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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 10, 2021 18:10:51 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 10, 2021 19:32:28 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Jul 10, 2021 19:51:26 GMT
Brilliant that. Made my night 👍
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 10, 2021 20:04:28 GMT
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 10, 2021 20:14:29 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 10, 2021 20:17:24 GMT
Thanks for posting this. It’s absolutely true. If you voted leave and / or Tory you cannot be a supporter of Gareth Southgate’s England.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 10, 2021 20:46:13 GMT
Ironically the British public have embraced this group of footballers far more than any other England team over the last 40 odd years.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jul 10, 2021 21:06:59 GMT
Thanks for posting this. It’s absolutely true. If you voted leave and / or Tory you cannot be a supporter of Gareth Southgate’s England. You've got to admit though - it's been bloody hilarious watching Laurence Fox do his excrutiating reverse-ferret. Like something out of 'The Office'.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 12, 2021 10:26:50 GMT
DT: Ministers in secret visa talks to end haulage crisis
"Ministers have launched secret talks on a short term visa scheme for foreign lorry drivers as they race to prevent a shortage of staff from overwhelming the industry. The DfT is consulting industry chiefs on how to tackle the crisis, which has led to an estimated shortfall of 100,000 truckers, leading to shortages of everything from clothing to food and fuelling a rise in prices. However, the Home Office is strongly against such a move which would relax controls tightened after Brexit. The growing crisis has forced supermarkets to destroy food they cannot get from depots to stores. Last week, the DfT announced it was relaxing controls on how long truckers can work in an emergency effort to ease the problem. Truckers associations reacted with fury to the move, describing it as a sticking plaster that puts road safety at risk. The haulage industry's plea for a visa scheme comes after it was bitterly critical of the fallout from Brexit. The Home Office denied that there had been any secret talks with industry. "We have no plans to introduce a short-term visa for HGV drivers". The DfT did not respond to a request for comment."
What a farce.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 12, 2021 10:35:01 GMT
I’ll listen to southgate’s views on brexit As much as I will his tactics on winning finals He’s irrelevant
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Post by 4372 on Jul 19, 2021 22:51:49 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit rule
A Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks.
The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 19, 2021 23:22:17 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. I still cannot see one benefit for the UK since we left the EU. The country has become very divided and the NI Protocol situation is a complete fiasco. There has been a large increase in racist incidents We have a shortage of lorry drivers We have fruit rotting in fields unable to be picked The fishing industry is struggling We have become the pariahs of Europe, every other country would have been rooting for Italy in the recent Euros final These are a direct consequence of leaving the EU We have given increased power to BJ and his incompetent cabinet, what a bunch of money grabbing nonentities. But at least we have a trade deal with Luxembourg.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 19, 2021 23:24:21 GMT
I’ll listen to southgate’s views on brexit As much as I will his tactics on winning finals He’s irrelevant At least there were positives about England this summer. There have been zero positives about Brexit.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 19, 2021 23:27:34 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 19, 2021 23:31:04 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. I still cannot see one benefit for the UK since we left the EU. The country has become very divided and the NI Protocol situation is a complete fiasco. There has been a large increase in racist incidents We have a shortage of lorry drivers We have fruit rotting in fields unable to be picked The fishing industry is struggling We have become the pariahs of Europe, every other country would have been rooting for Italy in the recent Euros final These are a direct consequence of leaving the EU We have given increased power to BJ and his incompetent cabinet, what a bunch of money grabbing nonentities. But at least we have a trade deal with Luxembourg. I have asked this question too, on numerous occasions. Not one decent response.
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Post by meltonjohn on Jul 19, 2021 23:46:20 GMT
I still cannot see one benefit for the UK since we left the EU. The country has become very divided and the NI Protocol situation is a complete fiasco. There has been a large increase in racist incidents We have a shortage of lorry drivers We have fruit rotting in fields unable to be picked The fishing industry is struggling We have become the pariahs of Europe, every other country would have been rooting for Italy in the recent Euros final These are a direct consequence of leaving the EU We have given increased power to BJ and his incompetent cabinet, what a bunch of money grabbing nonentities. But at least we have a trade deal with Luxembourg. I have asked this question too, on numerous occasions. Not one decent response. Not surprising, there are no benefits PS Huddy is my all time favourite player too, narrowly edging out Jimmy, Jimmy Greenhoff, Ooh Ooh!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 20, 2021 5:40:45 GMT
The Conservative Party didn't fracture.
