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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2019 20:16:43 GMT
And on and on and on, they will keep stalling until we get it right, fcuk that when MV3 is voted down yet again the only option should be a no deal Brexit time to stop fcuking us about, they are as always dictating fcuk the EU dictatorship go it alone or have we completely lost our national identity to the point where we all melt when any heat is applied, stop the betrayal and get on with getting us out of this shit German lead alliance. Haha. The EU are going to be the bad guys right to the end aren't they. Do you appreciate been dictated to by a drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated by FΓΌhrer Merkel and the lovable Macron ?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 20:18:46 GMT
Philippe Lamberts has just suggested in an interview on the BBC that if in the (inevitable) defeat of MV3, the EU will offer the UK a one month extension to come back with an alternative credible plan and then the EU will decide that if it is credible, then how much of a (long) extension should they give to get on with it. Do you think it's an inevitable defeat? I fancy it will be a tight call this time. MP's in Brexit constituencies (two thirds of them) can look their voters straight in the face and say 'we left'. And the short term damage will be minimal since we won't really leave for at least say 2 more years until the new trade arrangements with the EU are agreed. It's kind of leaving without leaving which is the next best thing to remaining which remains the only good deal on the table. You know, I like Michael Gove's analogy that many MP's are like a middle aged couple at a swingers party, hoping Scarlett Johansson will turn up, she ain't coming! It must have a chance as 2am approaches? I think she is really average.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2019 20:20:14 GMT
Acceptable to them, is what they mean. Corbyn has probably promised that to them today. Along with free unicorns and free use of the NHS as required.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2019 20:22:15 GMT
And on and on and on, they will keep stalling until we get it right, fcuk that when MV3 is voted down yet again the only option should be a no deal Brexit time to stop fcuking us about, they are as always dictating fcuk the EU dictatorship go it alone or have we completely lost our national identity to the point where we all melt when any heat is applied, stop the betrayal and get on with getting us out of this shit German lead alliance. Haha. The EU are going to be the bad guys right to the end aren't they. Looks like it fcuk em.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 20:24:03 GMT
Philippe Lamberts has just suggested in an interview on the BBC that if in the (inevitable) defeat of MV3, the EU will offer the UK a one month extension to come back with an alternative credible plan and then the EU will decide that if it is credible, then how much of a (long) extension should they give to get on with it. Do you think it's an inevitable defeat? I fancy it will be a tight call this time. MP's in Brexit constituencies (two thirds of them) can look their voters straight in the face and say 'we left'. And the short term damage will be minimal since we won't really leave for at least say 2 more years until the new trade arrangements with the EU are agreed. It's kind of leaving without leaving which is the next best thing to remaining which remains the only good deal on the table. You know, I like Michael Gove's analogy that many MP's are like a middle aged couple at a swingers party, hoping Scarlett Johansson will turn up, she ain't coming! It must have a chance as 2am approaches? Well there's rumours now that she's not going to need to get MV3 through next week to get her extension and she's going to be offered a six week unconditional extention. But in answer to your question though (and based on the March 29th deadline being still on the table) I think there's more chance that the defeat for MV3 would be greater than for MV2, than there would be of getting it through.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 20:25:41 GMT
Haha. The EU are going to be the bad guys right to the end aren't they. Do you appreciate beenΒ dictated toΒ by aΒ drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated byΒ FΓΌhrer Merkel and theΒ lovable MacronΒ ?Β Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 20:28:13 GMT
Do you appreciate beenΒ dictated toΒ by aΒ drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated byΒ FΓΌhrer Merkel and theΒ lovable MacronΒ ?Β Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Dennis Skinner.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 20:30:37 GMT
Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Dennis Skinner. π You'd need a Labour government first. Or a coalition government that I suggested immediately after the referendum.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2019 20:30:49 GMT
Do you appreciate been dictated to by a drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated by FΓΌhrer Merkel and the lovable Macron ? Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Donald Trump
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 21, 2019 20:32:59 GMT
Do you appreciate been dictated to by a drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated by FΓΌhrer Merkel and the lovable Macron ? Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? I only read the Sun I will have you know, Chicken is a fcuking coward who has sold us down the river and again the Don
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 20:39:04 GMT
Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Donald Trump Haha.. Yes of course. He's not a divisive leader at all is He? I was working in the US a few months ago and he's worse than Brexit for polarised opinions. π
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 21, 2019 21:05:36 GMT
Watching the BBC news channel and they are interviewing someone called Emma Burnell regarding Brexit. Apparently she represents Labour's Socialist Societies National Policy forum, anyway she say's she's so worried about Brexit she's stockpiled pasta and rice in her spare room. You really couldn't make this shit up but these people are wheeled out as serious commentators.
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 21, 2019 21:20:45 GMT
Do you appreciate beenΒ dictated toΒ by aΒ drunk from Luxembourg along with some maniac from Belgium orchestrated byΒ FΓΌhrer Merkel and theΒ lovable MacronΒ ?Β Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Since the Daily Mail went all Europhile you struggle to find a daily that's Eurosceptic, down to The Sun and the Express for the leavers. Considering the BBC and Sky are so biased it makes you wonder why so many of the UK population still want to leave
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 21:37:37 GMT
Watching the BBC news channel and they are interviewing someone called Emma Burnell regarding Brexit. Apparently she represents Labour's Socialist Societies National Policy forum, anyway she say's she's so worried about Brexit she's stockpiled pasta and rice in her spare room. You really couldn't make this shit up but these people are wheeled out as serious commentators. It's gone pasta joke, now.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 21:44:12 GMT
Listening to an Irish bloke on LBC and he reckons Northern Ireland is leaning towards voting for a United Ireland, anyway. He is also hinting at a return to violence if there's a hard border. Maybe the earlier comments weren't so harsh?
