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Post by spitthedog on Jun 19, 2017 8:24:17 GMT
Yeah, also notice how the MCB were putting out a statement before the wheels had even stopped turning? You have to wonder why they weren't so quick to respond when it was their brethren on a murderous rampage across London? And also screaming " This is Islamaphobia".... Yet they, and indeed the Media never refer to previous attacks as Jihadist Extremism.... Are you joking?...You must have been in a cave.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 8:24:24 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack?
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 19, 2017 8:25:31 GMT
that well know terrorist recruitment and indoctrination centre, Finsbury Park Mosque Well said. It's an epicentre of vile festering hate and seething resentment. A bit like here then.
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Post by spitthedog on Jun 19, 2017 8:27:22 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? Which is a bit like what white people expect all Muslims to do when a terror act is committed by some Jihadist nutter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 8:29:20 GMT
And also screaming " This is Islamaphobia".... Yet they, and indeed the Media never refer to previous attacks as Jihadist Extremism.... Are you joking?...You must have been in a cave. Have you heard any Politician, Any Media Outlet, or any spokesperson for the MCB refer to Manchester, Westminster, London Bridge or Lee Rigby as Jihadist Extremism....
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 19, 2017 8:31:46 GMT
Rip, those statements come across as superficial. For example, there's no declared intent to actively tackle radical preachers, no "we'll deal with this" message or any kind of policy that could upset hardliners or god forbid really change anything, as though by chance their religion is the one linked to this. They say compassionate words, pay tribute to the emergency services, then shrug their shoulders. I'd probably disagree, but maybe that is so. I was merely pointing that they did respond as quickly to attacks carried out by radical Islamic extremists.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Jun 19, 2017 8:37:56 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? Which is a bit like what white people expect all Muslims to do when a terror act is committed by some Jihadist nutter. The only white person who should be apologising is the silly cow squatting in number 10.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 19, 2017 8:42:07 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? Antifa and the usual suspects will do that on our behalf.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 8:50:55 GMT
Are you joking?...You must have been in a cave. Have you heard any Politician, Any Media Outlet, or any spokesperson for the MCB refer to Manchester, Westminster, London Bridge or Lee Rigby as Jihadist Extremism.... Paul Nuttall can't construct a sentence without the words Jihadist Extremist being in there....
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Post by Billy the kid on Jun 19, 2017 8:57:28 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? Which is a bit like what white people expect all Muslims to do when a terror act is committed by some Jihadist nutter. That is a fair point to be honest
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Post by serpico on Jun 19, 2017 9:04:36 GMT
surprised isis haven't tried to claim responsibility for this, they often delight in the death of muslims.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 9:11:29 GMT
Are you alluding to the fact that it hit people coming out of that well know terrorist recruitment and indoctrination centre, Finsbury Park Mosque? You do realise that the olive skinned bloke with black hair who the police arrested could have been a Muslim out to stir up some sectarian violence betwixt Sunni and Shiite just as much as he could be anything else. Don't forget, those cunts kill far more of their own kind than anyone else. Typical BBC Biased....Already saying " White Man" arrested, had the sandal been on the other foot there would have been a blackout regarding the attacker's identity. You've got to remember that the circumstances are different. For example if an attacker has not acted alone a blackout buys the police time to gather intelligence and try and capture all other perpetrators. And in this scenario where the person in question is alive and has been arrested the media have an extra duty of care with their reporting so as not to prejudice any potential trial....
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 19, 2017 9:11:41 GMT
We all knew it wouldn't be long untill someone took the law into their own hands. The Government should have been cracking down on this shit years ago when people were first warning them about what would happen. Instead we took the softly-softly approach & it's created a monster, which has inturn started to create a native population who feel completely let down & unprotected by their own Government, and now some dickhead has decided to deal with things himself.
There'll be another one along shortly now. You can guarantee that as I'm typing this some Islamic nutjobs are sitting there discussing how they'll 'take revenge against the infidel', and there's nodoubt some other dickhead natives who've gained some sort of sad 'boost' to their hope of us taking up arms & fighting back on the streets.
The Government need to get their fucking act together pronto, before this really does start turning into something majorly out-of-control... Although we all know how imcompetent this Government are, so I wont be holding my breath.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 9:21:06 GMT
Typical BBC Biased....Already saying " White Man" arrested, had the sandal been on the other foot there would have been a blackout regarding the attacker's identity. You've got to remember that the circumstances are different. For example if an attacker has not acted alone a blackout buys the police time to gather intelligents and try and capture all other perpetrators. And in this scenario we're the person in question is alive and has been arrested the media have an extra duty of care with their reporting so as not to prejudice any potential trial.... Good point well made....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 9:24:08 GMT
You've got to remember that the circumstances are different. For example if an attacker has not acted alone a blackout buys the police time to gather intelligents and try and capture all other perpetrators. And in this scenario we're the person in question is alive and has been arrested the media have an extra duty of care with their reporting so as not to prejudice any potential trial.... Good point well made.... Albeit with horrendous spelling!
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 19, 2017 9:41:08 GMT
Albeit with horrendous spelling! Salop will be issuing a Fatwa on your @&$e as we speak. Call in the grammar Nazis!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 9:46:44 GMT
This is looking like a one off nutter as opposed to a far right group
Upto now anyway.
So why this morning, do the media keep saying far right groups?
No group has come forward...have they?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 19, 2017 9:57:17 GMT
There are conflicting reports regarding emergency service response. Local worshippers saying the police took one hour to respond and the ambulance service 45 minutes. In the mean time Deputy Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu, the Senior National Coordinator for Counter Terrorism said: “From 00:21hrs this morning police received a number of calls to Seven Sisters Road following a van having collided with pedestrians. Officers were in the immediate vicinity as the attack unfolded and responded instantly. Additional officers arrived within 10 minutes.” Somebody is lying through their back teeth. I find it hard to believe that, given we are on severe alert for terrorist attacks, that police would have taken one hour to respond.
