. We're heading towards civil war. Tragically I think civil war is inevitable, but not for a few years yet. This incident has all the hallmarks of mentally-disturbed self-radicalised loner. Whilst it may be cited as a catalyst for retaliatory incidents I believe it will take a few more years of growing Islamic population plus subsequent growth in the right / far-right before the ingredients for true civil war are reached. My belief is that there will be an organised right-wing attack in the future that mimics jihadist attacks, possibly a suicide attack and possibly not in Britain, that will see civil wars erupt across Europe. Hopefully I can think back to this post when I'm older and laugh/cringe at how foolish I was to worry. Sadly I think you may be right and the far-right are going to start to retaliate. I also feel that this is what the terrorists and jihadis have wanted all along so that they will continue to escalate their atrocities to ensure civil war ensues. I think it's too late to stop the escalation of these attacks and the resultant carnage, but something drastic needs to be done urgently to try to protect everyone of every faith from these nutters, but how do you identify an idiot (white or muslim) driving a car as being a "car killer" or suicide bomber ?
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 19, 2017 5:55:34 GMT
Tragically I think civil war is inevitable, but not for a few years yet. This incident has all the hallmarks of mentally-disturbed self-radicalised loner. Whilst it may be cited as a catalyst for retaliatory incidents I believe it will take a few more years of growing Islamic population plus subsequent growth in the right / far-right before the ingredients for true civil war are reached. My belief is that there will be an organised right-wing attack in the future that mimics jihadist attacks, possibly a suicide attack and possibly not in Britain, that will see civil wars erupt across Europe. Hopefully I can think back to this post when I'm older and laugh/cringe at how foolish I was to worry. Sadly I think you may be right and the far-right are going to start to retaliate. I also feel that this is what the terrorists and jihadis have wanted all along so that they will continue to escalate their atrocities to ensure civil war ensues. I think it's too late to stop the escalation of these attacks and the resultant carnage, but something drastic needs to be done urgently to try to protect everyone of every faith from these nutters, but how do you identify an idiot (white or muslim) driving a car as being a "car killer" or suicide bomber ? You can't, you can't vouch for one of the probable 35 million cars on the road to suddenly veer off onto the pavement and plow into a group of people, like you say it's gone too far now, we've all just got to hope we're not there when there's an attack.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 5:59:39 GMT
Large white man ( builder type) in his 50's very strong shouting I want to kill muslims
According to the guy who hit him in the stomach and tried to hold him down
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Post by themistocles on Jun 19, 2017 6:20:42 GMT
Would advise the usual suspects to read some reports of the incident before embarrassing themselves. By this you obviously mean read all media that follows your rhetoric exactly or your wrong... I hope you take your own advice flower.
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 19, 2017 6:24:17 GMT
Mayor of London Sadiq Khan: "We don't yet know the full details, but this was clearly a deliberate attack on innocent Londoners, many of whom were finishing prayers during the holy month of Ramadan. ... While this appears to be an attack on a particular community, like the terrible attacks in Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge it is also an assault on all our shared values of tolerance, freedom and respect."
Shared values defined by the Mayor and explained to the public... shouldn't it be the other way round?
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Post by Northy on Jun 19, 2017 6:37:59 GMT
Cant believe Ive just seen a muslim being interviewed on bbc saying 'growing up in the uk we dont feel safe practicing our religion'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:47:49 GMT
that well know terrorist recruitment and indoctrination centre, Finsbury Park Mosque Well said. It's an epicentre of vile festering hate and seething resentment.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 6:49:44 GMT
Regardless of race, colour, creed or religion, can people please just stop killing each other?
Is it really too much to ask for someone to not jump in a van and run someone over, stab, shoot or blow up either single people or groups of people?
I appreciate i'm extremely naive here but even so...
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 19, 2017 6:50:47 GMT
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Post by serpico on Jun 19, 2017 7:02:21 GMT
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 19, 2017 7:09:31 GMT
Agreed. The last thing we need now is some loose cannon tool playing copycat.
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 19, 2017 7:10:41 GMT
Rip, those statements come across as superficial. For example, there's no declared intent to actively tackle radical preachers, no "we'll deal with this" message or any kind of policy that could upset hardliners or god forbid really change anything, as though by chance their religion is the one linked to this. They say compassionate words, pay tribute to the emergency services, then shrug their shoulders.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jun 19, 2017 7:12:26 GMT
Very true, does anyone think there won't be further attacks whilst our lame duck PM continues sitting on her hands?
