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Post by capto on Oct 4, 2018 21:15:11 GMT
Have you signed to attend the BEST pro-EU march yet? ow.ly/dB4s30m6kfk Have your friends and family signed up to attend? RT so that they know about the #PeoplesVote March too!
1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership
2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population.
3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies
4. Ask the question - why would they lie?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2018 21:27:32 GMT
People are really getting desperate now. Yes, it does look like it. Tell you what, it'd be nice to have 8,000 well paid Nissan jobs to potentially loose around Stoke on Trent. What are they going to threaten us Stokies with instead? Take away our minimum paid tin shed distribution/order picking jobs? |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 4, 2018 22:24:41 GMT
Oggy, you really are getting desperate aren’t you! No, I can’t tell you about Brussels 2 regs or reciprocity of judgements. In common with virtually everyone else, I cast my vote and then trust the politicians and officials to deal with the small print. In the same spirit, can you tell me which will be the next country to join the EU, with whom will the EU sign its next trade deal, which is likely to be the next Eurozone country requiring a bailout or how many non EU nationals will the Germans invite over to Europe next year to be shared evenly among us all. NO, of course you can’t. And if you cannot answer those questions, you don’t know what the remain vote was for. Arguments like that can go on for ever. When you voted Liberal in the 2010 General Election, did you vote that way so that the Liberals would form a coalition with the Conservative party because Clegg didn’t like Brown, or that the Libs would vote for the raising of university student tuition fees to £9000 per year after they specifically promised to oppose any rise. NO, of course you didn’t. You cast your vote in the way you saw fit at the time and then observed how it all panned out. You trusted the politicians and the officials to do the right thing. That’s the way it works, so why don’t you knock it off with this idiotic “what sort of Brexit did you vote for?” circular argument and come up with something new? In answer to your questions: I knew it was possible that when voting lib dem they could form part of a coalition. Surely everyone knows that may happen when you vote!? I knew the best chance of the lib dems getting any power is in a coalition and I am pleased they took one for the country because we have now seen what an unencumbered Tory government does. The coalition were far more centre than right wing. The lib dems had no choice but to vote with the Tory government for the tuition fees vote. Otherwise they have to resign. It’s how being in government works. Look at Boris Johnson and David Davis’ resignations. You vote with the government if you are a minister. Surely you know that!? Back to brexit, did you or did you not vote for a hard border in Ireland? You’re not sure yet! It is to be seen! Or is that the type of ‘small print’ you are referring to that can be sorted out however MPs like later on!? Like fuck you did  . Also the Lib Dems 'won't raise tuition fees' was a promise, the blurb on the bus wasn't. |
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 4, 2018 23:16:26 GMT
SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: "With the industry given barely a year to reapprove the entire European model line-up, it's no surprise that we've seen bottlenecks and a squeeze on supply. "These are exceptional circumstances, with similar declines seen in other major European markets. The good news is that, as backlogs ease, consumers and businesses can look forward to a raft of exciting high-tech cars and a market keen to recover lost momentum." Alex Buttle, director of car-buying comparison website Motorway.co.uk, said the figures would send "shock waves" through the motor industry. He added: "We are now entering a crucial and unprecedented period for the car industry, as the next new number plate will be March 2019, when the UK is due to leave the EU. "It's likely to be a rollercoaster ride for new car sales figures for the foreseeable future, but it feels like we have just plunged into a deep canyon." Funny how you manage to reproduce one comment from a story, (which just happens to back up your argument) and call the story a half-truth. The full account (presented in the very next paragraph) hints that at the very least some other people in the car industry are worried about Brexit. I put a link to the whole story, original poster said slump in sales was down to brexit, I was being generous calling it a half truth its a barefaced lie. People in the car industry might be worried about brexit that however has nothing to do with a fall in sales. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 5, 2018 9:29:52 GMT
I remember this one being posted on here by the Remoaners a while back. Oh dear...
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Post by pearo on Oct 5, 2018 10:11:11 GMT
Project fear is falling apart faster than a Matalan shirt, the Remainers are in disarray, the spirit of Lord Nelson and Churchill lives on.
