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Post by upthefud on Mar 21, 2019 17:02:33 GMT
SO breaking news is...
It’s May’s deal or no deal
And Bercow won’t allow another vote on May’s deal
I’m allowing myself to get excited for the first time in months!
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Mar 21, 2019 17:03:49 GMT
Maybe I'm putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5 but I've just seen a clip of Amber Rudd being doorstepped this morning. Recently she's been pretty tight lipped when getting in to her car but when asked what did she think of "the prime minister pitching MP's against the public in her speach", she replied ... "I don't see it like that, I think all MP'S have a responsibility and a need to make sure that we avoid no deal and we all should be trying to do that." Hang on sec, isn't this the same Amber Rudd who a fortnight ago was threatening to resign, along with Clarke and Gauke if 'no deal' wasn't taken off the table and now she's trying to use it as a stick to get MP'S to vote for MV3? I can't believe for a minute she'd be doing this if she genuinely thought it was a possibility, indeed wouldn't she now be going batshit mental if actually there was a genuine likelihood that it was about to happen it 8 days time? Hence the 2+2 = 5, has she already been assured of some alternative plan that is going to take place if/when MV3 goes down? For me Paul, the last thing that the EU and Parliament and the Government want is for us to leave with no deal' ( which for me has always been true Brexit) so it would not surprise me if something ( anything) is not pulled out of the hat if Parliament is not frightened into backing May's deal..... even if that something is complete disdain for the electorate who voted out. |
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 21, 2019 17:05:07 GMT
So let's leave on no deal then. Well MV3 isn't going to go through, so unless Macron is bluffing, that's what's going to happen. Of course, unless parliament revokes article 50 at the 11th hour. I imagine Ireland won't be so supportive of Macron's position - well, not without a bug bung to ease the pain. They might have thought more about the implications of their intransigence on the Irish border if they'd considered where thus may end up. |
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 21, 2019 17:09:05 GMT
SO breaking news is... It’s May’s deal or no deal And Bercow won’t allow another vote on May’s deal I’m allowing myself to get excited for the first time in months! Where've you heard this? Current possible outcome is that May can push another vote if she tweaks the content. If it's rejected, MPs can vote to either extend for God knows how long or even go nuclear and revoke Article 50. Let's just hope and pray that somehow, the EU don't grant us an extension in the next hour. |
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Post by starkiller on Mar 21, 2019 17:10:38 GMT
France is on fire. Theresa is fucking embarrassment, grovelling to this globalist twat.
And remoaners are the most bitter and pathetic losers in all history. Not an exaggeration.
Encouraged by a biased media.
Has any group of people in world history failed to accept and honour a democratic vote to such a ridiculous extent?
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Post by upthefud on Mar 21, 2019 17:13:39 GMT
SO breaking news is... It’s May’s deal or no deal And Bercow won’t allow another vote on May’s deal H I’m allowing myself to get excited for the first time in months! Where've you heard this? Current possible outcome is that May can push another vote if she tweaks the content. If it's rejected, MPs can vote to either extend for God knows how long or even go nuclear and revoke Article 50. Let's just hope and pray that somehow, the EU don't grant us an extension in the next hour. According the on the EU we can’t extend A50 past 22nd of May, based on the dead deal passing. No more extensions. So we get May’s deal and leave 22nd of May or no deal next week. That’s how I’m seeing it anyway |
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Post by Davef on Mar 21, 2019 17:16:57 GMT
SO breaking news is... It’s May’s deal or no deal And Bercow won’t allow another vote on May’s deal I’m allowing myself to get excited for the first time in months! Where've you heard this? Current possible outcome is that May can push another vote if she tweaks the content. If it's rejected, MPs can vote to either extend for God knows how long or even go nuclear and revoke Article 50. Let's just hope and pray that somehow, the EU don't grant us an extension in the next hour. MPs can vote to extend Article 50 for as long as they like, it won't make a blind bit of difference. Just like their nonsensical vote to take no deal off the table. If the EU 27 decide otherwise then there's nothing they can do about it. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 21, 2019 17:17:16 GMT
You can forget revocation, no chance of that. Absolutely none. Corbyn isn't ruling it out, according to The Guardian. Corbyn never rules anything out he still believes in free unicorns for students |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 17:19:27 GMT