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Post by dexta on Jun 19, 2017 10:38:40 GMT
There are conflicting reports regarding emergency service response. Local worshippers saying the police took one hour to respond and the ambulance service 45 minutes. In the mean time Deputy Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu, the Senior National Coordinator for Counter Terrorism said: “From 00:21hrs this morning police received a number of calls to Seven Sisters Road following a van having collided with pedestrians. Officers were in the immediate vicinity as the attack unfolded and responded instantly. Additional officers arrived within 10 minutes.” Somebody is lying through their back teeth. I find it hard to believe that, given we are on severe alert for terrorist attacks, that police would have taken one hour to respond. that will be our muslim brothers saying it took so long....trying to get a sympathy vote
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 19, 2017 11:09:20 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? We apologies when others attack us, so why not ? a terrorist cowardly attack on un expecting people is abhorrent whatever nationality the terrorist butcher is, the only good terrorist is a dead one. The failure of our authorities to recognise the tensions on our streets and the failure to act on it will lead to more attacks, this appears to be a reprisal attack, it will be interesting to find out which terrorist organisation this murderer was acting for !,
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Post by Mendicant on Jun 19, 2017 11:12:24 GMT
Do all us white blokes now have to apologise and condemn the attack? Which is a bit like what white people expect all Muslims to do when a terror act is committed by some Jihadist nutter. A crime that is the product of one person's distorted values versus those of the radical wing of a religion has a different context. The response to a single vigilante nutjob will not be the same as the response to a systemised production line of nutjobs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:16:51 GMT
This is looking like a one off nutter as opposed to a far right group Upto now anyway. So why this morning, do the media keep saying far right groups? No group has come forward...have they? Isn't that no different to a lone Asian nutter being described as an Islamic Exremist though?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:28:08 GMT
This is looking like a one off nutter as opposed to a far right group Upto now anyway. So why this morning, do the media keep saying far right groups? No group has come forward...have they? Isn't that no different to a lone Asian nutter being described as an Islamic Exremist though? In a way yes......in that case tho, a group usually hold their hand up after to claim responsibility No group has come forward over this yet, but the media, have in some cases called it as a 'far right group' Well they did this morning Maybe they are right and I haven't heard the full story Has a group come forward?
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Post by starkiller on Jun 19, 2017 11:29:07 GMT
This is looking like a one off nutter as opposed to a far right group Upto now anyway. So why this morning, do the media keep saying far right groups? No group has come forward...have they? Isn't that no different to a lone Asian nutter being described as an Islamic Exremist though? It is different when you start listing the number of Muslim attacks in comparison. There's obviously lots, lots more lone nutters in Islam to the point where it becomes a pattern. This current attack is not terrorism, no matter how hard people try to make that label stick. Was the Yorkshire ripper a terrorist against prostitutes? Of course not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:29:49 GMT
The difference in tone on this thread is a fucking disgrace when you compare it to others recently.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:33:47 GMT
Isn't that no different to a lone Asian nutter being described as an Islamic Exremist though? In a way yes......in that case tho, a group usually hold their hand up after to claim responsibility No group has come forward over this yet, but the media, have in some cases called it as a 'far right group' Well they did this morning Maybe they are right and I haven't heard the full story Has a group come forward? At the point when someone claims responsibility or the police confirm that persons ideology/beliefs I 100% agree but people are quick to put a label on it straight aaay so why would this attack be any different?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:41:28 GMT
Isn't that no different to a lone Asian nutter being described as an Islamic Exremist though? It is different when you start listing the number of Muslim attacks in comparison. There's obviously lots, lots more lone nutters in Islam to the point where it becomes a pattern. This current attack is not terrorism, no matter how hard people try to make that label stick. Was the Yorkshire ripper a terrorist against prostitutes? Of course not. So if it comes out in the next few days that this fella is part of an organised right wing group you still wouldn't label it as terrorism? Because at the point of any attack happening no matter what the skin colour of the perpetrator do any of us technically know if it's a lone wolf or part of a wider network?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:44:06 GMT
In a way yes......in that case tho, a group usually hold their hand up after to claim responsibility No group has come forward over this yet, but the media, have in some cases called it as a 'far right group' Well they did this morning Maybe they are right and I haven't heard the full story Has a group come forward? At the point when someone claims responsibility or the police confirm that persons ideology/beliefs I 100% agree but people are quick to put a label on it straight aaay so why would this attack be any different? Look again....."they said far right **GROUP** Has a group come forward? I've not heard this Only one crackpot I'm assuming Upto now .....I say assume as the facts aren't out yet....regardless of some media reports itching to add things
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:49:46 GMT
At the point when someone claims responsibility or the police confirm that persons ideology/beliefs I 100% agree but people are quick to put a label on it straight aaay so why would this attack be any different? Look again....."they said far right **GROUP** Has a group come forward? I've not heard this Only one crackpot I'm assuming Upto now .....I say assume as the facts aren't out yet....regardless of some media reports itching to add things Who said "far right" group sorry? When ISIS take credit for a lone attack they are often claiming responsibility for something they had no knowledge of for PR purposes. A lot of extremist groups work this way. A lone mad man shouting "Allah is great" isnt that different to a lone madman shouting "death to all Muslims" Chances are both have been indoctrinated into their beliefs in similar ways whether it be radical Islamist views or far right views?
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Post by stockportstokie on Jun 19, 2017 11:53:45 GMT
Quite simply this board is full of thick cunts but it's probably an indication of the city itself, full to the brim of uneducated manipulated scum. Tories in Stoke South is testament to that.
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