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Post by silverdollar on May 28, 2017 8:27:19 GMT
It has been a very long time since Rooney had any impact on a game. The only value he might have to a club is in marketing and the clubs brand. I cannot see any Premier Club wanting to sign him. Scored a last minute free kick to earn a draw against ........ As hurtful as this goal was to me as a Stoke supporter it really was about the same impact as Diouf's one goal this season for Stoke. Rooney was a man before his time but like many athletes of that ilk his time at the top is up!
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Post by potterpaul on May 28, 2017 8:27:27 GMT
If Sparky came out of retirement, player/manager with Rooney just behind we'd be unstoppable.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:27:46 GMT
Rooney with a Bet365 shirt on would pay for himself three times over for our parent company. The extra revenue for Bet365 from pictures of him wearing the shirt would fly into the hundreds of millions. Not only do we have fans turning their noses up at a world class footballer. We have fans who are plainly thick as shit. It won't happen in a month of Sundays for obvious reasons, but the business model and what it would bring for the owners is there to see. However most shirt and ground sponsors are not also the owners of their football club and therefore while they would expect to benefit from the publicity relating to any high profile signings the club they sponsor makes they would not also expect to pay for these acqusitions too!!! Do you see the point I am making? I'll spell it out more clearly if you don't, it's the right point to make. I'm one of the thick ones. Explain.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on May 28, 2017 8:28:36 GMT
Only on the oatcake could I feel like I have a mental condition because I'd take the England all time top scorer at the club... I know mate, I'm the same. I can't actually believe what I'm reading.
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Post by victoria on May 28, 2017 8:33:32 GMT
Would Rooney be a Bet 365 purchase. Any other players a stoke city purchase. self sufficiency etc. ? Gambling £45 million on Rooney is stupid.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:37:45 GMT
As if Rooney is going to come here If he did though he would be absolutely fucking unreservedly our best player and would be the answer to all our number 10 problems in an instant.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 8:43:08 GMT
As if Rooney is going to come here If he did though he would be absolutely fucking unreservedly our best player and would be the answer to all our number 10 problems in an instant. If it was 2010 maybe.
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Post by coupe on May 28, 2017 8:48:33 GMT
If we sign this piece of vermin I will kiss goodbye to SCFC. I have just been informed by a reliable source that Sir Peter as stated if Wayne signs & the Sneyd Arms reopens he will send Rooney down there to do a shirt signing for all owd Stokies
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:48:42 GMT
As if Rooney is going to come here If he did though he would be absolutely fucking unreservedly our best player and would be the answer to all our number 10 problems in an instant. If it was 2010 maybe. He might very well be a "spent force" for one of the big boys but at 31/32 He is still plenty good enough to do a job for a bottom half premier league team. He won't come here though even if we are after him which again I seriously doubt.
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Post by TinkerT on May 28, 2017 8:53:00 GMT
Would be a amazing signing but i don't see the point splashing 45 million out on Rooney when we have bojan to return. Spend the 45 million on a defensive midfielder, left back and right back, and our side is transformed.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 8:54:19 GMT
He might very well be a "spent force" for one of the big boys but at 31/32 He is still plenty good enough to do a job for a bottom half premier league team. He won't come here though even if we are after him which again I seriously doubt. He's a spent force generally. He's a physical wreck. You can't get away with being out of conditon and immobile in the positions he wants to play, and he hasn't been smart enough to look after himself and adapt his game like, say, Shearer did or Scholes and Giggs did. His legs have gone and it looks an awful lot like his touch has gone.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 28, 2017 8:57:24 GMT
£45 million. I'd rather set fire to the money. Just double the price of Imbula! Nailed on!
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Post by s7oke on May 28, 2017 9:00:15 GMT
Sit him deep let him spread the balls around for others to feed off pace means nothing in that roll Our forwards are crying out for that sort of player Let him run the game. In my opinion anyway
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 28, 2017 9:00:26 GMT
£300k a week. Wrong side of 30. Finished at the top level. Not going to happen. Thankfully. He's got West Ham written all over him. Offer him 5 bob and 1 granny a week and he'll come!
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Post by tqstokie on May 28, 2017 9:06:02 GMT
Wadddington took a whole load of good players who were past their sell by date! I know the game is faster now but class is permanent.
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Post by xchpotter on May 28, 2017 9:06:42 GMT
Not for me. Legs have gone, he will put weight on even easier as he gets older and even if he could spray balls around ( which has not been a success at Man Utd or England when he was dropped deeper) we don't have the movement to profit from it. So, all in all we would be fuckin mental to do this to the detriment of other parts of the team and better value for money exists out there.
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Post by harryburrows on May 28, 2017 9:07:49 GMT
Sit him deep let him spread the balls around for others to feed off pace means nothing in that roll Our forwards are crying out for that sort of player Let him run the game. In my opinion anyway Sralex played him there a few years ago at the Brit , he was superb . Pinging balls 30 yards to feet
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Post by salopstick on May 28, 2017 9:09:39 GMT
Lets just imagine there is truth in this story.
As a player Wayne Rooney would be a fantastic addition to the club.
As long as he his fit and plays most games he would score lots of goals and influence games
He would raise the profile of the club, which may in turn help us attract more players.