That's about it, so far.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 20, 2021 6:39:40 GMT
The Conservative Party didn't fracture. That's about it, so far. Nope. We get to see an awful lot less of Nigel Farage. He’s found his new level doing evening slots on a TV channel no one watches. Plus, knicker wetters are able to indulge their knicker wetting tendencies pretty much constantly. I’m sure there’s more benefits too. We can now eat bendy bananas. That sort of thing.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 20, 2021 7:01:28 GMT
😁 Hark is that the sound of a packet of eco friendly compressed paper straws being opened Racist attacks on black footballers is the fault of brexit It’s just as easy to assume all cases of anti semitism is the fault of the Labour Party
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 20, 2021 7:35:14 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. More accurately woman who failed to apply for settled status scheme in the two years plus finds out it cant just be ignored, I'm sure she will be fine once she applies and will get her job back but the problems are due to her not applying for the scheme rather than brexit itself.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 20, 2021 7:38:43 GMT
I still cannot see one benefit for the UK since we left the EU. The country has become very divided and the NI Protocol situation is a complete fiasco. There has been a large increase in racist incidents We have a shortage of lorry drivers We have fruit rotting in fields unable to be picked The fishing industry is struggling We have become the pariahs of Europe, every other country would have been rooting for Italy in the recent Euros final These are a direct consequence of leaving the EU We have given increased power to BJ and his incompetent cabinet, what a bunch of money grabbing nonentities. But at least we have a trade deal with Luxembourg. I have asked this question too, on numerous occasions. Not one decent response. The irony of this from this particular poster.....
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Post by 4372 on Jul 20, 2021 10:51:42 GMT
Spanish woman in UK sacked over Brexit ruleA Spanish woman who has lived in England for 44 years has been sacked from her job because she is unable to prove she has the right to work in the UK. The 45-year-old, who arrived in Britain as an 11-month-old baby and who has never left the country, said she had tried more than 200 times to get through to the Home Office helpline in the past three weeks. The care worker was called in for a formal meeting with her employers, a large residential care organisation, on 28 June. “They asked me to prove that I came into the UK legally – but I came here as a baby,” she said. “They asked me whether I could provide evidence that I had the right to work in the UK; I’ve been paying tax and national insurance here for almost 30 years. More accurately woman who failed to apply for settled status scheme in the two years plus finds out it cant just be ignored, I'm sure she will be fine once she applies and will get her job back but the problems are due to her not applying for the scheme rather than brexit itself. Thank you for clearing that up. Clearly it was her own fault. Apparently you can spend your life in the UK, be educated there, get a job and pay your taxes, and still be illegal. Still, at least this time, you have not claimed that it is "nothing to do with Brexit"
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 20, 2021 12:38:18 GMT
More accurately woman who failed to apply for settled status scheme in the two years plus finds out it cant just be ignored, I'm sure she will be fine once she applies and will get her job back but the problems are due to her not applying for the scheme rather than brexit itself. Thank you for clearing that up. Clearly it was her own fault. Apparently you can spend your life in the UK, be educated there, get a job and pay your taxes, and still be illegal. Still, at least this time, you have not claimed that it is "nothing to do with Brexit" She is not illegal, she is unable to prove she is here legally, never had a passport or driving licence, must have been with same employer for 20 years+ too because I have been contracting for the last 15 years and every new contract I am required to provide evidence of my right to work in the UK, the whole story doesn't really add up but 6m+ people have managed the application process with no problems, there is always the possibility some people may encounter problems as they are not standard cases these should be cleared up quite easily I'd hope.
