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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 23:05:02 GMT
Fucking hell, I bet you believe the Warren Commission, as well! I don't believe anybody. I don't even believe that you don't believe anybody. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 23:08:22 GMT
I don't even believe that you don't believe anybody. Well.. perhaps my Labrador when she whispers in my ear. š |
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Post by 4372 on Mar 21, 2019 23:22:50 GMT
SO, IS A NO'DEAL BREXIT NEXT FRIDAY NOW DEAD:?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 23:23:23 GMT
Direct quote from the EU: "The European Council will agree to an extension until the 22nd May 2019, provided the WA has been approved by the HOC next week. If the WA is not approved by the HOC next week, the European Council agrees on an extension until 12th April 2019 and expects the UK to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council." So there's Keunssberg's unconditional three week extension but is it actually dependent on May HAVING MV3 NEXT WEEK or could she simply delay it to, say, April 11th now? So it's about a five-week extension if the vote goes through, and around eight weeks if it doesn't. Fair point about her delaying it until the very last minute again - she probably fucking will. How long does it take to organise a general election? Is it six weeks - I seem to remember seeing that figure? Even at six weeks, it would mean a new government (presumably not led by May if the Tories win) would have two weeks to organise something - which is not a lot of time at all, without another extension. I don't really so how this extension helps that much if the WA doesn't get accepted, and that's even if she is allowed to bring the WA to vote again. No it's a two week extension if it doesn't go through and that is to allow the UK to formulate a plan in that time on what it wants to do ... election/second referendum etc. And at that point the EU will decide on the length of the further (long) extension to facilitate this plan. Not sure whether May is even duty bound to have MV3 next week though to get either extension. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 23:26:03 GMT
So it's about a five-week extension if the vote goes through, and around eight weeks if it doesn't. Fair point about her delaying it until the very last minute again - she probably fucking will. How long does it take to organise a general election? Is it six weeks - I seem to remember seeing that figure? Even at six weeks, it would mean a new government (presumably not led by May if the Tories win) would have two weeks to organise something - which is not a lot of time at all, without another extension. I don't really so how this extension helps that much if the WA doesn't get accepted, and that's even if she is allowed to bring the WA to vote again. No it's a two week extension if it doesn't go through and that is to allow the UK to formulate a plan in that time on what it wants to do ... election/second referendum etc. And at that point the EU will decide on the length of the further (long) extension to facilitate this plan. Not sure whether May is even duty bound to have MV3 next week though to get either extension. That's an interesting point. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 23:30:39 GMT
SO, IS A NO'DEAL BREXIT NEXT FRIDAY NOW DEAD:? Dead as a Dodo |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 23:30:49 GMT
So it's about a five-week extension if the vote goes through, and around eight weeks if it doesn't. Fair point about her delaying it until the very last minute again - she probably fucking will. How long does it take to organise a general election? Is it six weeks - I seem to remember seeing that figure? Even at six weeks, it would mean a new government (presumably not led by May if the Tories win) would have two weeks to organise something - which is not a lot of time at all, without another extension. I don't really so how this extension helps that much if the WA doesn't get accepted, and that's even if she is allowed to bring the WA to vote again. No it's a two week extension if it doesn't go through and that is to allow the UK to formulate a plan in that time on what it wants to do ... election/second referendum etc. And at that point the EU will decide on the length of the further (long) extension to facilitate this plan. Not sure whether May is even duty bound to have MV3 next week though to get either extension. Ah, I got it completely the wrong way round. Cheers for that explanation. I guess it's in the hands of Bercow whether she can bring it forward again |
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Post by Gods on Mar 21, 2019 23:33:57 GMT
SO, IS A NO'DEAL BREXIT NEXT FRIDAY NOW DEAD:? I think the 29th March still needs to be taken out of law but essentially it's a gonna. Isn't that the date when Nigel Farrage and his 'peasants revolt' of men and women (nearly all men) followed by a portaloo are due to arrive in London?   |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 22, 2019 0:18:10 GMT
No it's a two week extension if it doesn't go through and that is to allow the UK to formulate a plan in that time on what it wants to do ... election/second referendum etc. And at that point the EU will decide on the length of the further (long) extension to facilitate this plan. Not sure whether May is even duty bound to have MV3 next week though to get either extension. That's an interesting point. I guess she's got to have it next week, or else she won't get all the legislation through by the 22nd May if the thing actually passes. One thing is for sure, the EU are going to be mightily pissed if she doesn't hold it next week. Interestingly, when Keunssberg asked her directly if she would DEFINITELY hold it next week, she didn't give a direct answer. |
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Post by hammered on Mar 22, 2019 1:10:30 GMT
No chance of BREXIT now - just some kind of fudged bullshit BRINO whatever form or however long this now takes.
