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Post by harryburrows on May 28, 2017 18:39:54 GMT
Apart from the obvious financial aspect, why on earth would he come here? One of the main problems caused by having such a bland season is we are now a wishywashy, neither one thing nor the other, mid-table (fingers crossed) club with no identity? There's nothing about Stoke to get anyone's juices flowing now is there? I just wish Sparky would start managing the way he used to play - robust, classy, edgy piece of work that he was? Let's be honest, he was always up for it when things got tasty, why is he so fucking dull now? Is that why everyone seems so demotivated at he moment? Pretty much playing PL football every week which will keep himself front and centre in Southgate's thoughts for Russia 2018. Abroad or not playing in the PL will pretty much rule him out of next year's world cup. Naaa he'll be stuck on the bench after 6 weeks |
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Post by wuzza on May 28, 2017 18:41:46 GMT
Apart from the obvious financial aspect, why on earth would he come here? One of the main problems caused by having such a bland season is we are now a wishywashy, neither one thing nor the other, mid-table (fingers crossed) club with no identity? There's nothing about Stoke to get anyone's juices flowing now is there? I just wish Sparky would start managing the way he used to play - robust, classy, edgy piece of work that he was? Let's be honest, he was always up for it when things got tasty, why is he so fucking dull now? Is that why everyone seems so demotivated at he moment? Everton don't seem to want him , it's not far from Prestbury and he could have a regular punch up with Phil Bardsley. Other than that I don't see Stoke on Trent as being his destination of choice! |
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Post by essexstokey on May 28, 2017 18:43:54 GMT
I think because stoke are a subsidiary of Bet 365 Them putting money into the club to buy the player would just be classed as a financial transaction and subsequent advertisements he does for them may enable us to offer a lower up front wage with guaranteed advertising income hence keeping the wage bill down for stoke.
As any losses as a club can be counted against the tax that bet 365 pays to the government(the only betting firm to do so as registered in the uk) the actual real cost to bet 365 is not at all as high as we think.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 28, 2017 18:44:54 GMT
Apart from the obvious financial aspect, why on earth would he come here? One of the main problems caused by having such a bland season is we are now a wishywashy, neither one thing nor the other, mid-table (fingers crossed) club with no identity? There's nothing about Stoke to get anyone's juices flowing now is there? I just wish Sparky would start managing the way he used to play - robust, classy, edgy piece of work that he was? Let's be honest, he was always up for it when things got tasty, why is he so fucking dull now? Is that why everyone seems so demotivated at he moment? Everton don't seem to want him , it's not far from Prestbury and he could have a regular punch up with Phil Bardsley. Other than that I don't see Stoke on Trent as being his destination of choice! Might explain the bardsley contract |
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Post by essexstokey on May 28, 2017 18:49:42 GMT
There is another benefit even if he doesn't come we are sending out a message that we are willing to go after big name players gives potential lesser signings (players that have good prospects) that we want, the impression we are going in the right direction, it also raises our marketing stock across the world that we are looking to sign an England captain who was once world class (all be it a long time ago)
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Post by FullerMagic on May 28, 2017 18:50:52 GMT
If Everton don't want him (and that certainly doesn't seem clear and it'd be a bit surprising if they did), can't see anyone more attractive emerging in England, that's for sure.
There's obviously ridiculous money available in China, even for washed-up stars, but just can't see that being that attractive to him when it comes down to it with the disruption to his family life it'd involve.
He's already got £100m banked and can't see him being desperate to uproot his family.
Less than an hour's drive to the training ground would be attractive.
Wherever he plays, there's only a smallish chance he'll get back in Southgate's plans as he seems to have wanted to turn the page - but he'll give himself more of an outside chance if he's in the Premier League.
A megabucks deal in MLS would be great for him if he's given up on the idea of the World Cup. Otherwise, we may be his best bet if the interest is genuine and Everton don't want him (and I've always felt Koeman wouldn't be keen at all)
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 19:04:54 GMT
Why is it 'just wrong'? Not many Man Utd fans are eager to keep him. Watching him play is like watching a man slowly sink in quicksand. He's been playing top-level football since he was 16, he hasn't looked after himself particularly well, and he looks a completely spent force as a result. Those years have taken their toll. How many good games has he had in the last couple of years? Last year's cup final he was decent, I'm struggling to think of another. Man Utd fans not wanting to keep him and his value to us are two massively different things are they not? We are fishing in a completely different pond to Manchester United regardless of the fact that we are in the same division and Wayne Rooney would definitely be a massive asset to a side like us. I simply do not agree with your assessment that he is totally fucked, to the point where he wouldn't excel in a mid table to bottom half premier league side, he's too good not to be able to be the best player in a side like ours,can you imagine him not being Watfords best player for example? He definitely would be. I don't think he would be. I genuinely don't think he's up to this level anymore. It's not a case of 'just because he's not good enough for them doesn't mean he's not good enough for us', because a lot of fringe players at top clubs would be ideal. But the way Rooney has played for the last 2-3 seasons isn't just shit by their standards, it's shit by any standards. To me, it looks like his legs have gone. The league is getting faster, pace, energy, pressing are more important than ever before, and he looks knackered and immobile and hasn't played consistently well for years. |
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Post by mouseykanga2 on May 28, 2017 19:05:53 GMT
So does that mean anyone could fund a players transfer and wage ?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:13:29 GMT
