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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 7:36:03 GMT
Yes. Big bad Brexit. The root cause of all our ills. Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. It's OK, a blind ignorance to the facts will see us through.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 7:58:52 GMT
Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. It's OK, a blind ignorance to the facts will see us through. What facts are those? You are aware that net migration continues to be positive? In other words more people still arrive in the UK than leave. As it has in every year since Brexit (and long before). Knicker wetting has, of course, massively expanded since Brexit. As has the number of wet lettuces in Britain.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 8:04:09 GMT
It's OK, a blind ignorance to the facts will see us through. What facts are those? You are aware that net migration continues to be positive? In other words more people still arrive in the UK than leave. As it has in every year since Brexit (and long before). Knicker wetting has, of course, massively expanded since Brexit. As has the number of wet lettuces in Britain. Difficult to know where to begin. Start with the trade figures.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:07:34 GMT
Yes. Big bad Brexit. The root cause of all our ills. Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Imagine all the stuff our government could be doing if it wasn’t wasting resources endlessly negotiating brexit and focusing on Northern Ireland. Imagine what laws they could be passing if civil servants weren’t being told they had to rewrite all of our retained EU laws to say the same thing, but to derive from domestic law? Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 8:10:17 GMT
Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Imagine all the stuff our government could be doing if it wasn’t wasting resources endlessly negotiating brexit and focusing on Northern Ireland. Imagine what laws they could be passing if civil servants weren’t being told they had to rewrite all of our retained EU laws to say the same thing, but to derive from domestic law? Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that Brexit was never going to work without trashing the GFA? It was patently obvious from the very start.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:12:21 GMT
What facts are those? You are aware that net migration continues to be positive? In other words more people still arrive in the UK than leave. As it has in every year since Brexit (and long before). Knicker wetting has, of course, massively expanded since Brexit. As has the number of wet lettuces in Britain. Difficult to know where to begin. Start with the trade figures. Go on then.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:15:57 GMT
Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. Why is it so difficult for people to understand that Brexit was never going to work without trashing the GFA? It was patently obvious from the very start. Not at all. It needed Britain to resist the calls for border controls. Instead, because we had a feeble Government led by Theresa May being constantly undermined by Remoaners the EU felt empowered to impose an absurd resolution that in itself contradicted the Good Friday agreement. So, we are where we are. We have a big problem. And it needs fixing.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 17, 2022 8:19:21 GMT
It's OK, a blind ignorance to the facts will see us through. Knicker wetting has, of course, massively expanded since Brexit. As has the number of wet lettuces in Britain. As has the number of rotting lettuces....and beetroots etc!
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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 8:23:47 GMT
Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Imagine all the stuff our government could be doing if it wasn’t wasting resources endlessly negotiating brexit and focusing on Northern Ireland. Imagine what laws they could be passing if civil servants weren’t being told they had to rewrite all of our retained EU laws to say the same thing, but to derive from domestic law? Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. It is a non issue if we don’t have brexit. It is a non issue if the rest of the UK followed Northern Ireland (which is the most sensible solution but will never happen with this government). Otherwise, you are absolutely right. It is incredibly tough to resolve in its current format. One thing I am certain of is that this government do not want a solution because the more brexit is in the press, the better for Johnson’s poll ratings amongst the right of his party and brexiteers (even though his deal caused all these problems!). Why else is Starmer utterly silent about any brexit related issues?