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Post by starkiller on Oct 5, 2018 10:55:42 GMT
Have you signed to attend the BEST pro-EU march yet? ow.ly/dB4s30m6kfk Have your friends and family signed up to attend? RT so that they know about the #PeoplesVote March too! 1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership 2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population. 3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies 4. Ask the question - why would they lie? People's vote, my arse. Soros's vote more like. This campaign is so obviously establishment run, it is embarrassing. Where were all the people's votes when treaty after treaty signed our sovereignty away, with no public say? Not only were these treaties not in party manifestos, their details were actively hidden from the public. There was great concern amongst those aware for decades and promises of referendums for 20 years. The Brexit vote was no shock. The British public has had enough, despite insidious brainwashing of millennials in supposed education establishments about the EU for many years. Since it bears no resemblance to what it was in the 70s and no-one knows its endgame,the EU is dangerous. Very dangerous indeed. Unless Remoaners can fully explain the endgame of the EU, they didn't know what they were voting for. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 5, 2018 13:29:46 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 5, 2018 13:44:26 GMT
No not really if he removes bollocks he can leave it up there, surprised he has the money for posters though now he has to start paying his staff properly |
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Post by 3putts on Oct 5, 2018 14:05:32 GMT
Car sales slump 20%. It must be project fear......oh no wait, it’s simply a hard fact. Good old brexit, boosting our economy (potentially in 50 years time according to JR moggy but his financial projections are accurate unlike all those damned professional economists and business leaders who project brexit to be bad!) Since 1 September, all cars sold in the EU have had to undergo a new test known as the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure. This has replaced all existing tests of emissions and fuel economy and has caused carmakers to struggle to cope. SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: "With the industry given barely a year to reapprove the entire European model line-up, it's no surprise that we've seen bottlenecks and a squeeze on supply. "These are exceptional circumstances, with similar declines seen in other major European markets. The good news is that, as backlogs ease, consumers and businesses can look forward to a raft of exciting high-tech cars and a market keen to recover lost momentum." Project half-truth as always, looks like the EU is to blame better off out yup those nasty eu members meddling with our motors, who wants less polluting cars anyway |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 5, 2018 14:08:09 GMT
No not really if he removes bollocks he can leave it up there, surprised he has the money for posters though now he has to start paying his staff properly It doesn't appear to be the language that is the problem. It's the fact that the sign, according to the council, doesn't relate to his business - and he says Brexit does relate to his business. |
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Post by Davef on Oct 5, 2018 14:53:06 GMT
Car sales slump 20%. It must be project fear......oh no wait, it’s simply a hard fact. Good old brexit, boosting our economy (potentially in 50 years time according to JR moggy but his financial projections are accurate unlike all those damned professional economists and business leaders who project brexit to be bad!) Since 1 September, all cars sold in the EU have had to undergo a new test known as the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure. This has replaced all existing tests of emissions and fuel economy and has caused carmakers to struggle to cope. SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: "With the industry given barely a year to reapprove the entire European model line-up, it's no surprise that we've seen bottlenecks and a squeeze on supply. "These are exceptional circumstances, with similar declines seen in other major European markets. The good news is that, as backlogs ease, consumers and businesses can look forward to a raft of exciting high-tech cars and a market keen to recover lost momentum." Project half-truth as always, looks like the EU is to blame better off out So do you think that when the UK leaves the EU, it won't be subject to worldwide vehicle standards or regulations? How do you think we will be able to sell vehicles if we decide we're only going to build them to specifications and standards that we decide on? The European Union adopts these regulations, it doesn't set them. |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 5, 2018 15:00:42 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45743771Since 1 September, all cars sold in the EU have had to undergo a new test known as the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure. This has replaced all existing tests of emissions and fuel economy and has caused carmakers to struggle to cope. SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: "With the industry given barely a year to reapprove the entire European model line-up, it's no surprise that we've seen bottlenecks and a squeeze on supply. "These are exceptional circumstances, with similar declines seen in other major European markets. The good news is that, as backlogs ease, consumers and businesses can look forward to a raft of exciting high-tech cars and a market keen to recover lost momentum." Project half-truth as always, looks like the EU is to blame better off out So do you think that when the UK leaves the EU, it won't be subject to worldwide vehicle standards or regulations? How do you think we will be able to sell vehicles if we decide we're only going to build them to specifications and standards that we decide on? The European Union adopts these regulations, it doesn't set them. We tried it once before mate , it was called the Austin Alegro |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 5, 2018 15:20:24 GMT
So do you think that when the UK leaves the EU, it won't be subject to worldwide vehicle standards or regulations? How do you think we will be able to sell vehicles if we decide we're only going to build them to specifications and standards that we decide on? The European Union adopts these regulations, it doesn't set them. We tried it once before mate , it was called the Austin Alegro And to make it extra quirky we gave it a square steering wheel  |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 5, 2018 15:32:00 GMT
We tried it once before mate , it was called the Austin Alegro And to make it extra quirky we gave it a square steering wheel It was the point I realized my dad had lost the plot when he traded in his yellow Capri to buy one of them  |
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Post by capto on Oct 5, 2018 16:58:08 GMT
@skynews Manual workers 'at greatest risk' from Brexit
Liz Webster 🔶 🏴 🇪🇺 #FBPE John Major told Leveson, Murdoch had pressured him over EU when he was PM, that his papers wld oppose Tory gov if Major did not alter policy. As Mr Major later put it: ‘he made no mention of editorial independence, but referred to all his papers as ‘we’.’