Man Utd fans not wanting to keep him and his value to us are two massively different things are they not? We are fishing in a completely different pond to Manchester United regardless of the fact that we are in the same division and Wayne Rooney would definitely be a massive asset to a side like us. I simply do not agree with your assessment that he is totally fucked, to the point where he wouldn't excel in a mid table to bottom half premier league side, he's too good not to be able to be the best player in a side like ours,can you imagine him not being Watfords best player for example? He definitely would be. I don't think he would be. I genuinely don't think he's up to this level anymore. It's not a case of 'just because he's not good enough for them doesn't mean he's not good enough for us', because a lot of fringe players at top clubs would be ideal. But the way Rooney has played for the last 2-3 seasons isn't just shit by their standards, it's shit by any standards. To me, it looks like his legs have gone. The league is getting faster, pace, energy, pressing are more important than ever before, and he looks knackered and immobile and hasn't played consistently well for years. That last minute free kick against us was the best goal scored at our ground all season. Not bad for someone who wouldn't make a difference at this level  |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 19:22:03 GMT
I don't think he would be. I genuinely don't think he's up to this level anymore. It's not a case of 'just because he's not good enough for them doesn't mean he's not good enough for us', because a lot of fringe players at top clubs would be ideal. But the way Rooney has played for the last 2-3 seasons isn't just shit by their standards, it's shit by any standards. To me, it looks like his legs have gone. The league is getting faster, pace, energy, pressing are more important than ever before, and he looks knackered and immobile and hasn't played consistently well for years. That last minute free kick against us was the best goal scored at our ground all season. Not bad for someone who wouldn't make a difference at this level He can take a half decent free kick. He did shit all else all game. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:24:49 GMT
That last minute free kick against us was the best goal scored at our ground all season. Not bad for someone who wouldn't make a difference at this level He can take a half decent free kick. He did shit all else all game. Half decent? It was a superb goal (the twat). The bloke has quality that we only ever see on rare occasions from Arnie and Shaqiri. He would be an asset. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 19:27:55 GMT
He can take a half decent free kick. He did shit all else all game. Half decent? It was a superb goal (the twat). The bloke has quality that we only ever see on rare occasions from Arnie and Shaqiri. He would be an asset. He had. He doesn't anymore. Again, we need pace and energy, not another wheezing, knackered thirtysomething, especially in that position. |
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Post by marwood on May 28, 2017 19:33:29 GMT
8 pages
8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen
How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox?
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Post by essexstokey on May 28, 2017 19:37:41 GMT
8 pages 8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox? Start a thread and find out  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:38:47 GMT
Half decent? It was a superb goal (the twat). The bloke has quality that we only ever see on rare occasions from Arnie and Shaqiri. He would be an asset. He had. He doesn't anymore. Again, we need pace and energy, not another wheezing, knackered thirtysomething, especially in that position. I agree with your last statement but I just can't agree that Wayne Rooney wouldn't make us a better football team because in my opinion he would. He's not coming here anyway so let's leave it there and agree to disagree mate. It's good to see you back by the way |
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Post by turtlefox on May 28, 2017 19:42:12 GMT
8 pages 8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox? 1 and a half pages |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 19:43:16 GMT
He had. He doesn't anymore. Again, we need pace and energy, not another wheezing, knackered thirtysomething, especially in that position. I agree with your last statement but I just can't agree that Wayne Rooney wouldn't make us a better football team because in my opinion he would. He's not coming here anyway so let's leave it there and agree to disagree mate. It's good to see you back by the way Thanks!  |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 28, 2017 19:49:26 GMT
8 pages 8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox? Start a thread and find out  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 19:52:17 GMT
Would rather buy 2 good players with 45mill
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 28, 2017 19:58:22 GMT
8 pages 8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox? The inner thigh of Ms Leon would get more traction. Incidentally, heard her being interviewed regarding Roger's demise last week. 70+? Still sounded full of sauce and pluckable. If it's good enough for Wayne, good enough for me. |
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Post by cousindupree on May 28, 2017 20:01:34 GMT
I think rooney still has a lot to offer the Prem. It will depend on his appetite for the Prem after Manure and he had already said its Everton or nowhere so I think it's shite paper talk. China? Players go simply for the money not the love of football.
If his Missus has anything to do with it she would head for LA Galaxy and a life on the beach at Malibu
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Post by burge2u on May 28, 2017 20:51:14 GMT
Wayne Rooney is still a fantastic player in my opinion.
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Post by Pugsley on May 28, 2017 21:32:26 GMT
Stoke fans couldn't handle a deal of this magnitude. They piss their knickers over signing someone for 10 bob.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 28, 2017 21:35:43 GMT
In a 4231 a front 4 of
Arni
Rooney
Shaq
Berahino
Would be devastating
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Post by ashleyscfc on May 28, 2017 21:56:58 GMT
Three letters make this story bollocks. FFP.
Coates is on record saying we abide by it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2017 22:14:30 GMT
Three letters make this story bollocks. FFP. Coates is on record saying we abide by it. We're about the only club that seem to give a shit then. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2017 22:15:41 GMT
Stoke fans couldn't handle a deal of this magnitude. They piss their knickers over signing someone for 10 bob. That doesn't really tally with the non-plussed nature of a lot of people around this deal. I'm actually quite pleased to see a lot of people being sensible. |
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Post by robwahlmann on May 28, 2017 22:30:53 GMT
If we have this kind of money available we certainly must spend them wiser than this! I really hope this is just bullocks, but what do I know!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 23:05:04 GMT
8 pages 8 fucking pages on something that's never going to happen How far would a thread get about me licking creme de menthe from the upper thigh region of Toyah Willcox? Brighton if ya scooter doesn't break down.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 28, 2017 23:59:50 GMT
There would be plenty of old talent for him. Do they still do grab a granny thursday at The Queens? Sadly my spiritual home is no more |
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