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Post by followyoudown on Apr 29, 2017 16:17:19 GMT
I'm sure no one has noticed you beating a retreat, possibly your finest moment since claiming living in Lewisham meant you were closer to stoke than someone living in northwich You are still wrong! "Although in some of these functions the Bank act as agent for the Government, they are not a government department. Their position is determined by the Bank of England Act 1946, under which the Bank ceased to be a corporation owned by private stockholders-in whom was vested the power of appointing the Governors and Directors-and became a public corporation, the capital stock passing to H.M. Treasury." I attended dozens of meetings as a member of the MoD at the BoE. Not one of their employees saw it as a government department whereas I knew I was a civil servant! If you've got to lean on 'Northwich' for support you're in pretty desperate straits! Incidentally, have you ever either 1)worked for/at the Bank or 2)been a civil servant? Effectively I said....... Worked at the bank or been a civil servant? No I paid attention at school
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 16:21:44 GMT
You are still wrong! "Although in some of these functions the Bank act as agent for the Government, they are not a government department. Their position is determined by the Bank of England Act 1946, under which the Bank ceased to be a corporation owned by private stockholders-in whom was vested the power of appointing the Governors and Directors-and became a public corporation, the capital stock passing to H.M. Treasury." I attended dozens of meetings as a member of the MoD at the BoE. Not one of their employees saw it as a government department whereas I knew I was a civil servant! If you've got to lean on 'Northwich' for support you're in pretty desperate straits! Incidentally, have you ever either 1)worked for/at the Bank or 2)been a civil servant? Effectively I said....... Worked at the bank or been a civil servant? No I paid attention at school That's a little harsh on us " other " civil servants mate.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 29, 2017 17:04:26 GMT
Effectively I said....... Worked at the bank or been a civil servant? No I paid attention at school That's a little harsh on us " other " civil servants mate. Don't tell Nick as it spoils the joke but as I joined a BR freight company pre-privatisation and then had a pre-Ashes 6 month contract at Tfl 10 years later, I have technically been a civil servant
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 29, 2017 18:54:06 GMT
That's a little harsh on us " other " civil servants mate. Don't tell Nick as it spoils the joke but as I joined a BR freight company pre-privatisation and then had a pre-Ashes 6 month contract at Tfl 10 years later, I have technically been a civil servant "What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 29, 2017 18:55:01 GMT
Britain is booming! To answer your question re the King of Brown Nosers, followyoudown, no he doesn't know a fat lot about anything but thinks he does. He'll be onto you about your grammar or spelling soon, whilst making a complete fuck up of it himself
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 29, 2017 18:56:53 GMT
Effectively I said....... Worked at the bank or been a civil servant? No I paid attention at school That's a little harsh on us " other " civil servants mate. The only position you're qualified to work as a civil servant is the afternoon tea lady! And I wouldn't trust you doing that!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 29, 2017 20:04:00 GMT
So the economy has now expanded for 17 consecutive quarters.... or even 29 out of the last 31 quarters since Q3 2009. Source: ONS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:08:01 GMT
That's a little harsh on us " other " civil servants mate. The only position you're qualified to work as a civil servant is the afternoon tea lady! And I wouldn't trust you doing that! And how are you qualified to know that ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:10:52 GMT
Don't tell Nick as it spoils the joke but as I joined a BR freight company pre-privatisation and then had a pre-Ashes 6 month contract at Tfl 10 years later, I have technically been a civil servant "What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable! It's really not good to call people you have no knowledge about liars all the time ......in fact it's pretty silly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 21:17:11 GMT
Don't tell Nick as it spoils the joke but as I joined a BR freight company pre-privatisation and then had a pre-Ashes 6 month contract at Tfl 10 years later, I have technically been a civil servant "What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable! Whatever it is you are not it .......Civil is the last thing you could be described as .
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 29, 2017 22:30:26 GMT
Don't tell Nick as it spoils the joke but as I joined a BR freight company pre-privatisation and then had a pre-Ashes 6 month contract at Tfl 10 years later, I have technically been a civil servant "What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable! Excellent my joke still stands then, with this new found use of Google will you be trying Google maps to check the relative distance between Lewisham and Stoke
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 29, 2017 22:34:22 GMT
Britain is booming! To answer your question re the King of Brown Nosers, followyoudown, no he doesn't know a fat lot about anything but thinks he does. He'll be onto you about your grammar or spelling soon, whilst making a complete fuck up of it himself I always wanted a message board stalker obviously I hoped for someone funnier and well more intelligent and unique would have been good too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2017 22:47:18 GMT
Britain is booming! To answer your question re the King of Brown Nosers, followyoudown, no he doesn't know a fat lot about anything but thinks he does. He'll be onto you about your grammar or spelling soon, whilst making a complete fuck up of it himself I always wanted a message board stalker obviously I hoped for someone funnier and well more intelligent and unique would have been good too You just can't get them these days , standards are dropping even on here .