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Post by 4372 on Jul 20, 2021 23:23:52 GMT
Thank you for clearing that up. Clearly it was her own fault. Apparently you can spend your life in the UK, be educated there, get a job and pay your taxes, and still be illegal. Still, at least this time, you have not claimed that it is "nothing to do with Brexit" She is not illegal, she is unable to prove she is here legally, never had a passport or driving licence, must have been with same employer for 20 years+ too because I have been contracting for the last 15 years and every new contract I am required to provide evidence of my right to work in the UK, the whole story doesn't really add up but 6m+ people have managed the application process with no problems, there is always the possibility some people may encounter problems as they are not standard cases these should be cleared up quite easily I'd hope. You are right. She is not illegal. She has as much right to be here as you and me. Before 2016 she was living here just like you and me. There is no requirement in the UK to hold any identification document, such as a Passport or Driving Licence. Her status changed as a result of the referendum, after that point she was apparently no longer just like you and me. That is where I struggle, the impact of the referendum on ordinary people living here. Suddenly her record of academic qualifications, her years of tax contributions was no longer enough to prove her status. You assert that she did not complete the necessary process. My assertion is that such a process is fundamentally unnecessary, and in fact demeaning when applied to an individual who has lived here and paid her way since birth.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 21, 2021 5:36:13 GMT
Meanwhile, Johnson set to unilaterally ignore "fantastic deal" he celebrated just eight months ago...you really couldn't make this farce up.
This must be the EU's fault somehow, of course...
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 21, 2021 8:20:55 GMT
She is not illegal, she is unable to prove she is here legally, never had a passport or driving licence, must have been with same employer for 20 years+ too because I have been contracting for the last 15 years and every new contract I am required to provide evidence of my right to work in the UK, the whole story doesn't really add up but 6m+ people have managed the application process with no problems, there is always the possibility some people may encounter problems as they are not standard cases these should be cleared up quite easily I'd hope. You are right. She is not illegal. She has as much right to be here as you and me. Before 2016 she was living here just like you and me. There is no requirement in the UK to hold any identification document, such as a Passport or Driving Licence. Her status changed as a result of the referendum, after that point she was apparently no longer just like you and me. That is where I struggle, the impact of the referendum on ordinary people living here. Suddenly her record of academic qualifications, her years of tax contributions was no longer enough to prove her status. You assert that she did not complete the necessary process. My assertion is that such a process is fundamentally unnecessary, and in fact demeaning when applied to an individual who has lived here and paid her way since birth. 6m+ people found no problem in doing this yet you think one woman where the story does not add up makes the whole process demeaning, I let my passport expire and then realised it would be easy to renew my driving licence with a valid passport, I have lived here all my life and still needed to apply was I demeaned ? The truth is you still aren't over brexit.... If the woman has lived and worked here for 44 years its quite odd she never applied for settled status at anytime before, even odder she identifies herself as spanish despite never once seemingly wanting to go back there to visit friends or relatives, I mean there are some great places to holiday in the UK but after 20+ years I think I might be looking further afield.... Anyway its all irrelevant the instructions from the government are quite clear unless there is a refusal of application for settled status, rights to work etc are unaffected so its an open and shut case of wrongful dismissal lots of people offering free legal representation lets see if this ever reaches an employment tribunal.
