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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 28, 2017 12:56:38 GMT
He's a cunt, if he and John Terry end up here I'll have a fucking miserable season.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 13:01:49 GMT
Why do people think we will be paying 300k a week?
If he leaves them they will be paying up most of his contract, a contribution of a few mill probably from the buying club by way of a transfer fee, and whilst he'd probably be top earner at the new club it won't be 300k a week. The mirror are just speculating and so are we all. Lets not make assumptions.
He obviously desperately wants to play footy to try and go to the world cup.
Never liked him for england but for stoke he'd bee a step up in class and do a lot for our profile
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on May 28, 2017 14:01:31 GMT
Long term, this would be a disaster. He'd come in, probably be very decent and then in 2 seasons, we're in exactly the same bloody hole again. To say you don' want him here isn't "turning your nose up" it's looking with a long term plan. We need a injection of pace and youth. Not more of the same picking people up late in their careers and then wondering why we don't get much money for them.
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Post by roostershair on May 28, 2017 14:05:54 GMT
I hate Costa but I'd have him in a heartbeat!
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Post by somersetstokie on May 28, 2017 14:26:41 GMT
I hope everyone realises that once he leaves Utd, none of the goals he might score will ever be described as "World Class" again. And he is unlikely to be win a penalty again in his career.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 14:36:04 GMT
Not one quote or even mention of a source at all...
and in the Mirror
hmmm...
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Post by victoria on May 28, 2017 14:57:39 GMT
If there is any truth in the report. Then Rooney would be a welcome , generous and appreciated gift off Bet 365.
We need news of quality defensive resalable players. After news of the new contracts. We need to know long term we are Premier league.
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Post by wuzza on May 28, 2017 15:13:51 GMT
If there were any truth in this I think it would represent BET365 trying to raise the profile of the club from the mundane also rans that we are currently seen as.
It would guarantee TV time for a period and would generate comment all season. Both would raise revenue for the club and company.
Doubtless the salary Mr Rooney commands would be funded from the darker recesses of the organisation with only your basic £100k/week being attributed to the club itself.
That said I can't imagine any scenario whatsoever in which Wayne would consider it an attractive prospect and it would really be a last resort for him.
Knowing our luck he would be injured in the pre match warm up of the opening game of the season anyway.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on May 28, 2017 15:13:56 GMT
If Everton are interested i think he will go there before coming here. I like Wayne Rooney but we really dont need to be adding to the list of 30+ players we already have
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 15:23:49 GMT
A Charlie adam upgrade at least, i think he would do a great job behind berahino. He is definitely good enough for our team, i am expecting him to go back to everton though.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 28, 2017 15:24:42 GMT
If Bet365 want to raise the profile of this club then providing funds to create a winning team would do nicely. Buying one famous star man, even Messi will not turn the remainder of our players into a set of winners. Our biggest problems lie in defensive midfield and full backs. A midfield that can gain and hold the ball would provide a platform for our existing players to score from.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 28, 2017 15:29:21 GMT
If there were any truth in this I think it would represent BET365 trying to raise the profile of the club from the mundane also rans that we are currently seen as. It would guarantee TV time for a period and would generate comment all season. Both would raise revenue for the club and company. Doubtless the salary Mr Rooney commands would be funded from the darker recesses of the organisation with only your basic £100k/week being attributed to the club itself. That said I can't imagine any scenario whatsoever in which Wayne would consider it an attractive prospect and it would really be a last resort for him. Knowing our luck he would be injured in the pre match warm up of the opening game of the season anyway. Yeah, whatever happened over the HMRC tax raids on West Ham and Newcastle? |
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Post by juiceandbits on May 28, 2017 15:29:29 GMT
I reckon he's got another 12-18 months of being more than useful for a mid-table side, but whether we should be chucking silly wages at him is another matter entirely. Rooney probably wants to play somewhere that he can shine and get back into England contention for the World Cup, which will surely be his last should he make the squad. He may even take a paycut to do so, as I can't imagine he needs the money anymore. It would be a massive coup for us to have a global superstar in the ranks, and I can see why it makes sense for Bet365 from a business point of view. Playing as a number 10, Rooney would undoubtedly improve us as he's better than anyone else we've got in that position, even with his much-diminished ability. I think that's what separates this from the Michael Owen deal, as Owen was a couple of years older and had declined beyond recognition by the time we signed him. Rooney is a shadow of his former-self, but still has something to offer at the top level. I can't see it happening though as what would work for us financially (maybe a 2 year deal on somewhere between 100 and 120k a week) is going to be too much of a reduction on the eye-watering money he can earn at United for another 3 years, occasionally shuffling off the bench and playing League Cup games. As much as I think Rooney is one of those players who loves playing football, finances will fuel the decision. I don't think I've ever seen him as a number 10. I'm not sure how could of a fit he is for that role though. I think he'd be a quality centre mid notwithstanding his lack of pace. That said I'd be very worried if this was our only signing of the summer and we plucked a few academy lads out to fill some gaps in the team. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 28, 2017 15:30:34 GMT
I don't think we'll sign Rooney but Im sure we're looking at. 4-5 signings at least.
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Post by essexstokey on May 28, 2017 15:31:45 GMT
If Bet365 want to raise the profile of this club then providing funds to create a winning team would do nicely. Buying one famous star man, even Messi will not turn the remainder of our players into a set of winners. Our biggest problems lie in defensive midfield and full backs. A midfield that can gain and hold the ball would provide a platform for our existing players to score from. You seen it hear first folks were trying to sign Messi  |
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Post by tqstokie on May 28, 2017 15:36:23 GMT
Good player but it is an hell of an outlay for one or two years and wages would destroy our structure so I do not think it is a viable proposition and he won't be playing for Stoke.