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Post by manmarking on Apr 30, 2017 15:44:13 GMT
"What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable! It's really not good to call people you have no knowledge about liars all the time ......in fact it's pretty silly That's exactly what you do, you weapon
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Post by manmarking on Apr 30, 2017 15:46:24 GMT
"What is a Civil Servant? Civil Servants are those who are employed by the Crown, excluding those employed by the Monarch herself. The UK Civil Service therefore does not include those who are employed by Parliament, nor does it include those public servants employed by other public bodies. Only 1 in 12 UK public servants are therefore classed as civil servants. This note accordingly looks in some detail at the various types of public body and considers whether they employ civil servants. As you will see from the following notes, there are many different types of public body. It is easy to see why some fall into one category or another, but others could easily have been created, and so categorised, in a different way, and their status owes more to historical accident than clever design. Follow this link for an analysis of the numbers of civil servants both over time and as a proportion of the wider public service.'" My mother worked for the old nationalised C.E.G.B. and she was not a civil servant. As BR was a nationalised industry I very much doubt you were ever a civil servant. Is there any subject in which you actually know what you are talking about or can we all assume like the other Tory boys you're making false claims, telling lies and are totally unreliable! Whatever it is you are not it .......Civil is the last thing you could be described as . Again, nor could you. "Hypocritical", "pompous", "dull" perhaps, but hardly civil
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 30, 2017 17:07:06 GMT
Whatever it is you are not it .......Civil is the last thing you could be described as . Again, nor could you. "Hypocritical", "pompous", "dull" perhaps, but hardly civil Likes to nip off for a sandwich when the going gets a bit political too
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Post by britsabroad on May 1, 2017 7:52:49 GMT
I'm well aware of what it is. I happen to do this stuff for a living. The problem is the debt/GDP ration worsened under Labour and improved under Osborne. You cannot look at the absolute figures, you must look at the trend change to see the performance. For most of the early period of Osborne's Chancellorship it didn't improve, it got worse! It only improved around the time of the last general election. The time of Osborne's economic miracle which has resulted in growth of 0.3% last quarter! Some miracle! The last 3 years of Tory government '95 '96 '97..39% 40% 40% The 3 years of Brown's prior to world recession '05 '06 '07 38% 38% 39% No evidence here of the Tories managing the country's finances well! Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 1, 2017 7:57:56 GMT
For most of the early period of Osborne's Chancellorship it didn't improve, it got worse! It only improved around the time of the last general election. The time of Osborne's economic miracle which has resulted in growth of 0.3% last quarter! Some miracle! The last 3 years of Tory government '95 '96 '97..39% 40% 40% The 3 years of Brown's prior to world recession '05 '06 '07 38% 38% 39% No evidence here of the Tories managing the country's finances well! Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable. You can never see a trend in as few data points as that! The data set prior to that shows a consistent 40% debt to G.D.P. ratio.
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Post by liquidlen on May 1, 2017 8:08:21 GMT
Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable. You can never see a trend in as few data points as that! The data set prior to that shows a consistent 40% debt to G.D.P. ratio. You can if you're Britsabroad, with his supersonic-financial analytical spideysense what does this job for a living dontcha know pal!
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Post by britsabroad on May 1, 2017 8:39:10 GMT
Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable. You can never see a trend in as few data points as that! The data set prior to that shows a consistent 40% debt to G.D.P. ratio. Well you're the one who posted it as evidence of something!
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Post by bathstoke on May 1, 2017 10:19:47 GMT
For most of the early period of Osborne's Chancellorship it didn't improve, it got worse! It only improved around the time of the last general election. The time of Osborne's economic miracle which has resulted in growth of 0.3% last quarter! Some miracle! The last 3 years of Tory government '95 '96 '97..39% 40% 40% The 3 years of Brown's prior to world recession '05 '06 '07 38% 38% 39% No evidence here of the Tories managing the country's finances well! Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable. As you well know, the Torys have done ineffable damage to our economy by taking us down the "Brexit" route. It's hardly been a safe pair of hands. More like idle hands, wringing of hands, then washing of hands..