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Post by yeokel on Jun 19, 2017 7:18:38 GMT
Cant believe Ive just seen a muslim being interviewed on bbc saying 'growing up in the uk we dont feel safe practicing our religion' In answer to that..... rearrange the following words to suit - 'why don't you fuck off to a country which will allow you to practice your barbaric and murderous religion in peace then?' Oh no, on second thoughts don't rearrange them - they look fine as they are.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 19, 2017 7:20:50 GMT
Very true, does anyone think there won't be further attacks whilst our lame duck PM continues sitting on her hands? Enough is enough maybe it will be now, there will no doubt be further reprisal attacks how do we stop this escalating into civil war.
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 19, 2017 7:36:57 GMT
First I think some of you need to grow up and don't let your preconceived views and racism get in the way of what is a terrible attack on all of us by a mad man, I know that If id have been there I wouldn't have been as calm with the perpetrator as the people who apprehended him and handed him over to the police in a calm manner were. Perhaps some of you who suggest violence towards this religion can see that violence on both sides does not make things better it escalates the situation. Also the response to this community to the perpetrator is a lesson to all that we must catch these vile men and women in all communities and hand them over to the police not act like vigilante's.
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Post by Northy on Jun 19, 2017 7:43:59 GMT
First I think some of you need to grow up and don't let your preconceived views and racism get in the way of what is a terrible attack on all of us by a mad man, I know that If id have been there I wouldn't have been as calm with the perpetrator as the people who apprehended him and handed him over to the police in a calm manner were. Perhaps some of you who suggest violence towards this religion can see that violence on both sides does not make things better it escalates the situation. Also the response to this community to the perpetrator is a lesson to all that we must catch these vile men and women in all communities and hand them over to the police not act like vigilante's. And here he comes spouting rubbish again, who in this thread has suggested violence towards that religion, go on, read the thread again and tell us.
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 19, 2017 7:46:49 GMT
First I think some of you need to grow up and don't let your preconceived views and racism get in the way of what is a terrible attack on all of us by a mad man, I know that If id have been there I wouldn't have been as calm with the perpetrator as the people who apprehended him and handed him over to the police in a calm manner were. Perhaps some of you who suggest violence towards this religion can see that violence on both sides does not make things better it escalates the situation. Also the response to this community to the perpetrator is a lesson to all that we must catch these vile men and women in all communities and hand them over to the police not act like vigilante's. And here he comes spouting rubbish again, who in this thread has suggested violence towards that religion, go on, read the thread again and tell us. Not on this thread but on both the other 2 terror attack threads
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Post by serpico on Jun 19, 2017 7:49:53 GMT
First I think some of you need to grow up and don't let your preconceived views and racism get in the way of what is a terrible attack on all of us by a mad man, I know that If id have been there I wouldn't have been as calm with the perpetrator as the people who apprehended him and handed him over to the police in a calm manner were. Perhaps some of you who suggest violence towards this religion can see that violence on both sides does not make things better it escalates the situation. Also the response to this community to the perpetrator is a lesson to all that we must catch these vile men and women in all communities and hand them over to the police not act like vigilante's. i read this board regularly and i've not seen anyone suggesting we initiate violence against a religion, maybe i missed it but you seem to constantly build straw man arguments.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Jun 19, 2017 7:50:31 GMT
Cant believe Ive just seen a muslim being interviewed on bbc saying 'growing up in the uk we dont feel safe practicing our religion' That's a bit like me saying I don't feel safe in the Boothen End watching Stoke. ???
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 19, 2017 8:01:07 GMT
First I think some of you need to grow up and don't let your preconceived views and racism get in the way of what is a terrible attack on all of us by a mad man, I know that If id have been there I wouldn't have been as calm with the perpetrator as the people who apprehended him and handed him over to the police in a calm manner were. Perhaps some of you who suggest violence towards this religion can see that violence on both sides does not make things better it escalates the situation. Also the response to this community to the perpetrator is a lesson to all that we must catch these vile men and women in all communities and hand them over to the police not act like vigilante's. Where to start with this? I'll start with the casual accusation of racism with a pre-crime vibe, excellent. Then the liberal adjective bingo game: "vile" 2 points well done. Community, nice yeah liking it. Negative bingo bonus for not mentioning the religion itself that's another point. You doing well here ducky. Then finally suggesting thise who disagree need to grow up, so associating the right with immaturity, another point. Mate, go to a community leader and tell them you've scored 6 points today.
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