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Post by stokiejoe on May 28, 2017 15:39:20 GMT
If Bet365 want to raise the profile of this club then providing funds to create a winning team would do nicely. Buying one famous star man, even Messi will not turn the remainder of our players into a set of winners. Our biggest problems lie in defensive midfield and full backs. A midfield that can gain and hold the ball would provide a platform for our existing players to score from. You seen it hear first folks were trying to sign Messi Hopefully not 😁 |
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Post by lordb on May 28, 2017 16:26:08 GMT
I don't think we'll sign Rooney but Im sure we're looking at. 4-5 signings at least. I think we are looking at two or three signings + maybe a couple of ones for the future like Tymon. |
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Post by whateva on May 28, 2017 16:36:00 GMT
Rooney would lose his credibility if he joined Stoke. What could he contribute to the profile?
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 28, 2017 16:37:46 GMT
Might be able verbally abuse the refs enough get decisions our way? No, he'd start getting booked like the rules state. |
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Post by penkvillepotter on May 28, 2017 17:24:59 GMT
Been out all day. Have we bagged him?
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 28, 2017 17:28:04 GMT
If we are spending 45m I would rather throw it at zlatan.
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Post by marwood on May 28, 2017 17:32:12 GMT
If we are spending 45m I would rather throw it at zlatan. Headline in tomorrow's sentinel "Shock Stoke Swoop for Veteran United Swede Hotshot" Potential signing rumours on Oatcake |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 28, 2017 17:52:10 GMT
If we are spending 45m I would rather throw it at zlatan. Headline in tomorrow's sentinel "Shock Stoke Swoop for Veteran United Swede Hotshot" Potential signing rumours on Oatcake Arnie swap shock! |
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Post by Pugsley on May 28, 2017 17:52:16 GMT
Would be a great signing. Rooney will be super motivated next season to make it to Russia, plus it would raise the profile of the club.
Lest we forget we have a massive stadium expansion to fill.
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Post by baystokie on May 28, 2017 18:02:16 GMT
Understand from several 'media' sources that bet365 are funding this move and that it will not impact on the transfer budget. That said, why do we get animated over what fees/salaries are paid - have never been interested as the decisions are made by people who are paid to make financially-responsible decisions. I've never got uptight about the bonuses and pay at M&S or any other commercial organisation, so why SCFC? Because they have an impact on the club's fortunes and future. But we (fans/supporters/etc) know very little, if anything, about the financial assets of the club and whether or not this sort of deal will impact or not, now or in the future - the Coates' employ financially-savvy people to look after that aspect of the business. Any opinions we may have (and to which we are entitled  )are based on insufficient depth of detail to make those opinion worth very much. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 18:28:02 GMT
"He's a physical wreck" That's going a bit OTT don't you think? It's pretty obvious that we aren't going to agree on Rooneys worth to a side like us but to say stuff like that is just wrong. Why is it 'just wrong'? Not many Man Utd fans are eager to keep him. Watching him play is like watching a man slowly sink in quicksand. He's been playing top-level football since he was 16, he hasn't looked after himself particularly well, and he looks a completely spent force as a result. Those years have taken their toll. How many good games has he had in the last couple of years? Last year's cup final he was decent, I'm struggling to think of another. Man Utd fans not wanting to keep him and his value to us are two massively different things are they not? We are fishing in a completely different pond to Manchester United regardless of the fact that we are in the same division and Wayne Rooney would definitely be a massive asset to a side like us. I simply do not agree with your assessment that he is totally fucked, to the point where he wouldn't excel in a mid table to bottom half premier league side, he's too good not to be able to be the best player in a side like ours,can you imagine him not being Watfords best player for example? He definitely would be. |
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Post by harrysburrow on May 28, 2017 18:30:30 GMT
Apart from the obvious financial aspect, why on earth would he come here? One of the main problems caused by having such a bland season is we are
now a wishywashy, neither one thing nor the other, mid-table (fingers crossed) club with no identity?
There's nothing about Stoke to get anyone's juices flowing now is there? I just wish Sparky would start managing the way he used to play - robust, classy, edgy piece of work that he was? Let's be honest, he was always up for it when things got tasty, why is he so fucking dull now? Is that why everyone seems so demotivated at he moment?
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Post by mouseykanga2 on May 28, 2017 18:34:16 GMT
Bet 365 apparently funding the signing?? But how would that work ? Obviously they'd want all players rights and shirt percentages. Plus any other add ons. As a separate deal away from Stoke city, that would mean any tom Dik or Harry could fund buying a player ? I know that they are the shirt sponsors but is this allowed if true ?
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Post by Pugsley on May 28, 2017 18:35:15 GMT
Apart from the obvious financial aspect, why on earth would he come here? One of the main problems caused by having such a bland season is we are now a wishywashy, neither one thing nor the other, mid-table (fingers crossed) club with no identity? There's nothing about Stoke to get anyone's juices flowing now is there? I just wish Sparky would start managing the way he used to play - robust, classy, edgy piece of work that he was? Let's be honest, he was always up for it when things got tasty, why is he so fucking dull now? Is that why everyone seems so demotivated at he moment? Pretty much playing PL football every week which will keep himself front and centre in Southgate's thoughts for Russia 2018. Abroad or not playing in the PL will pretty much rule him out of next year's world cup. |
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