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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 7:52:10 GMT
Erm...I'll be in my nineties then..."youth". You were too young to vote in 2016 but you'll be in your nineties in 40 years time? Either your pants are on fire or you're a Cocker Spaniel.
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 7:53:46 GMT
Democracy indeed. Great to see so many people using their democratic right to campaign. Well Done to all. Yet those used their democratic right were painted thick and racist for doing so. Painted by whom? |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 7:54:17 GMT
Up to 700,000 people gave up their time to demonstrate against Brexit. 700,000 people. If just 700,000 people had voted the other way, the decision would have been different. It's no wonder the Brexit supporters don't fancy a second referendum. Shame a lot of them couldn't be arsed first time around. Or weren't allowed to vote first time around. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2018 8:01:53 GMT
Yet those used their democratic right were painted thick and racist for doing so. Painted by whom? The media. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2018 8:03:02 GMT
Shame a lot of them couldn't be arsed first time around. Or weren't allowed to vote first time around. The ones I referred to could vote, and did when promised free education. |
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Post by Kilo on Oct 21, 2018 9:09:37 GMT
You were too young to vote in 2016 but you'll be in your nineties in 40 years time? Either your pants are on fire or you're a Cocker Spaniel.
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. So you think all these groups that you've picked out should have got a vote (or at least the ones' that would vote remain) What about the one's who were born in Britain who are ninety years old but emmigrated to Australia when they were two years old? I suspect you will find a reason that they shouldn't get a vote as they're more likely to vote leave. How about all the illegal immigrants? You should add them to your list as I bet they'd vote in as well. In fact, why not give all Cocker Spaniels a vote as well while you're at it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2018 9:23:17 GMT
Judging by this video a solid proportion of that crowd aren’t eligible to vote anyway.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2018 9:35:03 GMT
It's patently obvious what's going on. The 80% of Remain MPs are getting together to make it "impossible" to make Brexit happen.
Then it will be batted back to the now not thick public to vote Remain.
Fucking transparent and pathetic.
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 21, 2018 9:45:48 GMT
It's patently obvious what's going on. The 80% of Remain MPs are getting together to make it "impossible" to make Brexit happen. Then it will be batted back to the now not thick public to vote Remain. Fucking transparent and pathetic. I think and hope you are right for once as it is Best for Britai :)n |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 9:58:35 GMT
It's patently obvious what's going on. The 80% of Remain MPs are getting together to make it "impossible" to make Brexit happen. Then it will be batted back to the now not thick public to vote Remain. Fucking transparent and pathetic. Dunna worry us real Conservatives are still battling to deliver ;-) Two things to look out for this week. May's been summoned to the 1922 Committee on Wednesday. Seems there are 46 letters of no confidence in and I'm assuming there will be the final two requisite letters sitting in front of her as she tries to save her job. Also, Steve Baker has added amendments to the Northern Ireland Bill which will effectively mean the EU's Irish Backstop idea would become illegal under UK law. It's very clever as it gives the NI assembly the final say so not something May could easily oppose if she's supporting devolved power and Labour have to either support the Government's bill in full or the amendments which stick two fingers up to the EU. Debate starts on Wednesday. |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 21, 2018 10:06:06 GMT
Nothing to stop Leavers organising a march but they wouldn't be able to agree which route it should take I thought marches are for protests / losers surely a victory parade is the correct terminology for anything leave organised  |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 21, 2018 10:35:13 GMT
More Brexit bollocks from the lovely Tories.
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 10:41:07 GMT
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. So you think all these groups that you've picked out should have got a vote (or at least the ones' that would vote remain) What about the one's who were born in Britain who are ninety years old but emmigrated to Australia when they were two years old? I suspect you will find a reason that they shouldn't get a vote as they're more likely to vote leave. How about all the illegal immigrants? You should add them to your list as I bet they'd vote in as well. In fact, why not give all Cocker Spaniels a vote as well while you're at it. Sigh. I chose two groups. UK nationals living in the EU, and EU nationals living in the UK - the people directly affected by a decision to leave the EU. Seems to me that they would like to have a say in their immediate and long-term future. Your comment about theoretical 90-year-old emigrants to Australia or elsewhere isn't really helpful or even relevant. But get this - "Commonwealth migrants from 54 states - including ÂAustralia, Canada, India, Pakistan and Nigeria - could join the electoral roll as long are they are residents in the UK. Unlike in general elections, Commonwealth citizens in Gibraltar were allowed to vote and have gone to the polls in the EU referendum." Why should people from other Commonwealth nations living in the UK but not EU27 nationals get to decide whether we stay in the EU or not? |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 10:48:00 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 11:04:18 GMT
Nothing to stop Leavers organising a march but they wouldn't be able to agree which route it should take We marched into the voting booths two and half years ago pal. Keep up. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 11:05:50 GMT
YOUTHQUAKE  I have to say if this had been a coach full of Leavers, social media would have been screaming GAMMON etc "They've stolen our future"  |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 11:10:32 GMT
Police talked about 150,000+ demonstrators......
