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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 9, 2018 21:02:50 GMT
And we can, again!  At least we agree on 3 at the back! No we can't. Yes... three at the back though. Good lad.  In fairness, although I voted a different way, I think you make some valid points. I agree, people conflated various issues to vote the way they did. |
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 9, 2018 21:09:58 GMT
What makes me laugh about all this is the fact that Brexiteers for some insane reason think that life before the EU was some lovely Utopia of a fantastic economy, a thriving manufacturing base and some fanciful notion of all's right with the world and particularly Britannia. It's a nonsense ... The Great British public placed a "protest" vote. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong vote. I seem to remember we were known as the poor man of Europe before we joined the EU. |
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Oct 9, 2018 21:15:12 GMT
If the EU is so bad why is the UK currently encouraging Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Kosovo and Bosnia Herzegovina to join? Surely we should be encouraging them to stay out so that we can negotiate our own free trade deal with them and weaken the EU's strength?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 9, 2018 21:27:20 GMT
If the EU is so bad why is the UK currently encouraging Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, Kosovo and Bosnia Herzegovina to join? Surely we should be encouraging them to stay out so that we can negotiate our own free trade deal with them and weaken the EU's strength? I'm pretty sure the sales of deliahs bar even after relegation is not much less than the trade we do with these countries..... |
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Post by shangamuzo on Oct 10, 2018 12:12:19 GMT
What was the alternative, Small? To retain the status quo that many people felt was shafting them? Retain the status quo yes... And vote for your chosen party in a General Election on a given mandate. If that party was not to your choice you don't vote.. Perhaps start a new social democratic party? Dafter things have happened (see UKIP) The EU hasn't "shafted" the rank and file tricky.. The British Government(s) have. The establishment isn't the Remainers.. You and me and our children will see no noticeable improvement in our standard of living for the foreseeable future. We may see a negative actually. Look trickey.. you're a sensible bloke like me. Our people and class will have no discernible positives from this decision. We have isolated our tiny island once again. A small island that used to rule the world in commerce, industry, military and technology. Isolated bollocks you fuckin idiot. We'll be engaging with the rest of the world on trade deals that suit us-unfettered by EU regulations. |
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Post by 4372 on Oct 10, 2018 15:36:11 GMT
Who was it on this thread last week who said that you know the other side are losing the argument when they resort to personal abuse?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 11, 2018 7:11:03 GMT
Who was it on this thread last week who said that you know the other side are losing the argument when they resort to personal abuse? I'm guessing probably not a remainer who has spend the last two years crying that brexit voters are thick / racist / going to die soon |
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 11, 2018 7:58:43 GMT
Since when haven’t you been free? Maybe if you opened your eyes and looked at the good things the eu has brought us instead of the negatives constantly rolled out by the millionaire elite A lot on here have a bigoted view of the EU and refuse to see anything good about it,my yardstick is why do more countries want to join? is because "poor countries" who join do improve do well? i remember our street before we joined no parking problems now no room to park, i wonder where all the money came from ? Nothing to do with the EU. I remember starting at Wolstanton Grammar School in the 50s and there were just 2 cars parked on the road that runs along the front of the school, the Headmaster and 1 other. When I left to go to university in the mid 60s there was a long row, every teacher had a car. That was long before the EU, even before de Gaulle refused us entry. Individual wealth comes from the growth of the economy, whether you are rich, poor, of totally state dependent. The growth of our economy in the future will be faster outside of the EU. See this EU report which states 90% of future growth will be outside of EU: trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2013/april/tradoc_151052.pdfThis country needs to be best placed to take advantage of future world growth. Look at what is happening to our trade balance now: fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/ We have a massive trade deficit with the EU; they are bleeding us to death. Look at all the scare stories now about shortages when we leave. The reality is they are still going to sell whatever they can to us. We need to be more self sufficient and be less dependent on Europe and maximise the growth more with the growing countries like the old Commonwealth and BRIC countries. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/90-of-growth-will-be-outside-the-eu-and-brexit-will-give-britain-chance-to-benefit-htp2dm2bh |
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Post by 4372 on Oct 11, 2018 9:32:56 GMT
You are right.Not a Remainer.