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:06:42 GMT
Somebody's been reading too much Daily Express. The UK commander-in-chief is really a cut above that lot isn't she? On that subject... who do you think should be leading our exit from the European Union? Since the Daily Mail went all Europhile you struggle to find a daily that's Eurosceptic, down to The Sun and the Express for the leavers. Considering the BBC and Sky are so biased it makes you wonder why so many of the UK population still want to leave Indeed.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 21, 2019 22:29:51 GMT
Donald Trump Haha.. Yes of course. He's not a divisive leader at all is He? I was working in the US a few months ago and he's worse than Brexit for polarised opinions. π the guy who thought starting a fight with a dead war hero in his press conference yesterday would make him look smart and assertive!!!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 22:31:05 GMT
Keunssberg: EU didn't believe May when she told them that MV3 would definitely go through next week, as a result, they've given her an unconditional three week extension.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:36:27 GMT
We've gone all WW2 now...
Underground bunkers for no-deal scenario.
NDA's for transport firms and port authorities.
I wondered what all those Stobart trucks were on the old railway site near Weildon road...
You mad Brexiteers have really started it haven't you.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 22:39:35 GMT
Keunssberg: EU didn't believe May when she told them that MV3 would definitely go through next week, as a result, they've given her an unconditional three week extension. Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:44:04 GMT
Keunssberg: EU didn't believe May when she told them that MV3 would definitely go through next week, as a result, they've given her an unconditional three week extension. Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed. They've had enough of May haven't they. They're quickly shifting sides and hoping for some new knight in shining armour to come and sort out this mess via a general election. They're crapping themselves about a no-deal.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 22:45:06 GMT
We've gone all WW2 now... Underground bunkers for no-deal scenario. NDA's for transport firms and port authorities. I wondered what all those Stobart trucks were on the old railway site near Weildon road... You mad Brexiteers have really started it haven't you. I don't believe a word of it.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:48:17 GMT
We've gone all WW2 now... Underground bunkers for no-deal scenario. NDA's for transport firms and port authorities. I wondered what all those Stobart trucks were on the old railway site near Weildon road... You mad Brexiteers have really started it haven't you. I don't believe a word of it. Give over tricky. I know you're into a conspiracy theory but go have a look at those trucks πππ
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 22:49:36 GMT
Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed. There had enough of May haven't they. They're quickly shifting sides and hoping for some new knight in shining armour to come and sort out this mess via a general election. They're crapping themselves about a no-deal. Step forward, Jezza, with your Even Less Like Brexit Than May's Brexit. They will probably go for that. Fucking hell fire, what a joke this all is.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 22:50:31 GMT
I don't believe a word of it. Give over tricky. I know you're into a conspiracy theory but go have a look at those trucks πππ Fucking hell, I bet you believe the Warren Commission, as well!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 22:54:43 GMT
Keunssberg: EU didn't believe May when she told them that MV3 would definitely go through next week, as a result, they've given her an unconditional three week extension. Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed. Direct quote from the EU: "The European Council will agree to an extension until the 22nd May 2019, provided the WA has been approved by the HOC next week. If the WA is not approved by the HOC next week, the European Council agrees on an extension until 12th April 2019 and expects the UK to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council." So there's Keunssberg's unconditional three week extension (it's actually two) but is it actually dependent on May HAVING MV3 NEXT WEEK or could she simply delay it to, say, April 11th now?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 22:57:09 GMT
Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed. Direct quote from the EU: "The European Council will agree to an extension until the 22nd May 2019, provided the WA has been approved by the HOC next week. If the WA is not approved by the HOC next week, the European Council agrees on an extension until 12th April 2019 and expects the UK to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council." So there's Keunssberg's unconditional three week extension but is it actually dependent on May HAVING MV3 NEXT WEEK or could she simply delay it to, say, April 11th now? Fuck knows!
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:57:21 GMT
There had enough of May haven't they. They're quickly shifting sides and hoping for some new knight in shining armour to come and sort out this mess via a general election. They're crapping themselves about a no-deal. Step forward, Jezza, with your Even Less Like Brexit Than May's Brexit. They will probably go for that. Fucking hell fire, what a joke this all is. Not a cat in hell' s chance that Labour get in. NEW Conservative leader (Rudd Mordaunt Gove) and a Norway2 deal.
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 21, 2019 22:59:24 GMT
Give over tricky. I know you're into a conspiracy theory but go have a look at those trucks πππ Fucking hell, I bet you believe the Warren Commission, as well! I don't believe anybody.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 23:04:27 GMT
Good if true - they should've done stopped believing a word she said after the original vote failed. Direct quote from the EU: "The European Council will agree to an extension until the 22nd May 2019, provided the WA has been approved by the HOC next week. If the WA is not approved by the HOC next week, the European Council agrees on an extension until 12th April 2019 and expects the UK to indicate a way forward before this date for consideration by the European Council." So there's Keunssberg's unconditional three week extension but is it actually dependent on May HAVING MV3 NEXT WEEK or could she simply delay it to, say, April 11th now? So it's about a five-week extension if the vote goes through, and around eight weeks if it doesn't. Fair point about her delaying it until the very last minute again - she probably fucking will. How long does it take to organise a general election? Is it six weeks - I seem to remember seeing that figure? Even at six weeks, it would mean a new government (presumably not led by May if the Tories win) would have two weeks to organise something - which is not a lot of time at all, without another extension. I don't really so how this extension helps that much if the WA doesn't get accepted, and that's even if she is allowed to bring the WA to vote again.
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