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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 22, 2021 8:49:58 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 22, 2021 9:04:31 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 9:10:35 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 22, 2021 9:13:42 GMT
Ahh mablethorpe went there once unlike Skegness which is reputedly bracing Mablethorpe was just pissing cold
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 10:02:19 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 22, 2021 11:20:03 GMT
Who'd have thought Huddy the socialist would have been in favour of large companies using cheap labour to keep wages down, funny old world. Shortage of truck drivers hmmm if only there was another form of transport that was suffering a major downturn due to the pandemic that could be used to brings goods into the UK to allow truck drivers to just drive in this country......
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jun 22, 2021 11:31:37 GMT
It should now be clear that the Tories'immigration policy will leave the UK short of workers. It's not enough just to say higher wages will result in sufficient workers suddenly appearing. A Polish lady left my work last week to go home with her hgv driver husband and family. I don't know if it was covid ,Brexit or something else as the reason in their case, but there are plenty of employers out there citing Brexit. Time for Johnson and Patel to admit to those for whom Brexit was about too much immigration that we need more workers in the UK.
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Post by foster on Jun 22, 2021 12:27:43 GMT
Seems to be a lack of 'pro'-Brexit facts on here recently and a lot of deflection and unsupported 'suggestions' as to why things are seemingly going so badly.
Of course there's still plenty of time before the true effects/impacts kick in and nothing to gloat about, but it's not looking good on any front.
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Post by foster on Jun 22, 2021 12:35:19 GMT
I would suggest that may be reflective of the mood in as much as it’s not gone so well because of all the bending over that’s been done for the EU. Had Boris grown a set of balls and told them to do one instead of extending deadlines and conceding then maybe more people would have thought it was going better. Sounds like a deflection. In any case, as with most 'facts' people post on here. This survey only had around 3300 participants so as usual, hardly means anything.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jun 22, 2021 12:38:51 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 22, 2021 15:23:06 GMT
Who'd have thought Huddy the socialist would have been in favour of large companies using cheap labour to keep wages down, funny old world. Shortage of truck drivers hmmm if only there was another form of transport that was suffering a major downturn due to the pandemic that could be used to brings goods into the UK to allow truck drivers to just drive in this country...... Personally I wish Huddy would stop his links and copy and pastes; it seems the more he does it the better the Tory government does! I spent 4 hours on many motorways last Friday; a lot of the time stood still or crawling. I wish a lot more lorry drivers would disappear, the roads seem so congested. All those drivers who aren't driving to the continent with food we don't need or aren't bringing food to the UK we are apparently running out of, must be driving in circles round Brum on the M5, M5, M42. There is a long way for exports to recover after the pandemic and Brexit, but has anyone noticed that exports this year are higher than they were before the referendum in 2016: tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exportsOf course the remainers will say the exports would be better if there had not been Brexit, but then they said there would be a recession if we voted to leave the EU back in 2016.
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Post by stokeson on Jun 22, 2021 16:35:36 GMT
Keep up the good work Huddy. Anything that upsets (with the truth) the "Boris Brexit Boffers" is fine by me.......