France is on fire. Theresa is fucking embarrassment, grovelling to this globalist twat. I prefer the Will Grigg version - it fits better with the tune. |
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 21, 2019 17:19:55 GMT
Well MV3 isn't going to go through, so unless Macron is bluffing, that's what's going to happen. Of course, unless parliament revokes article 50 at the 11th hour. I imagine Ireland won't be so supportive of Macron's position - well, not without a bug bung to ease the pain. They might have thought more about the implications of their intransigence on the Irish border if they'd considered where thus may end up. The Irish will be forced to have a physical border if we leave without a deal , for all the posturing from the usual suspects in Brussels they will have to impose border controls. It makes a mockery of the commission imposing the backstop to avoid the border ensuring the deal won't be approved thereby having to build a border . And they are making May shoulder the blame for this fiasco when in fact they have been instrumental in creating it |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 17:20:50 GMT
Where've you heard this? Current possible outcome is that May can push another vote if she tweaks the content. If it's rejected, MPs can vote to either extend for God knows how long or even go nuclear and revoke Article 50. Let's just hope and pray that somehow, the EU don't grant us an extension in the next hour. According the on the EU we can’t extend A50 past 22nd of May, based on the dead deal passing. No more extensions. So we get May’s deal and leave 22nd of May or no deal next week. That’s how I’m seeing it anyway I think it's no extensions to 22nd May if May's deal passes. If it doesn't pass, I think we're none-the-wiser what will happen in terms of an extension. |
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Post by Davef on Mar 21, 2019 17:28:24 GMT
According the on the EU we can’t extend A50 past 22nd of May, based on the dead deal passing. No more extensions. So we get May’s deal and leave 22nd of May or no deal next week. That’s how I’m seeing it anyway I think it's no extensions to 22nd May if May's deal passes. If it doesn't pass, I think we're none-the-wiser what will happen in terms of an extension. If MP's vote for the Withdrawal Agreement then the Article 50 period is over and we then enter a transition period of god knows how long...don't we? |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 21, 2019 17:33:25 GMT
The armed forces have activated a team in a nuclear bunker under the Ministry of Defence to step up preparations for a no-deal Brexit, Sky News can reveal.
The crisis management operation - dubbed Operation Redfold - began on Monday and will further ramp up its activities from next week. [Sky news]
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 21, 2019 17:39:13 GMT
I think it's no extensions to 22nd May if May's deal passes. If it doesn't pass, I think we're none-the-wiser what will happen in terms of an extension. If MP's vote for the Withdrawal Agreement then the Article 50 period is over and we then enter a transition period of god knows how long...don't we? Isn't the transition period set to end in December next year ? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 21, 2019 17:40:40 GMT
I think it's no extensions to 22nd May if May's deal passes. If it doesn't pass, I think we're none-the-wiser what will happen in terms of an extension. If MP's vote for the Withdrawal Agreement then the Article 50 period is over and we then enter a transition period of god knows how long...don't we? I think if May's deal passes, then May and the EU have just agreed we will have an extension until May/June - at which point we will leave the EU and enter the transition period. That's how I understand it, but could well be wrong. |
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Post by ravey123 on Mar 21, 2019 18:12:31 GMT
So now we know there are shitloads of NDA gagging orders in place for no-deal.
Can only mean that the government have actually been planning for a no deal scenario
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Post by yeokel on Mar 21, 2019 18:28:25 GMT
Whichever way it goes you can still shit yourself My dad used to be a rep for a toilet roll manufacturer. He always said that “you couldn’t get nearer the bottom than him!”. Also, in Toilet Roll trivia..... Francis Lee (played for Man City in 1960’s & 70’s) used to own a toilet roll factory. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 18:31:21 GMT
Whichever way it goes you can still shit yourself My dad used to be a rep for a toilet roll manufacturer. He always said that “you couldn’t get nearer the bottom than him!”. Also, in Toilet Roll trivia..... Francis Lea (played for Man City in 1960’s & 70’s) used to own a toilet roll factory. Was he a bog standard midfielder? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 21, 2019 18:34:21 GMT
The armed forces have activated a team in a nuclear bunker under the Ministry of Defence to step up preparations for a no-deal Brexit, Sky News can reveal.