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Post by foster on Jul 21, 2021 13:44:38 GMT
You are right. She is not illegal. She has as much right to be here as you and me. Before 2016 she was living here just like you and me. There is no requirement in the UK to hold any identification document, such as a Passport or Driving Licence. Her status changed as a result of the referendum, after that point she was apparently no longer just like you and me. That is where I struggle, the impact of the referendum on ordinary people living here. Suddenly her record of academic qualifications, her years of tax contributions was no longer enough to prove her status. You assert that she did not complete the necessary process. My assertion is that such a process is fundamentally unnecessary, and in fact demeaning when applied to an individual who has lived here and paid her way since birth. 6m+ people found no problem in doing this yet you think one woman where the story does not add up makes the whole process demeaning, I let my passport expire and then realised it would be easy to renew my driving licence with a valid passport, I have lived here all my life and still needed to apply was I demeaned ? The truth is you still aren't over brexit.... If the woman has lived and worked here for 44 years its quite odd she never applied for settled status at anytime before, even odder she identifies herself as spanish despite never once seemingly wanting to go back there to visit friends or relatives, I mean there are some great places to holiday in the UK but after 20+ years I think I might be looking further afield.... Anyway its all irrelevant the instructions from the government are quite clear unless there is a refusal of application for settled status, rights to work etc are unaffected so its an open and shut case of wrongful dismissal lots of people offering free legal representation lets see if this ever reaches an employment tribunal. To be fair, I've lived the Belgium for 20 years and had to sort out a new ID card due to Brexit. I got a letter in the post inviting me to do and I sorted it easily. I agree that if she's been in the UK so long that it wouldn't be difficult to sort her status out. Even before Brexit she could have gotten dual nationality.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 21, 2021 15:14:45 GMT
6m+ people found no problem in doing this yet you think one woman where the story does not add up makes the whole process demeaning, I let my passport expire and then realised it would be easy to renew my driving licence with a valid passport, I have lived here all my life and still needed to apply was I demeaned ? The truth is you still aren't over brexit.... If the woman has lived and worked here for 44 years its quite odd she never applied for settled status at anytime before, even odder she identifies herself as spanish despite never once seemingly wanting to go back there to visit friends or relatives, I mean there are some great places to holiday in the UK but after 20+ years I think I might be looking further afield.... Anyway its all irrelevant the instructions from the government are quite clear unless there is a refusal of application for settled status, rights to work etc are unaffected so its an open and shut case of wrongful dismissal lots of people offering free legal representation lets see if this ever reaches an employment tribunal. To be fair, I've lived the Belgium for 20 years and had to sort out a new ID card due to Brexit. I got a letter in the post inviting me to do and I sorted it easily. I agree that if she's been in the UK so long that it wouldn't be difficult to sort her status out. Even before Brexit she could have gotten dual nationality. In the UK there was plenty of advertising, this woman applied at the last minute for whatever reason there is no indication she will be refused, even before brexit there was something called permanent or indefinite leave to remain only qualification needed was to be continuously resident (less than 180 days outside of uk in any 12 month period) in the UK for 5 years before application, the cost of a couple of k may have put her off but I am sure there were other routes, it just seems odd to hold onto spanish citizenship for 40+ years and never visit there. Company I am contracting at also sent round regular emails after brexit advising EU nationals on what they needed to do, the funny thing is this one case has got more press than the fact there was nearly 2m more applicants from EU citizens for settled status than there was thought to be EU citizens here.
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Post by Kilo on Jul 21, 2021 15:27:19 GMT
To be fair, I've lived the Belgium for 20 years and had to sort out a new ID card due to Brexit. I got a letter in the post inviting me to do and I sorted it easily. I agree that if she's been in the UK so long that it wouldn't be difficult to sort her status out. Even before Brexit she could have gotten dual nationality. In the UK there was plenty of advertising, this woman applied at the last minute for whatever reason there is no indication she will be refused, even before brexit there was something called permanent or indefinite leave to remain only qualification needed was to be continuously resident (less than 180 days outside of uk in any 12 month period) in the UK for 5 years before application, the cost of a couple of k may have put her off but I am sure there were other routes, it just seems odd to hold onto spanish citizenship for 40+ years and never visit there. Company I am contracting at also sent round regular emails after brexit advising EU nationals on what they needed to do, the funny thing is this one case has got more press than the fact there was nearly 2m more applicants from EU citizens for settled status than there was thought to be EU citizens here. German mate of mine who lives in Codsall and has done for over twenty years with his English wife, English daughter and English dog was adamant (I mean he was certain, he's not Adam Ant) that he wasn't going to be demeaned by applying to stay in the UK as he's not allowed to vote. I asked him how he would still be able to join me in supporting England at the cricket if he didn't apply and he said "I'm just not doing it" in that typical Germanic way. Saw his wife recently out with the girls in a pub as asked if he'd been sent back and she says he was at home looking after their daughter and the dog so I assume she sorted it or that he changed his view.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 21, 2021 18:41:06 GMT
No taxation without representation? Seems fair enough.
And vice versa for all the tax dodgers, non-doms etc.
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