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:24:09 GMT
Knicker wetting has, of course, massively expanded since Brexit. As has the number of wet lettuces in Britain. As has the number of rotting lettuces....and beetroots etc! Beetroot? Does anyone like that stuff. Better left in the ground. Along with turnips and swedes.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 8:25:23 GMT
Why is it so difficult for people to understand that Brexit was never going to work without trashing the GFA? It was patently obvious from the very start. Not at all. It needed Britain to resist the calls for border controls. Instead, because we had a feeble Government led by Theresa May being constantly undermined by Remoaners the EU felt empowered to impose an absurd resolution that in itself contradicted the Good Friday agreement. So, we are where we are. We have a big problem. And it needs fixing. Don’t blame May! She completely saw this coming and has been utterly vindicated. Her words were that no British PM could ever willingly impose a border down the Irish Sea….step up Boris Johnson! Also this wasn’t the EU’s solution. It is what we wanted. I’m sure the EU would have preferred we were members of the single market. Much simpler and makes better financial sense for all too. We chose this. It is our mess.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 8:25:49 GMT
As has the number of rotting lettuces....and beetroots etc! Beetroot? Does anyone like that stuff. Better left in the ground. Along with turnips and swedes. That’s about all we grow here…
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:27:18 GMT
Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. It is a non issue if we don’t have brexit. It is a non issue if the rest of the UK followed Northern Ireland (which is the most sensible solution but will never happen with this government). Otherwise, you are absolutely right. It is incredibly tough to resolve in its current format. One thing I am certain of is that this government do not want a solution because the more brexit is in the press, the better for Johnson’s poll ratings amongst the right of his party and brexiteers (even though his deal caused all these problems!). Why else is Starmer utterly silent about any brexit related issues? I do agree with you on that last point. Johnson loves chest thumping opportunities like Brexit and Ukraine. Or anything that detracts from his feeble performance on domestic issues where he appears clueless.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 17, 2022 8:29:20 GMT
Not all, but it is making our lives much more expensive, and causing huge problems in Northern Ireland. Imagine all the stuff our government could be doing if it wasn’t wasting resources endlessly negotiating brexit and focusing on Northern Ireland. Imagine what laws they could be passing if civil servants weren’t being told they had to rewrite all of our retained EU laws to say the same thing, but to derive from domestic law? Ironically, Northern Ireland is benefiting from the protocol because of access to the single market, in comparison to the rest of the UK. The obvious sensible economic solution to protocol problems is that Great Britain follow the protocol too, and we would all benefit. Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. Northern Ireland trade with the EU is indeed a tough issue, created by Brexit.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:29:59 GMT
Not at all. It needed Britain to resist the calls for border controls. Instead, because we had a feeble Government led by Theresa May being constantly undermined by Remoaners the EU felt empowered to impose an absurd resolution that in itself contradicted the Good Friday agreement. So, we are where we are. We have a big problem. And it needs fixing. Don’t blame May! She completely saw this coming and has been utterly vindicated. Her words were that no British PM could ever willingly impose a border down the Irish Sea….step up Boris Johnson! Also this wasn’t the EU’s solution. It is what we wanted. I’m sure the EU would have preferred we were members of the single market. Much simpler and makes better financial sense for all too. We chose this. It is our mess. Sorry pal… I hold May, the Remainiacs and the EU fully accountable for the Northern Ireland mess.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 8:41:41 GMT
Difficult to know where to begin. Start with the trade figures. Go on then. Been highlighted here on many occasions. We were lied to about an advisory referendum that produced a slim majority and was hijacked by Russian interference. Go figure yourself. Oh and...
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2022 8:42:07 GMT
Brexit has caused a labour shortage, combined with the idiotic government choosing to not give free covid tests to companies, meaning costs for businesses are spiralling and inflation increasing as a result. Knock on effects are higher food prices for example. Another brexit bonus. Yes. Big bad Brexit. The root cause of all our ills. Brexit is so bad inflafion in the USA and New Zealand for two is even higher than the UK its almost like something else might be behind it like I don't much of the world shutting down their economies on and off during the last 2 years cutting capacity to match demand and then when they try and ramp it up finding out people have taken more secure jobs but yeah its probably brexit.....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 8:45:44 GMT
Yes. Big bad Brexit. The root cause of all our ills. Brexit is so bad inflafion in the USA and New Zealand for two is even higher than the UK its almost like something else might be behind it like I don't much of the world shutting down their economies on and off during the last 2 years cutting capacity to match demand and then when they try and ramp it up finding out people have taken more secure jobs but yeah its probably brexit..... Funny how you and Partick slag off Essex over his spelling, yet you can barely mange to punctuate. Talk about hypocrisy eh?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 8:47:21 GMT
Northern Ireland is such a tough issue. You have to bring both sides of the divide with you. Even when both sides of the divide are bams. I see in recent days saying the majority view should apply, but that is demonstrates an incredibly ignorant understanding of Northern Ireland albeit, of course, the majority now works against the unionists. Which while that might be a touch ironic, doesn’t negate the principles behind the Good Friday Agreement that a majority view will not be imposed on an unwilling minority. So, if the protocol isn’t acceptable to the unionists, another solution must be found. I’m rather hoping the UK Government and the EU can figure out a solution to the substantial challenge of keeping both unionists and republicans onside. This festering sore has never been satisfactorily addressed. It’s just been kicked down the road. Which, I guess, is consistent with Irish politics for a very long time. Northern Ireland trade with the EU is indeed a tough issue, created by Brexit. The great news for the Irish Republican movement is that they are soon to get their country back. Good old spaffer, responsible for the break up of the United Kingdom.