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 11, 2018 10:06:45 GMT
A lot on here have a bigoted view of the EU and refuse to see anything good about it,my yardstick is why do more countries want to join? is because "poor countries" who join do improve do well? i remember our street before we joined no parking problems now no room to park, i wonder where all the money came from ? Nothing to do with the EU. I remember starting at Wolstanton Grammar School in the 50s and there were just 2 cars parked on the road that runs along the front of the school, the Headmaster and 1 other. When I left to go to university in the mid 60s there was a long row, every teacher had a car. That was long before the EU, even before de Gaulle refused us entry. Individual wealth comes from the growth of the economy, whether you are rich, poor, of totally state dependent. The growth of our economy in the future will be faster outside of the EU. See this EU report which states 90% of future growth will be outside of EU: trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2013/april/tradoc_151052.pdfThis country needs to be best placed to take advantage of future world growth. Look at what is happening to our trade balance now: fullfact.org/europe/uk-eu-trade/ We have a massive trade deficit with the EU; they are bleeding us to death. Look at all the scare stories now about shortages when we leave. The reality is they are still going to sell whatever they can to us. We need to be more self sufficient and be less dependent on Europe and maximise the growth more with the growing countries like the old Commonwealth and BRIC countries. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/90-of-growth-will-be-outside-the-eu-and-brexit-will-give-britain-chance-to-benefit-htp2dm2bh We disagree. |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 11, 2018 10:23:20 GMT
quite simple really if you live next door to a bit of a cunt do you stop talking to him or do you engage with him and put your side thus hopefully coming to mutual agreement? what we have done has told him to piss off and hes not having his lawn mower back.
another concern of mine is that all major investment in this area[Staffordshire] has been backed with eu money eg trentam lakes,etrurua development.when does our government spend any money here? not since the blair government when they finally knocked down crumbling schools to build new ones and finally giving the goahead for the uhns to be built.this government has spent fuck all up here but have found the cash to build new underground tube links in the capital hs2 and now they are going to build another tunnel under the thames.
anybody knows me already knows that I am allright jack but I do have genuine fears for the direction my country is taking.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 11, 2018 10:40:55 GMT
quite simple really if you live next door to a bit of a cunt do you stop talking to him or do you engage with him and put your side thus hopefully coming to mutual agreement? what we have done has told him to piss off and hes not having his lawn mower back. another concern of mine is that all major investment in this area[Staffordshire] has been backed with eu money eg trentam lakes,etrurua development.when does our government spend any money here? not since the blair government when they finally knocked down crumbling schools to build new ones and finally giving the goahead for the uhns to be built.this government has spent fuck all up here but have found the cash to build new underground tube links in the capital hs2 and now they are going to build another tunnel under the thames. anybody knows me already knows that I am allright jack but I do have genuine fears for the direction my country is taking. I thought you lived in Thailand. |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 11, 2018 12:02:16 GMT
quite simple really if you live next door to a bit of a cunt do you stop talking to him or do you engage with him and put your side thus hopefully coming to mutual agreement? what we have done has told him to piss off and hes not having his lawn mower back. another concern of mine is that all major investment in this area[Staffordshire] has been backed with eu money eg trentam lakes,etrurua development.when does our government spend any money here? not since the blair government when they finally knocked down crumbling schools to build new ones and finally giving the goahead for the uhns to be built.this government has spent fuck all up here but have found the cash to build new underground tube links in the capital hs2 and now they are going to build another tunnel under the thames. anybody knows me already knows that I am allright jack but I do have genuine fears for the direction my country is taking. There is no EU money its actually our money that they decide how we can spend. By the way there is a correlation between the new schools, hospitals and this government spending fuck all, that's because this government is actually having to pay for all the ludicrous PFI contracts Labour built all these thingds with. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 11, 2018 12:26:19 GMT
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Post by capto on Oct 11, 2018 15:22:54 GMT
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 11, 2018 17:23:17 GMT
I see Patisserie Valerie is in dire straits,how many have gone to the wall since the Brexit referendum ?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Oct 11, 2018 17:30:29 GMT
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Post by sharpy on Oct 11, 2018 17:38:23 GMT
I see Patisserie Valerie is in dire straits,how many have gone to the wall since the Brexit referendum ?