Expect a rinse/repeat of this bullshit till May's gone - followed by etc..but we ain't leaving - Ā£30b and continued subservience to the nation wrecking EU - we must be mad!!
And to think - to leave on the 29th as 17.4m people voted - May has to do nothing.
Irony....
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Post by starkiller on Mar 22, 2019 1:53:02 GMT
Revoke Article 50 types. Are they too stupid to realise the future ramifications of ignoring the outcome of a democratic vote? Or are they simply fascists?
Imagine their response to such a thing...
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 22, 2019 2:07:54 GMT
That's an interesting point. I guess she's got to have it next week, or else she won't get all the legislation through by the 22nd May if the thing actually passes. One thing is for sure, the EU are going to be mightily pissed if she doesn't hold it next week. Interestingly, when Keunssberg asked her directly if she would DEFINITELY hold it next week, she didn't give a direct answer. She'll hold it next week and when it fails again she'll resign. |
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 22, 2019 5:52:56 GMT
There's a good Neil Young song "can you feel it getting down to the wire?". Not yet. May will go next week I reckon, then Juncker and Barnier.
Maybe nothing will happen until there's agreement on the Northern Ireland border. Until then, Brexit is a platform for political careers rather than a problem to be solved.
But then again, I once bet on Notts County to win Endsleigh Division One and they finished bottom.
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 22, 2019 5:56:13 GMT
I guess she's got to have it next week, or else she won't get all the legislation through by the 22nd May if the thing actually passes. One thing is for sure, the EU are going to be mightily pissed if she doesn't hold it next week. Interestingly, when Keunssberg asked her directly if she would DEFINITELY hold it next week, she didn't give a direct answer. She'll hold it next week and when it fails again she'll resign. Iāve got a feeling it will pass but the price will be her resignation So sheāll be gone anyway |
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 7:06:14 GMT
I think people are entitled to get a little pissed off after 40ish years of the DUP and Sinn Fein IRA not to mention the odd bomb or two over the years. It's been going on a lot longer than forty years matey. Your statement just compounds all the issues and threatens to disrupt a relative calm in recent years on the island of Ireland. No worries.. just gobsmacked at such attitudes. I think you'll find the disruptive element is found within the confines of the Ireland of Ireland. Constant arguments, lack of goodwill to power share and now the INLA are starting to kill (outside a school this week  ) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped.
I'm well aware that it's been going on for over 40 years matey I was referring to the particular brand of troubles and politics from the two reprehensible parties that are the preference of the electorate in NI but you know that don't you?
The problem for NI is solely the issue of the people who vote these parties in. The SDLP always appeared a more intelligent voice and the Alliance party a better option but you get what you vote for.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 7:08:11 GMT
The fact that you're that sad that you're pointing out grammatical mistakes says even more about you. At least check your shit before you post if it's that important to you Fishing is good tonight  Really |
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 7:11:13 GMT
I think people are entitled to get a little pissed off after 40ish years of the DUP and Sinn Fein IRA not to mention the odd bomb or two over the years. I just heard a M.E.P. from Sinn Fein on LBC. She was a bit shitty to the presenter, Ian Dale, I thought. Oh, and apparently she had been convicted of terrorist offences, unbeknownst to him! What, no letter of comfort? |
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 22, 2019 7:15:35 GMT
It's been going on a lot longer than forty years matey. Your statement just compounds all the issues and threatens to disrupt a relative calm in recent years on the island of Ireland. No worries.. just gobsmacked at such attitudes.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
So do we cut them off & leave nutters to take the opportunity to fill the power vacuum, setting off another round of troubles & then emotionally blackmailing the Yanks into sorting out their ancestors... |
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 7:20:18 GMT
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
So do we cut them off & leave nutters to take the opportunity to fill the power vacuum, setting off another round of troubles & then emotionally blackmailing the Yanks into sorting out their ancestors... Leave them to sort out their own problems of their own making. The people there are voting for this shit Barth. Isn't it time we gave up the empire at least that's what I assumed all you raving lefties wanted? |
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 7:22:35 GMT
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
So do we cut them off & leave nutters to take the opportunity to fill the power vacuum, setting off another round of troubles & then emotionally blackmailing the Yanks into sorting out their ancestors... They are sorting out their problems Barth.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47650488
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Post by Gods on Mar 22, 2019 7:59:28 GMT
There's a good Neil Young song "can you feel it getting down to the wire?". Not yet. May will go next week I reckon, then Juncker and Barnier. Maybe nothing will happen until there's agreement on the Northern Ireland border. Until then, Brexit is a platform for political careers rather than a problem to be solved. But then again, I once bet on Notts County to win Endsleigh Division One and they finished bottom. The Buffalo Springfield rather than solo Neil although it's Neil's vocal. It's an absolute cracker and most appropriate to the current rising tension! |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 22, 2019 8:11:27 GMT
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 22, 2019 8:43:32 GMT
It's been going on a lot longer than forty years matey. Your statement just compounds all the issues and threatens to disrupt a relative calm in recent years on the island of Ireland. No worries.. just gobsmacked at such attitudes. I think you'll find the disruptive element is found within the confines of the Ireland of Ireland. Constant arguments, lack of goodwill to power share and now the INLA are starting to kill (outside a school this week ) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped.Ā
I'm well aware that it's been going on for over 40 years matey I was referring to the particular brand of troubles and politics from the two reprehensible parties that are the preference of the electorate in NI but you know that don't you?
