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Post by fca47 on May 28, 2017 10:08:13 GMT
Just hope this isn't true, we need so many parts of the team addressing , a player who is no longer a forward and a not very good midfielder, is the last thing we need. The whole thing is bollocks , we have been saying we won't be spending a lot, and then this daft article appears, splashing millions on a single player.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 28, 2017 10:08:38 GMT
It would make the Bardsley deal make sense. Crouchy's deal = Defoe Ireland's deal = Zabaleta Cameron's deal = Have they got any other decent footballers in America? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 10:12:13 GMT
Not the area we need to improve. I suppose you can't turn your nose up at a player like Rooney though.
As long as we still improve defensive midfield, get at least one full back, and get either BMI or a new centre half, then fine.
Assume Hughes would see him as a number 10 dropping into deeper midfield role with time. Which to me means the end of Bojan.
I'd be hesitant because he'll never get dropped, no matter how poor he's playing, and I don't think it's worth spending that much money on an attack which is already pretty damn good.
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Post by medwaypotter on May 28, 2017 10:21:24 GMT
It would make the Bardsley deal make sense. Crouchy's deal = Defoe Ireland's deal = Zabaleta Cameron's deal = Have they got any other decent footballers in America? See Brek shea. |
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 28, 2017 10:27:03 GMT
Crouchy's deal = Defoe Ireland's deal = Zabaleta Cameron's deal = Have they got any other decent footballers in America? See Brek shea. I said,"decent footballers".  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2017 10:27:29 GMT
Rooney won't come to Stoke to play deep. He will be coming to play up top or just off Striker. He is a leader which we desperately need. He is a dead ball specialist which we need. The signing of him (totally different to Owen on a free) takes the brand and image of our club to a whole new level, which despite some who want to disregard this, is a huge part of the modern game. He is also a winner. Rooney in a team with more youth and pace injected into it would be a great addition. Surely the frustration is more around that, than being linked with Rooney? If we have £45m for Rooney, and can upgrade the areas which we all know need it, then would be a great start. There is so much negativity at the moment, its a 31 year old WAYNE ROONEY ENGLANDS TOP SCORER OF ALL TIME we are linked with, not Darren Bent! Also, if Rooney had a great season (which could well happen playing 30+ games) he could go to the World Cup as a Stoke! Would that last sentence really make you feel good? As things stand he should be nowhere near the England squad. And England are shite. That's one of the problems. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 28, 2017 10:29:42 GMT
Rooney won't come to Stoke to play deep. He will be coming to play up top or just off Striker. He is a leader which we desperately need. He is a dead ball specialist which we need. The signing of him (totally different to Owen on a free) takes the brand and image of our club to a whole new level, which despite some who want to disregard this, is a huge part of the modern game. He is also a winner. Rooney in a team with more youth and pace injected into it would be a great addition. Surely the frustration is more around that, than being linked with Rooney? If we have £45m for Rooney, and can upgrade the areas which we all know need it, then would be a great start. There is so much negativity at the moment, its a 31 year old WAYNE ROONEY ENGLANDS TOP SCORER OF ALL TIME we are linked with, not Darren Bent! Also, if Rooney had a great season (which could well happen playing 30+ games) he could go to the World Cup as a Stoke! We chased Darren Bent for a long time in the January window, Scholes and Carto are huge admirers of his talent. |
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Post by medwaypotter on May 28, 2017 10:37:02 GMT
I said,"decent footballers". My point exactly  |
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Post by coupe on May 28, 2017 10:46:37 GMT
Fantastic news takes me back when I was young lad and we signed those super stars
Sir Stan,Viollet,Vernon,Mudie,Mcllroy,Dobing & Eastham it will make me go online every week now and make place a wager on Bet 365
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 28, 2017 10:53:39 GMT
Fantastic news takes me back when I was young lad and we signed those super stars Sir Stan,Viollet,Vernon,Mudie,Mcllroy,Dobing & Eastham it will make me go online every week now and make place a wager on Bet 365 I remember those days too! Just waiting for the Inland Revenue to tell me how much my 'dementia tax' will be?  |
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Post by flea79 on May 28, 2017 10:59:51 GMT
Would be Michael Owen all over again
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Post by salopstick on May 28, 2017 10:59:58 GMT
I would also add there must be three top (ish) players we could get for £100k a week.