The stark statement to investors comes after the firm uncovered "significant, and potentially fraudulent, accounting irregularities".
Second paragraph, aint hard is it.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 11, 2018 17:48:54 GMT
I see Patisserie Valerie is in dire straits,how many have gone to the wall since the Brexit referendum ? have been hit hard by Brexit in the same way apparently. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 11, 2018 18:03:33 GMT
I see Patisserie Valerie is in dire straits,how many have gone to the wall since the Brexit referendum ?
The stark statement to investors comes after the firm uncovered "significant, and potentially fraudulent, accounting irregularities".
Second paragraph, aint hard is it.
Exactly. Even the BBC (Bash Brexiteers Constantly) have not used the B word in regards to this. Paraphrasing what they have said is that at best PV have a negligent, at worst a bent FD, who can't reconcile a cash book to a bank statement. |
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Post by skemstokie on Oct 11, 2018 18:12:29 GMT
I see Patisserie Valerie is in dire straits,how many have gone to the wall since the Brexit referendum ? The stark statement to investors comes after the firm uncovered "significant, and potentially fraudulent, accounting irregularities". Second paragraph, aint hard is it.
The question was how many companies have gone under since June 2016? |
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Post by sharpy on Oct 11, 2018 18:17:42 GMT
It`s not an argument i`m making, that`s for you to go through the details of i would presume 1000`s, then report back here with your findings.
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 11, 2018 20:17:56 GMT
The stark statement to investors comes after the firm uncovered "significant, and potentially fraudulent, accounting irregularities". Second paragraph, aint hard is it.
The question was how many companies have gone under since June 2016? It's newsworthy because a London centric company has gone tits up, seemingly due to mismanagament. Woolworths went bump pre-Brexit with the loss of 27,000 staff. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Oct 12, 2018 8:22:17 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 12, 2018 8:46:50 GMT
The stark statement to investors comes after the firm uncovered "significant, and potentially fraudulent, accounting irregularities".
Second paragraph, aint hard is it.
Exactly. Even the BBC (Bash Brexiteers Constantly) have not used the B word in regards to this. Paraphrasing what they have said is that at best PV have a negligent, at worst a bent FD, who can't reconcile a cash book to a bank statement. Brexit strikes again  |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 12, 2018 11:38:12 GMT
Exactly. Even the BBC (Bash Brexiteers Constantly) have not used the B word in regards to this. Paraphrasing what they have said is that at best PV have a negligent, at worst a bent FD, who can't reconcile a cash book to a bank statement. Brexit strikes again Looks like Sears is going to be bought down by Brexit too |
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Post by felonious on Oct 12, 2018 11:39:38 GMT
The question was how many companies have gone under since June 2016? It's newsworthy because a London centric company has gone tits up, seemingly due to mismanagament. Woolworths went bump pre-Brexit with the loss of 27,000 staff. That must have been the EU's fault then. |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 12, 2018 11:42:19 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 12, 2018 14:25:35 GMT
Surprised none of the Remoaners have posted this up yet... LONDON (Reuters) - Britain has extended its lead in the global currency trading business in the two years since it voted to leave the European Union, in another sign London is likely to continue to be one of the world’s top two financial centres even after Brexit.
Leaving the European Union was supposed to deal a crippling blow to London’s position in global finance, prompting a mass exodus of jobs and business. But with eight months to go, London has tightened rather than weakened its grip on foreign exchange trading, a Reuters analysis shows. |
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Post by capto on Oct 12, 2018 16:41:08 GMT
share.trin.cam.ac.uk/sites/public/Comms/Rogers_brexit_as_revolution.pdf1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie?
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At least we agree on 3 at the back!
In fairness, although I voted a different way, I think you make some valid points. I agree, people conflated various issues to vote the way they did. 