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 22:19:58 GMT
Who'd have thought Huddy the socialist would have been in favour of large companies using cheap labour to keep wages down, funny old world. Shortage of truck drivers hmmm if only there was another form of transport that was suffering a major downturn due to the pandemic that could be used to brings goods into the UK to allow truck drivers to just drive in this country...... You really are thick as shit aren't you? Time after time you are exposed for the lying tory tosser sock puppet that you are and yet you still have the barefaced cheek to post this bollocks. Words fail me sunshine...seriously.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 22:21:49 GMT
Who'd have thought Huddy the socialist would have been in favour of large companies using cheap labour to keep wages down, funny old world. Shortage of truck drivers hmmm if only there was another form of transport that was suffering a major downturn due to the pandemic that could be used to brings goods into the UK to allow truck drivers to just drive in this country...... Personally I wish Huddy would stop his links and copy and pastes; it seems the more he does it the better the Tory government does! I spent 4 hours on many motorways last Friday; a lot of the time stood still or crawling. I wish a lot more lorry drivers would disappear, the roads seem so congested. All those drivers who aren't driving to the continent with food we don't need or aren't bringing food to the UK we are apparently running out of, must be driving in circles round Brum on the M5, M5, M42. There is a long way for exports to recover after the pandemic and Brexit, but has anyone noticed that exports this year are higher than they were before the referendum in 2016: tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exportsOf course the remainers will say the exports would be better if there had not been Brexit, but then they said there would be a recession if we voted to leave the EU back in 2016. Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 22:23:45 GMT
Keep up the good work Huddy. Anything that upsets (with the truth) the "Boris Brexit Boffers" is fine by me....... Cheers mate... I will call out idiots and Fuckwits every time....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 22, 2021 23:31:12 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Jun 23, 2021 7:34:17 GMT
Personally I wish Huddy would stop his links and copy and pastes; it seems the more he does it the better the Tory government does! I spent 4 hours on many motorways last Friday; a lot of the time stood still or crawling. I wish a lot more lorry drivers would disappear, the roads seem so congested. All those drivers who aren't driving to the continent with food we don't need or aren't bringing food to the UK we are apparently running out of, must be driving in circles round Brum on the M5, M5, M42. There is a long way for exports to recover after the pandemic and Brexit, but has anyone noticed that exports this year are higher than they were before the referendum in 2016: tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exportsOf course the remainers will say the exports would be better if there had not been Brexit, but then they said there would be a recession if we voted to leave the EU back in 2016. Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless. There's only one poster on here with multiple accounts. And I see you're back to hurling abuse at people. You can't really moan when you get it back can you?
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Post by thevoid on Jun 23, 2021 7:35:06 GMT
Keep up the good work Huddy. Anything that upsets (with the truth) the "Boris Brexit Boffers" is fine by me....... Cheers mate... I will call out idiots and Fuckwits every time.... Mate, you couldn't call out a KFC order 😀
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 23, 2021 8:09:55 GMT
Who'd have thought Huddy the socialist would have been in favour of large companies using cheap labour to keep wages down, funny old world. Shortage of truck drivers hmmm if only there was another form of transport that was suffering a major downturn due to the pandemic that could be used to brings goods into the UK to allow truck drivers to just drive in this country...... You really are thick as shit aren't you? Time after time you are exposed for the lying tory tosser sock puppet that you are and yet you still have the barefaced cheek to post this bollocks. Words fail me sunshine...seriously. Time of the month ? Basic economics supply and demand if there is a shortage companies have to pay more to recruit, train and retain staff, large companies dont like this they prefer the national minimum wage to be the maximum wage and want unlimited cheap labour this is what you are supporting with the EU. Air freight has a massive capacity surplus currently, 2 of our group companies are taking advantage of this rather than using shipping and road but you stick to shouting at strangers in wetherspoons sunshine
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Post by followyoudown on Jun 23, 2021 8:11:19 GMT
Cheers mate... I will call out idiots and Fuckwits every time.... Mate, you couldn't call out a KFC order 😀 Barman is more his type of work only problem everyone would get his homebrew bitter
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Post by thevoid on Jun 23, 2021 8:16:16 GMT
Mate, you couldn't call out a KFC order 😀 Barman is more his type of work only problem everyone would get his homebrew bitter I'd imagine bar staff would need to smile occasionally and have some banter and conversation with the customers....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 23, 2021 11:01:14 GMT
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jun 23, 2021 11:50:10 GMT
You really are thick as shit aren't you? Time after time you are exposed for the lying tory tosser sock puppet that you are and yet you still have the barefaced cheek to post this bollocks. Words fail me sunshine...seriously. Time of the month ? Basic economics supply and demand if there is a shortage companies have to pay more to recruit, train and retain staff, large companies dont like this they prefer the national minimum wage to be the maximum wage and want unlimited cheap labour this is what you are supporting with the EU. Air freight has a massive capacity surplus currently, 2 of our group companies are taking advantage of this rather than using shipping and road but you stick to shouting at strangers in wetherspoons sunshine I wonder what degree of road freight tonnage can effectively be switched to air, and at what cost financially (and to the environment). It is a short-term sticking plaster which does nothing to address the shortage of drivers . Increase wages by all means to recruit drivers from other sectors, but which sectors exactly? Does not address the fact that for a number of Brexit supporters for whom an immigration bandwagon driven (it least that had a driver , unlike UK hauliers) by the wrecking ball Farage and jumped on by Johnson and Patel, was an important aspect of Brexit , has left the UK without sufficient workers to meet its needs. I hope Farage has to wait for an hour to be served in his local.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 23, 2021 11:56:32 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 23, 2021 12:01:50 GMT
REEEEAAALLLYYY ????? WOOOOOOOOOWWW !