If one flopped, one was a hit and the other somewhere in between it would still be a better investment.
£300k per week would cause massive upheaval in the dressing room.
A decent but modest signing on fee plus £100k per week would be the most that any non-top 6 team in the prem should pay Rooney. Anything more would be unsustainable for a well run club
If I could choose an aging player from a top club I'd be looking at carrick or maybe milner
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Post by gogogadget on May 28, 2017 11:00:01 GMT
I'd be over the moon if he signed as a forward, it's Wayne Rooney,
I'd genuinely be in dreamland to watch him pull on a stoke shirt, I don't for one minute think it's going to happen.
But imagine if it did, who cares if he's past his best, even 50% of his former best would be amazing. Anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 11:04:06 GMT
I'd be over the moon if he signed as a forward, it's Wayne Rooney, I'd genuinely be in dreamland to watch him pull on a stoke shirt, I don't for one minute think it's going to happen. But imagine if it did, who cares if he's past his best, even 50% of his former best would be amazing. Anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded. Or just someone who's watched him play recently. Seriously, if he was called Dave Smith and had had the last 2-3 seasons he'd had, would people be going googly-eyed over it? Judge his performances, not the name. |
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Post by liathroid on May 28, 2017 11:05:57 GMT
parking at Clayton Woods  |
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Post by werrington on May 28, 2017 11:09:40 GMT
I'd be over the moon if he signed as a forward, it's Wayne Rooney, I'd genuinely be in dreamland to watch him pull on a stoke shirt, I don't for one minute think it's going to happen. But imagine if it did, who cares if he's past his best, even 50% of his former best would be amazing. Anyone that thinks otherwise is deluded. Or just someone who's watched him play recently. Seriously, if he was called Dave Smith and had had the last 2-3 seasons he'd had, would people be going googly-eyed over it? Judge his performances, not the name. Mate there's not a cat in hells chance of this happening If he did sign though along with a few more quality additions he'd be a huge asset....if all our eggs are going into his basket though then I'd fear the worst Like I said though, it's all hypothetical |
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Post by heworksardtho on May 28, 2017 11:11:10 GMT
Scored a last minute free kick to earn a draw against ........ As hurtful as this goal was to me as a Stoke supporter it really was about the same impact as Diouf's one goal this season for Stoke. Rooney was a man before his time but like many athletes of that ilk his time at the top is up! Totally agree with you but he would feel at home in the OAP team we currently have at Stoke , infact he's a mere kiddie 😀 |
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Post by baystokie on May 28, 2017 11:12:27 GMT
Just hope this isn't true, we need so many parts of the team addressing , a player who is no longer a forward and a not very good midfielder, is the last thing we need. The whole thing is bollocks , we have been saying we won't be spending a lot, and then this daft article appears, splashing millions on a single player. Understand from several 'media' sources that bet365 are funding this move and that it will not impact on the transfer budget. That said, why do we get animated over what fees/salaries are paid - have never been interested as the decisions are made by people who are paid to make financially-responsible decisions. I've never got uptight about the bonuses and pay at M&S or any other commercial organisation, so why SCFC? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 11:18:27 GMT
Or just someone who's watched him play recently. Seriously, if he was called Dave Smith and had had the last 2-3 seasons he'd had, would people be going googly-eyed over it? Judge his performances, not the name. Mate there's not a cat in hells chance of this happening If he did sign though along with a few more quality additions he'd be a huge asset....if all our eggs are going into his basket though then I'd fear the worst Like I said though, it's all hypothetical I don't see why he'd be an asset Wez. He has looked like not even a ghost of the player he used to be. It's sad to watch him. Like I said, if he'd performed the way he has the last few seasons and he wasn't Wayne Rooney, would you see him as a player to get excited about? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 11:19:09 GMT
Just hope this isn't true, we need so many parts of the team addressing , a player who is no longer a forward and a not very good midfielder, is the last thing we need. The whole thing is bollocks , we have been saying we won't be spending a lot, and then this daft article appears, splashing millions on a single player. Understand from several 'media' sources that bet365 are funding this move and that it will not impact on the transfer budget. That said, why do we get animated over what fees/salaries are paid - have never been interested as the decisions are made by people who are paid to make financially-responsible decisions. I've never got uptight about the bonuses and pay at M&S or any other commercial organisation, so why SCFC? Because they have an impact on the club's fortunes and future. |
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Post by liamo on May 28, 2017 11:19:29 GMT
Not happening, if anything it's just some clever sod at Bet365 trying to drum up some free hype/advertising
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Post by mattador78 on May 28, 2017 11:19:33 GMT
Might be able verbally abuse the refs enough get decisions our way?