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 21, 2018 11:17:36 GMT
Anyway.
A quiet interlude for the more discerning Labour voter. An interesting, if not a little lengthy, discussion on the Left and Brexit. An intellectual way to while away a few Sunday hours.....
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 11:24:54 GMT
Quite! But my main beef has been about the Brits in Europe and the Europeans in Britain who were obliged to sit on their backsides because no other option was open to them! Looking back over recent posts and my responses to them, I did give the impression that I was one of the younger generation who couldn't be bothered to vote in the referendum. Mea culpa. |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 21, 2018 11:57:20 GMT
You were too young to vote in 2016 but you'll be in your nineties in 40 years time? Either your pants are on fire or you're a Cocker Spaniel.
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. How can people who are not eligible to vote be prevented from missing out in a 'people's vote' or future elections? Shall we let everyone in the world vote, just in case they may move to the UK in the future? Maybe put some votes aside for those not born yet? |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2018 12:24:33 GMT
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. How can people who are not eligible to vote be prevented from missing out in a 'people's vote' or future elections? Shall we let everyone in the world vote, just in case they may move to the UK in the future? Maybe put some votes aside for those not born yet? Embryocist! |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 14:19:24 GMT
No. The op assumed I was too young to vote because I wasn't allowed to vote. Millions of people weren't allowed to vote because in 2016 they weren't living in the UK or they were born elsewhere in the EU but lived in the UK at the time of the referendum. That's one of the reasons why so many marched yesterday. How can people who are not eligible to vote be prevented from missing out in a 'people's vote' or future elections? Shall we let everyone in the world vote, just in case they may move to the UK in the future? Maybe put some votes aside for those not born yet? It is the matter of eligibility which is at the root of the debate. If those directly affected by the result now - not at sometime in the future as your post implies - have no say in it, then the result can be seen to be unrepresentative and consequently undemocratic. |
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Post by maxplonk on Oct 21, 2018 16:16:07 GMT
Well, some of them did allow themselves to be seen downing pints with Nigel "Ownyourshit" Farrage! Funny how you don't seeimages of Nige in pubs any more with the common man! |
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 21, 2018 16:21:37 GMT
Watching the Invictus games and two French guys pushed a injured Polish rider (achilles) for quite some distance to make sure he finished,shows what happens when you are all singing the same song  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 21, 2018 16:49:42 GMT
 Here it is, the EU-Singapore free trade agreement. All 8,000 pages of it. In negotiation since March 2010, signed yesterday, 19 October 2018. Anyone want to break the news to the disgraced former Defence Secretary that negotiating a trade deal is not as easy, nor as quick, as he thinks? |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 21, 2018 16:59:50 GMT
Well, some of them did allow themselves to be seen downing pints with Nigel "Ownyourshit" Farrage! Funny how you don't seeimages of Nige in pubs any more with the common man! He's too busy blowing Remainers out of the water on LBC. |
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Post by thevoid on Oct 21, 2018 17:03:42 GMT
Watching the Invictus games and two French guys pushed a injured Polish rider (achilles) for quite some distance to make sure he finished,shows what happens when you are all singing the same song You don't need to be tied to the EU to perform acts of decency. At least, I hope you don't. |
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 21, 2018 17:19:01 GMT
The MP who called it a shit-show was right. But he didn't mention it was partly that due to Clegg, Blair, Hesltine and co briefing the EU negotiators.
We need to park in the EEA/EFTA for 3-5 years before deciding exactly where we go from there.
EEA/EFTA allow us some control over free movement, exclusion from most EU laws and we would be free to strike Free Trade deals.
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 21, 2018 17:23:22 GMT
Aside from those forced to move abroad through work, why should those who have moved abroad to retire and enjoy cheap booze influence my future? If you have by choice given up on the country to move abroad why should you have a say in its future? I don’t see many ex pats in Australia or Canada demanding a say on UK affairs.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 21, 2018 17:44:37 GMT
Watching the Invictus games and two French guys pushed a injured Polish rider (achilles) for quite some distance to make sure he finished,shows what happens when you are all singing the same song Which song is that how to stop a German invasion |
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I have to say if this had been a coach full of Leavers, social media would have been screaming GAMMON etc