It would be a totally different signing to the last minute vanity project signings of Carew, eider and Owen (torn on Owen because 1. I'm annoyed he waited until October to commit and 2. I believe he was fit enough to play a lot more)
However the money quoted is ridiculous. And is not a good investment IMO. I also believe if top players want to stay in the premier league after leaving top clubs they need to be realistic with their wage demands regardless what china would pay them. By contrast Ashley Cole is on pretty much minimum wages in the MLS
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 28, 2017 9:12:58 GMT
However most shirt and ground sponsors are not also the owners of their football club and therefore while they would expect to benefit from the publicity relating to any high profile signings the club they sponsor makes they would not also expect to pay for these acqusitions too!!! Do you see the point I am making? I'll spell it out more clearly if you don't, it's the right point to make. I'm one of the thick ones. Explain. Unless bet365 sign him like the fat bloke on the adverts as an 'ambassador' then as soon as he's registered as a football player all his costs have to go through the football club accounts. If they think as a commercial decision the increase in commercial revenue from his image rights out weigh his wages and amortisation of his contract then the club continues on it holy grail to self sufficiency. If not (I don't) then the £59m owed to bet365 by the club will take a hit. Hope this helps.
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Post by yamyampotter on May 28, 2017 9:15:02 GMT
Rooney won't come to Stoke to play deep. He will be coming to play up top or just off Striker. He is a leader which we desperately need. He is a dead ball specialist which we need. The signing of him (totally different to Owen on a free) takes the brand and image of our club to a whole new level, which despite some who want to disregard this, is a huge part of the modern game. He is also a winner. Rooney in a team with more youth and pace injected into it would be a great addition. Surely the frustration is more around that, than being linked with Rooney? If we have £45m for Rooney, and can upgrade the areas which we all know need it, then would be a great start.
There is so much negativity at the moment, its a 31 year old WAYNE ROONEY ENGLANDS TOP SCORER OF ALL TIME we are linked with, not Darren Bent! Also, if Rooney had a great season (which could well happen playing 30+ games) he could go to the World Cup as a Stoke!
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Post by victoria on May 28, 2017 9:23:19 GMT
If we signed Terry and Rooney should we adapt the oldest swingers in Town song. To welcome our new signings.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 28, 2017 9:28:53 GMT
If we signed Terry and Rooney should we adapt the oldest swingers in Town song. To welcome our new signings. Or compete in the Barclays Walking Football League instead.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:33:26 GMT
He might very well be a "spent force" for one of the big boys but at 31/32 He is still plenty good enough to do a job for a bottom half premier league team. He won't come here though even if we are after him which again I seriously doubt. He's a spent force generally. He's a physical wreck. You can't get away with being out of conditon and immobile in the positions he wants to play, and he hasn't been smart enough to look after himself and adapt his game like, say, Shearer did or Scholes and Giggs did. His legs have gone and it looks an awful lot like his touch has gone. "He's a physical wreck" That's going a bit OTT don't you think? It's pretty obvious that we aren't going to agree on Rooneys worth to a side like us but to say stuff like that is just wrong.
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Post by s7oke on May 28, 2017 9:34:07 GMT
Sit him deep let him spread the balls around for others to feed off pace means nothing in that roll Our forwards are crying out for that sort of player Let him run the game. In my opinion anyway Sralex played him there a few years ago at the Brit , he was superb . Pinging balls 30 yards to feet That in my opinion is why we are lacking goals Another option rather than playing it out wide all the time Berahino would thrive
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 28, 2017 9:36:02 GMT
He's a spent force generally. He's a physical wreck. You can't get away with being out of conditon and immobile in the positions he wants to play, and he hasn't been smart enough to look after himself and adapt his game like, say, Shearer did or Scholes and Giggs did. His legs have gone and it looks an awful lot like his touch has gone. "He's a physical wreck" That's going a bit OTT don't you think? It's pretty obvious that we aren't going to agree on Rooneys worth to a side like us but to say stuff like that is just wrong. Why is it 'just wrong'? Not many Man Utd fans are eager to keep him. Watching him play is like watching a man slowly sink in quicksand. He's been playing top-level football since he was 16, he hasn't looked after himself particularly well, and he looks a completely spent force as a result. Those years have taken their toll. How many good games has he had in the last couple of years? Last year's cup final he was decent, I'm struggling to think of another.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 9:38:43 GMT
I'm one of the thick ones. Explain. Unless bet365 sign him like the fat bloke on the adverts as an 'ambassador' then as soon as he's registered as a football player all his costs have to go through the football club accounts. If they think as a commercial decision the increase in commercial revenue from his image rights out weigh his wages and amortisation of his contract then the club continues on it holy grail to self sufficiency. If not (I don't) then the £59m owed to bet365 by the club will take a hit. Hope this helps. It helps a thick-o to understand the other side of the argument for sure. Thanks.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 28, 2017 9:58:17 GMT
Unless bet365 sign him like the fat bloke on the adverts as an 'ambassador' then as soon as he's registered as a football player all his costs have to go through the football club accounts. If they think as a commercial decision the increase in commercial revenue from his image rights out weigh his wages and amortisation of his contract then the club continues on it holy grail to self sufficiency. If not (I don't) then the £59m owed to bet365 by the club will take a hit. Hope this helps. It helps a thick-o to understand the other side of the argument for sure. Thanks. Bean counting is my background mate and so is Scholes I think, which is what worries me. Number crunchers might see the merit in selling Butland for £25m, Armie for £15m and Sobhi for £5m to finance this deal if it's just a numbers game. I think it's just tabloid crap (I hope so anyway!) Football is played on grass not balance sheets
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 28, 2017 10:01:05 GMT
Obviously paper talk only and even if we were interested he wouldn't come here.
However if there is an element of truth in this then yet again out transfer policy is totally inept.
Signing players who are seemingly "available" and not focussing on the large fucking red flags that are painfully obvious to the entire support base is totally shambollic.
LB desperately needed. CDM desperately needed. CB desperately needed.
How many number 10s have we already got!?
This is exactly what happened with Joe Allen but on a bigger scale.
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Post by medwaypotter on May 28, 2017 10:01:42 GMT
It would make the Bardsley deal make sense.
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Post by kernowpaul on May 28, 2017 10:05:58 GMT
Yes we need somebody with lightning pace up front
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