The EconomistVerified account @theeconomist The average adult migrant from the European Economic Area yielded £2,370 more for the Treasury in 2017 than the average British-born adult did
1. For every £1.00 (0.6% of GDP) we contribute to the EU, the country earns over £10 from membership
2. For every £10 the UK earns, 82%, so £8-20 goes to the top 1% of the population.
3. Everything quitters, leavers, brexiteers, far-right, MSM etc you about the EU is lies
4. Ask the question - why would they lie?
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Post by followyoudown on Oct 5, 2018 22:18:49 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45743771Since 1 September, all cars sold in the EU have had to undergo a new test known as the Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure. This has replaced all existing tests of emissions and fuel economy and has caused carmakers to struggle to cope. SMMT chief executive Mike Hawes said: "With the industry given barely a year to reapprove the entire European model line-up, it's no surprise that we've seen bottlenecks and a squeeze on supply. "These are exceptional circumstances, with similar declines seen in other major European markets. The good news is that, as backlogs ease, consumers and businesses can look forward to a raft of exciting high-tech cars and a market keen to recover lost momentum." Project half-truth as always, looks like the EU is to blame better off out So do you think that when the UK leaves the EU, it won't be subject to worldwide vehicle standards or regulations? How do you think we will be able to sell vehicles if we decide we're only going to build them to specifications and standards that we decide on? The European Union adopts these regulations, it doesn't set them. To deal with your last point it seems you think the EU had no say in the setting of the standards or whether to adopt them in which case not much point being part of the EU then  My point was to blame the 20% slump in sales on brexit was a clear untruth, the rest was really just a throwaway little joke, but to answer your questions of course we will have to meet the standards and regulations for any market we want to sell goods into just the same as now or the goods won't be able to be sold. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 6:55:58 GMT
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Post by Northy on Oct 6, 2018 8:14:37 GMT
Whose woken up Juncker this morning, George Soros?
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Post by 4372 on Oct 6, 2018 11:09:41 GMT
That cartoon of the brain that you posted gordonsbank. Seemed that you were suggesting that people who voted Remain had no functioning brain. I am trying to recall who the poster was on this forum who suggested last weekend that just over 17 million people represented 52% of the UK population.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2018 12:31:24 GMT
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Post by Kilo on Oct 6, 2018 14:14:04 GMT
Correct, because the referendum was only consultative the Prime Minister at the time made it quite clear (on numerous occasions) that the Government WOULD honour the result. It's a shame that all the remoaners don't understand that.... or what it said on the side of a bus.... or that the winner of an election/referendum is the side with most votes but at least they're not thickie, racists eh?
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Post by 4372 on Oct 6, 2018 21:24:03 GMT
"We send the EU £350 million pound a week.
let's fund our NHS instead"
Which bit of that slogan do you think people misunderstood?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:31:34 GMT
That cartoon of the brain that you posted gordonsbank. Seemed that you were suggesting that people who voted Remain had no functioning brain. I am trying to recall who the poster was on this forum who suggested last weekend that just over 17 million people represented 52% of the UK population. It was actually 51.89% not 52% of the British public (including Gibraltar) who bothered Cast a vote that represented the UK populous. That said it was the largest turnout for a vote in UK history. So well done to democracy and all those who never turn out at general elections for bothering to cast a vote when normally they show no interest. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 21:40:39 GMT
"We send the EU £350 million pound a week. let's fund our NHS instead" Which bit of that slogan do you think people misunderstood? Where in that slogan did it say let's spend £350 million extra on the NHS? Also they were in no position to commit to any promise as they were not in government. It was a mere suggestion. I understand that why don't you? |
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Post by 4372 on Oct 6, 2018 21:51:40 GMT
Err. in the first and second line... The difference is that I, and many Remainers, saw the slogan for the propaganda it was. It never played any part in deciding my vote, except to shore up my view that the man on the bus was on untrustworthy charlatan, and certainly not to be trusted with my vote. I was actually more disappointed in Gisela Stuart than Boris. I never expected any better from him.
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Post by pearo on Oct 6, 2018 22:06:00 GMT
"We send the EU £350 million pound a week. let's fund our NHS instead" Which bit of that slogan do you think people misunderstood? None of it, and as Junker and Tusk have acknowledged in the last few days the final solution is upon us. |
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Post by numpty40 on Oct 6, 2018 22:15:31 GMT
Err. in the first and second line... The difference is that I, and many Remainers, saw the slogan for the propaganda it was. It never played any part in deciding my vote, except to shore up my view that the man on the bus was on untrustworthy charlatan, and certainly not to be trusted with my vote. I was actually more disappointed in Gisela Stuart than Boris. I never expected any better from him. The first line was a fact the second line was a suggestion. Even a thicko like me realised that. |
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Post by 4372 on Oct 6, 2018 23:04:34 GMT
You are most definitely not a thicko, and not is anyone else on here. The bus was pure propaganda, designed to get people to think and vote in a certain way. It is casuistry worthy of a Jesuit confessor to suggest that the poster was not designed to get people to associate leaving the EU with more funding for the NHs.
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Post by sharpy on Oct 6, 2018 23:39:57 GMT
Even if that was the subliminal message or pure propaganda would it not be a bad thing to be able to put money into our over stretched NHS ?.
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