The crisis management operation - dubbed Operation Redfold - began on Monday and will further ramp up its activities from next week. [Sky news]
What are they expecting, Tim Farron done up like Rambo? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 18:38:00 GMT
I imagine Ireland won't be so supportive of Macron's position - well, not without a bug bung to ease the pain. They might have thought more about the implications of their intransigence on the Irish border if they'd considered where thus may end up. The Irish will be forced to have a physical border if we leave without a deal , for all the posturing from the usual suspects in Brussels they will have to impose border controls. It makes a mockery of the commission imposing the backstop to avoid the border ensuring the deal won't be approved thereby having to build a border . And they are making May shoulder the blame for this fiasco when in fact they have been instrumental in creating it So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? |
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Post by pearo on Mar 21, 2019 18:40:54 GMT
link a Link to the petition to revoke article 50 over 86000 since its start this morning in fact so many people wanted to sign it the government web site went down (now back up) So currently of 29 million of the electorate who didn’t vote Leave around 3% have signed a petition. WOW !! |
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Post by salopstick on Mar 21, 2019 18:44:34 GMT
link a Link to the petition to revoke article 50 over 86000 since its start this morning in fact so many people wanted to sign it the government web site went down (now back up) So currently of 29 million of the electorate who didn’t vote Leave around 3% have signed a petition. WOW !! Half of them are bots |
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 21, 2019 18:46:23 GMT
The Irish will be forced to have a physical border if we leave without a deal , for all the posturing from the usual suspects in Brussels they will have to impose border controls. It makes a mockery of the commission imposing the backstop to avoid the border ensuring the deal won't be approved thereby having to build a border . And they are making May shoulder the blame for this fiasco when in fact they have been instrumental in creating it So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? Not so much hard line brexiteers , the prime minister has stated we would try to use technology to avoid any infrastructure on the border .the EU have always said a border cannot be tolerated for reasons of security, Good Friday agreement, terrorism etc etc . The EU have then said it would be essential to install a border to preserve the single market in the event of a no deal. Breathtaking Hypocrisy from the commission |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 21, 2019 18:47:43 GMT
The Irish will be forced to have a physical border if we leave without a deal , for all the posturing from the usual suspects in Brussels they will have to impose border controls. It makes a mockery of the commission imposing the backstop to avoid the border ensuring the deal won't be approved thereby having to build a border . And they are making May shoulder the blame for this fiasco when in fact they have been instrumental in creating it So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? I can tell you one thing as a hard line brexiteer I don’t give two fucks if there is a hard boarder in irealand And I don’t know anyone who does And if there is a hard boarder it’s entirely the fault of Ireland for trying to play hard ball |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 21, 2019 18:48:24 GMT
The Irish will be forced to have a physical border if we leave without a deal , for all the posturing from the usual suspects in Brussels they will have to impose border controls. It makes a mockery of the commission imposing the backstop to avoid the border ensuring the deal won't be approved thereby having to build a border . And they are making May shoulder the blame for this fiasco when in fact they have been instrumental in creating it So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? Regardless of the political rhetoric it's 310 miles long with 208 crossing points. It's not practical for either side to secure it. |
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Post by robstokie on Mar 21, 2019 18:48:36 GMT
So currently of 29 million of the electorate who didn’t vote Leave around 3% have signed a petition. WOW !! Half of them are bots The other half are whiny little middle-class uni leftists who live in their own self-righteous bubbles. You know, the type who come up with concepts such as 'thought crimes' and 'micro-aggressions'... |
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Post by Davef on Mar 21, 2019 18:52:10 GMT
If MP's vote for the Withdrawal Agreement then the Article 50 period is over and we then enter a transition period of god knows how long...don't we? I think if May's deal passes, then May and the EU have just agreed we will have an extension until May/June - at which point we will leave the EU and enter the transition period. That's how I understand it, but could well be wrong. You're correct. If the WD is voted for then there will have to be legislation passed which won't be able to be completed by March 29th. Especially as the little ducks have their Easter recess.  |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 21, 2019 18:53:41 GMT
So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? I can tell you one thing as a hard line brexiteer I don’t give two fucks if there is a hard boarder in irealand And I don’t know anyone who does And if there is a hard boarder it’s entirely the fault of Ireland for trying to play hard ball You genuinely don't care about honouring the Good Friday Agreement? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 18:55:06 GMT
So you accept then, that those hard-line brexiteers who claim that there won't have to be a hard Irish border as a result of a no deal Brexit, are indeed telling porkies? I can tell you one thing as a hard line brexiteer I don’t give two fucks if there is a hard boarder in irealand And I don’t know anyone who does And if there is a hard boarder it’s entirely the fault of Ireland for trying to play hard ball Plenty of people do give a fuck, as it goes against the Good Friday Agreement, with potential ramifications beyond that..... |
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Post by salopstick on Mar 21, 2019 18:55:20 GMT
I can tell you one thing as a hard line brexiteer I don’t give two fucks if there is a hard boarder in irealand And I don’t know anyone who does And if there is a hard boarder it’s entirely the fault of Ireland for trying to play hard ball You genuinely don't care about honouring the Good Friday Agreement? Considering how they are treating veterans. (Not just Bloody Sunday) I couldn’t give two fucks about the GFA |
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