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Post by werrington on May 28, 2017 11:23:13 GMT
Mate there's not a cat in hells chance of this happening If he did sign though along with a few more quality additions he'd be a huge asset....if all our eggs are going into his basket though then I'd fear the worst Like I said though, it's all hypothetical I don't see why he'd be an asset Wez. He has looked like not even a ghost of the player he used to be. It's sad to watch him. Like I said, if he'd performed the way he has the last few seasons and he wasn't Wayne Rooney, would you see him as a player to get excited about? He's at a club with world class players and can't get a look in mate The fact he's still around the team says he hasn't |
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Post by markcastle on May 28, 2017 11:26:54 GMT
Sooner have bojan playing in that position every game
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 11:27:12 GMT
I don't see why he'd be an asset Wez. He has looked like not even a ghost of the player he used to be. It's sad to watch him. Like I said, if he'd performed the way he has the last few seasons and he wasn't Wayne Rooney, would you see him as a player to get excited about? He's at a club with world class players and can't get a look in mate The fact he's still around the team says he hasn't He's been an active hindrance to those players though mate. He's around the team because Mourinho has had to be careful how he phases him out as he's a big influence in the dressing room. How many good games has he had when he's played? He's had numerous stinker for club and country. He plays like a bloke who's just come straight from an all you can eat buffet. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 28, 2017 11:30:13 GMT
www.financialfairplay.co.uk/latest-news/premier-league-update-their-ffp-rulesFFP isn't mentioned at all these days, but wouldn't a deal like this drive a coach and horses through any flexibility we have? The only word that comes to mind if we want to do this is bonkers. Being prepared to splash this amount just to spread a bit of corporate stardust, rather than spending an equal amount on more useful non-names would send out very disappointing signals.
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Post by rawli on May 28, 2017 11:47:44 GMT
He wouldn't last 5 minutes on the pitch if he played for us. The tackles, elbows and dissent he dishes out would see to that.
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Post by Mendicant on May 28, 2017 12:03:48 GMT
I like Rooney, in a strange way he has become underrated yet overpaid and over-hyped. He needs to get out of United and play some good football using his experience and understanding of the game, like Gary Speed and Teddy Sheringham did, to enjoy the later part of his career. Then he'd be a valuable player for a club like Stoke, as long as his agent is sensible about the contract.
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Post by Trouserdog on May 28, 2017 12:09:13 GMT
I reckon he's got another 12-18 months of being more than useful for a mid-table side, but whether we should be chucking silly wages at him is another matter entirely.
Rooney probably wants to play somewhere that he can shine and get back into England contention for the World Cup, which will surely be his last should he make the squad. He may even take a paycut to do so, as I can't imagine he needs the money anymore.
It would be a massive coup for us to have a global superstar in the ranks, and I can see why it makes sense for Bet365 from a business point of view.
Playing as a number 10, Rooney would undoubtedly improve us as he's better than anyone else we've got in that position, even with his much-diminished ability. I think that's what separates this from the Michael Owen deal, as Owen was a couple of years older and had declined beyond recognition by the time we signed him. Rooney is a shadow of his former-self, but still has something to offer at the top level.
I can't see it happening though as what would work for us financially (maybe a 2 year deal on somewhere between 100 and 120k a week) is going to be too much of a reduction on the eye-watering money he can earn at United for another 3 years, occasionally shuffling off the bench and playing League Cup games. As much as I think Rooney is one of those players who loves playing football, finances will fuel the decision.
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Post by reddipotter on May 28, 2017 12:19:38 GMT
Not the area we need to improve. I suppose you can't turn your nose up at a player like Rooney though. As long as we still improve defensive midfield, get at least one full back, and get either BMI or a new centre half, then fine. Assume Hughes would see him as a number 10 dropping into deeper midfield role with time. Which to me means the end of Bojan. I'd be hesitant because he'll never get dropped, no matter how poor he's playing, and I don't think it's worth spending that much money on an attack which is already pretty damn good. The 'can't turn your nose up' approach is exactly the scattergun transfer policy which has left us with a seriously unbalanced squad. |
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