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 23, 2021 16:34:18 GMT
"Supermarket bosses are calling for trucking rules to be relaxed urgently, after Tesco warned that a shortage of lorry drivers is forcing it to throw away almost 50 tons of food a week. Senior industry figures and representatives from the Road Haulage Association (RHA) met with ministers this week to warn that supply chains are in "growing peril" due to the crisis, which was partly brought on by a drop in migrant labour due to lockdown rules and Brexit". www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/06/18/tesco-sounds-alarm-driver-shortages/Another example of de-regulation and loosening of standards being required to deal with the realities of Brexit? It was always my experience during my working life that there were those (people and companies/organization) that got on with things during difficult times, and those that spend their effort on complaining. There is nothing many British do better than moan. When the lockdown came Tesco shutdown their fresh meat counter in many stores; now they are complaining about lack of deliver drivers. Our local Morrison bought (leased) 50 delivery vans. (Maybe the real reason Tesco are short of drivers if that was repeated around the country?) Morrison's support British farmers and are one of the largest British fresh food producers, having large farming concerns, and support local charities and youth through the Foundation and support Fairtrade. (I'm not connected with Morrison's in any way, just giving credit where it is due.) I went into a local Tesco on Saturday and asked for something, the employee sent us to Asda where they thought we would get a better chance. I am quite confident as soon as the Covid restrictions are fully lifted and travel back to normal, there will be loads of foreign nationals seeking work in the UK. The difference now is those from the EU will not be entitled to come, they will have to apply to come like the rest of the world. At the time of the referendum there were claimed to be 3 to 3.5 million EU citizens living in the UK who should have had the right to vote on Brexit. Then after the Brexit vote we were told EU workers would leave, but they still kept coming, the Remainers claims were false. The pro remain media of course will throw up a few examples of those who chose to leave, but they are very much the exception. Pre pandemic, in 2019 we were told employment in the UK was at an all time high with 29 million workers, 2.3 million of them EU citizens. Last year we were told there were 4 million applicants for British citizenship. It is rumored that number is now up to 5 million applicants and many not yet applied. The number of workers who returned to their own country is a small proportion of those that have come to the UK. Most are happy here and settled and contribute massively to our society. Those that left were because of the pandemic and wanted to be with family, but Brexit is blamed for everything. I know a doctor who left to look after his elderly family in India, got stuck in India, and has lost his UK practice. I expect he will return when he can. London has one of the highest populations of French born people in the world; there are only a few cities in France with a higher French population. Has anyone heard of them leaving in large numbers? There is high unemployment in southern and eastern Europe. particularly with the young, Czechia is one of the odd exceptions. Many of them will come to the UK to work when they can. The trade agreements with Australia and India will bring immigration from those countries. The UK wanted freedom of movement with Australia, but Australia declined as they were concerned about a "brain drain" to the UK. fullfact.org/immigration/eu-citizens-brexodus/www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/ukandnonukpeopleinthelabourmarket/february2020www.gov.uk/government/news/more-than-4-million-applications-to-the-eu-settlement-schemeCorrection: Apparently the number of applicants is up to 5.6 million. www.bbc.co.uk/news/56846637
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Post by mrcoke on Jun 23, 2021 16:57:08 GMT
Personally I wish Huddy would stop his links and copy and pastes; it seems the more he does it the better the Tory government does! I spent 4 hours on many motorways last Friday; a lot of the time stood still or crawling. I wish a lot more lorry drivers would disappear, the roads seem so congested. All those drivers who aren't driving to the continent with food we don't need or aren't bringing food to the UK we are apparently running out of, must be driving in circles round Brum on the M5, M5, M42. There is a long way for exports to recover after the pandemic and Brexit, but has anyone noticed that exports this year are higher than they were before the referendum in 2016: tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exportsOf course the remainers will say the exports would be better if there had not been Brexit, but then they said there would be a recession if we voted to leave the EU back in 2016. Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless. No there is only one Mr Coke. I think you were missing the irony in the first two paragraphs in my post. Have you checked out the link I posted. During the 2016 referendum the remainers said if we voted leave there would be a recession, etc. The reality is exports boomed in 2017 to 2019. We have then had a recession due to the pandemic, which we are now recovering from but despite the huge drop due to the pandemic the exports in 2021 are higher than they were before the referendum. Remainers said there would unemployment if we voted leave. Employment hit record levels in 2019 pre pandemic. Remainers said EU citizens would leave. There are 5.6 million applicants for citizenship in our wonderful country. As trade agreements are made over the next few years and we get rid of EU regulations, I predict the biggest boom to the UK economy since the discovery of North Sea oil and gas.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 23, 2021 16:59:40 GMT
Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless. No there is only one Mr Coke. I think you were missing the irony in the first two paragraphs in my post. Have you checked out the link I posted. During the 2016 referendum the remainers said if we voted leave there would be a recession, etc. The reality is exports boomed in 2017 to 2019. We have then had a recession due to the pandemic, which we are now recovering from but despite the huge drop due to the pandemic the exports in 2021 are higher than they were before the referendum. Remainers said there would unemployment if we voted leave. Employment hit record levels in 2019 pre pandemic. Remainers said EU citizens would leave. There are 5.6 million applicants for citizenship in our wonderful country. As trade agreements are made over the next few years and we get rid of EU regulations, I predict the biggest boom to the UK economy since the discovery of North Sea oil and gas. The thing is those 5.6 million are all Nazis coming to live in the fascist state that is the UK post Brexit. Makes sense when you think about it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 23, 2021 17:00:11 GMT
Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless. No there is only one Mr Coke. I think you were missing the irony in the first two paragraphs in my post. Have you checked out the link I posted. During the 2016 referendum the remainers said if we voted leave there would be a recession, etc. The reality is exports boomed in 2017 to 2019. We have then had a recession due to the pandemic, which we are now recovering from but despite the huge drop due to the pandemic the exports in 2021 are higher than they were before the referendum. Remainers said there would unemployment if we voted leave. Employment hit record levels in 2019 pre pandemic. Remainers said EU citizens would leave. There are 5.6 million applicants for citizenship in our wonderful country. As trade agreements are made over the next few years and we get rid of EU regulations, I predict the biggest boom to the UK economy since the discovery of North Sea oil and gas. Stop it now mate you’re making him look even dafter than he is, it’s embarrassing. No doubt he’ll fire back some bollocks off another Twitter no mark👀
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jun 23, 2021 18:02:45 GMT
Are you FYD on another sock puppet account? You really are totally clueless. No there is only one Mr Coke. I think you were missing the irony in the first two paragraphs in my post. Have you checked out the link I posted. During the 2016 referendum the remainers said if we voted leave there would be a recession, etc. The reality is exports boomed in 2017 to 2019. We have then had a recession due to the pandemic, which we are now recovering from but despite the huge drop due to the pandemic the exports in 2021 are higher than they were before the referendum. Remainers said there would unemployment if we voted leave. Employment hit record levels in 2019 pre pandemic. Remainers said EU citizens would leave. There are 5.6 million applicants for citizenship in our wonderful country. As trade agreements are made over the next few years and we get rid of EU regulations, I predict the biggest boom to the UK economy since the discovery of North Sea oil and gas. UK economic growth slowed from 2016-18 so the 'boom in exports' did not translate into anything more than an economy performing feebly on an historical comparison outside recessions. Remainers said there would be staff shortages . There are. You mention freedom of movement when we get the trade deal with India- surely all immigration is now based on people meeting the criteria laid down by the Government, not on where they live?
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