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Post by partickpotter on May 17, 2022 8:51:36 GMT
Brexit is so bad inflafion in the USA and New Zealand for two is even higher than the UK its almost like something else might be behind it like I don't much of the world shutting down their economies on and off during the last 2 years cutting capacity to match demand and then when they try and ramp it up finding out people have taken more secure jobs but yeah its probably brexit..... Funny how you and Partick slag off Essex over his spelling, yet you can barely mange to punctuate. Talk about hypocrisy eh? Is that a singular “you” or a plural “you”?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 9:05:53 GMT
Spaffer getting owned. Again.
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2022 9:13:25 GMT
Funny how you and Partick slag off Essex over his spelling, yet you can barely mange to punctuate. Talk about hypocrisy eh? Is that a singular “you” or a plural “you”? I think I might need an injunction against huddy he cried about me replying to him when he had blocked me without ever saying, so I block him and don't read or interact with him as he obviously could not work out what display post meant and yet he continues yelling into void......
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2022 9:14:56 GMT
Back to topic interesting thread on what was proposed before someone started playing silly beggars.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 17, 2022 9:19:12 GMT
Yes. Big bad Brexit. The root cause of all our ills. Brexit is so bad inflafion in the USA and New Zealand for two is even higher than the UK its almost like something else might be behind it like I don't much of the world shutting down their economies on and off during the last 2 years cutting capacity to match demand and then when they try and ramp it up finding out people have taken more secure jobs but yeah its probably brexit..... If Global factors are the people who broke into your house and took your valuables while you were on holiday, then Brexit is the turd one of them curled off as a gift in the middle of your new carpet, leaving a permanent stain.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 9:23:39 GMT
Is that a singular “you” or a plural “you”? I think I might need an injunction against huddy he cried about me replying to him when he had blocked me without ever saying, so I block him and don't read or interact with him as he obviously could not work out what display post meant and yet he continues yelling into void...... Go for it mate...let's face it you're well versed in libelous posts are you not?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 9:28:57 GMT
Comedy gold this, can't stop watching it.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 9:29:57 GMT
Oh, and this.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 9:55:01 GMT
Don’t blame May! She completely saw this coming and has been utterly vindicated. Her words were that no British PM could ever willingly impose a border down the Irish Sea….step up Boris Johnson! Also this wasn’t the EU’s solution. It is what we wanted. I’m sure the EU would have preferred we were members of the single market. Much simpler and makes better financial sense for all too. We chose this. It is our mess. Sorry pal… I hold May, the Remainiacs and the EU fully accountable for the Northern Ireland mess. Why? For saying brexit will cause major problems in N Ire and to the GFA, being dismissed as project fear, and then that happening!? This is entirely Johnson’s fault for striking a terrible deal. Anyone who voted brexit also should take some responsibility. Whilst I know they were completely lied to, remainers did tell them that at the time and they were dismissed, rather than listened to, and look where we are. Had remainers been listened to, this issue wouldn’t exist, and Johnson wouldn’t be PM, and the UK would be a much better place to live.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 17, 2022 9:56:49 GMT
Sorry pal… I hold May, the Remainiacs and the EU fully accountable for the Northern Ireland mess. Why? For saying brexit will cause major problems in N Ire and to the GFA, being dismissed as project fear, and then that happening!? This is entirely Johnson’s fault for striking a terrible deal. Anyone who voted brexit also should take some responsibility. Whilst I know they were completely lied to, remainers did tell them that at the time and they were dismissed, rather than listened to, and look where we are. Had remainers been listened to, this issue wouldn’t exist, and Johnson wouldn’t be PM, and the UK would be a much better place to live. Yep, all our fault for predicting what has actually happened. How very dare we?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 17, 2022 9:59:25 GMT
These are hysterical. The second particularly, that shows that Johnson had no idea what he was signing up to!!
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