The problem for NI is solely the issue of the people who vote these parties in. The SDLP always appeared a more intelligent voice and the Alliance party a better option but you get what you vote for.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
Yes.. I'm sure your suggestions are going to help things. š |
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Post by Northy on Mar 22, 2019 8:57:09 GMT
It's been going on a lot longer than forty years matey. Your statement just compounds all the issues and threatens to disrupt a relative calm in recent years on the island of Ireland. No worries.. just gobsmacked at such attitudes. I think you'll find the disruptive element is found within the confines of the Ireland of Ireland. Constant arguments, lack of goodwill to power share and now the INLA are starting to kill (outside a school this week ) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped.
I'm well aware that it's been going on for over 40 years matey I was referring to the particular brand of troubles and politics from the two reprehensible parties that are the preference of the electorate in NI but you know that don't you?
The problem for NI is solely the issue of the people who vote these parties in. The SDLP always appeared a more intelligent voice and the Alliance party a better option but you get what you vote for.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
Werent the 6 counties part of pictland originally ? |
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Post by Northy on Mar 22, 2019 8:59:51 GMT
The are finalising the last chapter of the plan to ensure we don't leave, the treacherous bastards.
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Post by felonious on Mar 22, 2019 9:01:15 GMT
I think you'll find the disruptive element is found within the confines of the Ireland of Ireland. Constant arguments, lack of goodwill to power share and now the INLA are starting to kill (outside a school this week ) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped.
I'm well aware that it's been going on for over 40 years matey I was referring to the particular brand of troubles and politics from the two reprehensible parties that are the preference of the electorate in NI but you know that don't you?
The problem for NI is solely the issue of the people who vote these parties in. The SDLP always appeared a more intelligent voice and the Alliance party a better option but you get what you vote for.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
Yes.. I'm sure your suggestions are going to help things. š Let's talk about your ideas, I'm interested. |
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 22, 2019 9:02:27 GMT
The are finalising the last chapter of the plan to ensure we don't leave, the treacherous bastards. Itās been the case from the moment the country voted the āwrongā way Iām afraid. Unfortunately, the EU have had more than enough help from many in this country to achieve it. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 22, 2019 9:15:10 GMT
Yes.. I'm sure your suggestions are going to help things. š Let's talk about your ideas, I'm interested. Staying in the EU and honouring the GFA would be my idea. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 22, 2019 9:18:05 GMT
I think you'll find the disruptive element is found within the confines of the Ireland of Ireland. Constant arguments, lack of goodwill to power share and now the INLA are starting to kill (outside a school this week ) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped.Ā
I'm well aware that it's been going on for over 40 years matey I was referring to the particular brand of troubles and politics from the two reprehensible parties that are the preference of the electorate in NI but you know that don't you?
The problem for NI is solely the issue of the people who vote these parties in. The SDLP always appeared a more intelligent voice and the Alliance party a better option but you get what you vote for.
NI is part of Ireland and we can't keep paying forever for the mistakes of the past.
Werent the 6 counties part of pictland originally ? 9 counties in Ulster |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 22, 2019 9:28:02 GMT
German newspaper spelling out how much no deal will cost the German people.
Is this the, they need us as much as we need them, story that remainers dismissed or because it's the Germans talking we actually believe No Deal would damage the fragile German economy, which made it a very valuable negotiating tool. Or is this "Projekt Angst"
Anyway, it was a great plan to install a Brexiteer PM, who actually believed in Brexit, surrounded them self with a Brexiteer Chancellor and Business Secretary, in fact a Brexit cabinet and planned properly for No Deal, looks like we're going to get that great deal after all.............. oh hang on.
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) and maim again but who knows whether they actually stopped. 