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 1, 2017 12:32:27 GMT
Even in that tiny data sample you can see a trend forming. All you really have to look at is the deficit levels. Labour spend everything. Tories save everything. Only one of those approaches is sustainable. As you well know, the Torys have done ineffable damage to our economy by taking us down the "Brexit" route. It's hardly been a safe pair of hands. More like idle hands, wringing of hands, then washing of hands.. The 'Torys' didn't take us down the Brexit route. There was a free vote last year, remember.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 1, 2017 16:25:37 GMT
As you well know, the Torys have done ineffable damage to our economy by taking us down the "Brexit" route. It's hardly been a safe pair of hands. More like idle hands, wringing of hands, then washing of hands.. The 'Torys' didn't take us down the Brexit route. There was a free vote last year, remember. Q. Which only major party offered a Referendum in its 2015 manifesto A.The Conservatives Q.Which major party leader was abandoned by his key associates? A.Cameron with BoJo, Gove campaigned against him and Chicken May, well disappearing for months and playing err, well, Chicken!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 1, 2017 16:26:58 GMT
You can never see a trend in as few data points as that! The data set prior to that shows a consistent 40% debt to G.D.P. ratio. Well you're the one who posted it as evidence of something! I posted it to prove Labour spending as compared to the Tories was not excessive! A level is not a trend!
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 1, 2017 17:32:30 GMT
The 'Torys' didn't take us down the Brexit route. There was a free vote last year, remember. Q. Which only major party offered a Referendum in its 2015 manifesto A.The Conservatives Q.Which major party leader was abandoned by his key associates? A.Cameron with BoJo, Gove campaigned against him and Chicken May, well disappearing for months and playing err, well, Chicken! Come on Nicholas, this won't do. A: All parties are free to write their own manifesto's. That party then has to win the election and then ask Parliament to deliver one of it's manifesto promises which ALL MP's voted 6 to 1 in agreement. Answer B is called democracy. Cameron offered a free reign in campaigning to all Conservative MP's not like ALL the other parties who gave some mumbled all party directive. Then about 34,000,000 people voted.
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Post by felonious on May 1, 2017 17:48:50 GMT
Q. Which only major party offered a Referendum in its 2015 manifesto A.The Conservatives Q.Which major party leader was abandoned by his key associates? A.Cameron with BoJo, Gove campaigned against him and Chicken May, well disappearing for months and playing err, well, Chicken! Come on Nicholas, this won't do. A: All parties are free to write their own manifesto's. That party then has to win the election and then ask Parliament to deliver one of it's manifesto promises which ALL MP's voted 6 to 1 in agreement. Answer B is called democracy. Cameron offered a free reign in campaigning to all Conservative MP's not like ALL the other parties who gave some mumbled all party directive. Then about 34,000,000 people voted. God forbid that a politician should offer a referendum to the public and then honour the commitment.
Blair axes plan to put EU treaty to the vote
www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a682d13a-eedb-11db-8f38-000b5df10621.html?ft_site=falcon&desktop=true#axzz4fqkslEBK
Asked whether the treaty he had in mind would require a referendum, he said: "No. If it's not a constitutional treaty, so that it alters the basic relationship between Europe and the member states, then there isn't the same case for a referendum."
Strange isn't it that the public against all odds voted the Conservative party in and then against all expectations and overwhelming campaigning from all the major parties voted out of the EU.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 1, 2017 17:56:56 GMT
Q. Which only major party offered a Referendum in its 2015 manifesto A.The Conservatives Q.Which major party leader was abandoned by his key associates? A.Cameron with BoJo, Gove campaigned against him and Chicken May, well disappearing for months and playing err, well, Chicken! Come on Nicholas, this won't do. A: All parties are free to write their own manifesto's. That party then has to win the election and then ask Parliament to deliver one of it's manifesto promises which ALL MP's voted 6 to 1 in agreement. Answer B is called democracy. Cameron offered a free reign in campaigning to all Conservative MP's not like ALL the other parties who gave some mumbled all party directive. Then about 34,000,000 people voted. Yes, but M.P.s voted on a Referendum Bill no other major party would have introduced in the first place? But not to worry, if 'Brexit' turns tits up the Tories will blame Joe Average and Jane Average for voting for it! It's going to be everyone else's fault for the unravelling Brexit mess the Tories are 99% responsible for!
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Post by liquidlen on May 1, 2017 18:05:05 GMT
Q: How do you know when the Tories are in power? A: People sleeping on the streets.
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Post by liquidlen on May 2, 2017 7:04:32 GMT
On a brighter note, Sterling’s 13% slump against the US dollar and 9% drop against the euro since the EU referendum vote last June has also made holidaying at home more attractive, as the pound’s weakness bumps up the cost of foreign travel.
Butlin's anyone?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 3, 2017 8:09:24 GMT
Paul Johnson, Director of Institute of Fiscal studies.
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