liquidlen
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 28, 2017 8:38:04 GMT
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 28, 2017 9:07:43 GMT
According to ITV news this morning it's picking up post referendum.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 9:22:42 GMT
According to ITV news this morning it's picking up post referendum. But the consumer boom was based on credit card spending! Always the same with the Tories..Vote Now Pay Later!
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 28, 2017 9:25:21 GMT
Apparently Chicken May is the panacea for all our ills
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:27:19 GMT
According to ITV news this morning it's picking up post referendum. But the consumer boom was based on credit card spending! Always the same with the Tories..Vote Now Pay Later! Similar to Labour spend now and somebody else pays later
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 9:40:31 GMT
But the consumer boom was based on credit card spending! Always the same with the Tories..Vote Now Pay Later! Similar to Labour spend now and somebody else pays later Actually no! Labour has run far lower deficits, far more years than the Tories since WW2! Fact!
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Post by Gods on Apr 28, 2017 9:47:17 GMT
Public sentiment changing on Brexit? No Brexit thanks very muchI predict in 2 years time when the 'deal' reveals itself there will only be a small number of head bangers left calling for a smaller and more insular GB. What will we do when that happens? Heaven only knows...but Gove, Farrage, BoJo, Nuttall, Hamilton and the rest of brexits top boys will be long gone, no doubt enjoying their holiday homes in Southern Europe if they are not in the funny farm.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:52:33 GMT
Public sentiment changing on Brexit? No Brexit thanks very muchI predict in 2 years time when the 'deal' reveals itself there will only be a small number of head bangers left calling for a smaller and more insular GB. What will we do when that happens? Heaven only knows... I'll throw myself in here and say.....what a huge pile of horse shit
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:54:40 GMT
Similar to Labour spend now and somebody else pays later Actually no! Labour has run far lower deficits, far more years than the Tories since WW2! Fact!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 9:56:56 GMT
Public sentiment changing on Brexit? No Brexit thanks very muchI predict in 2 years time when the 'deal' reveals itself there will only be a small number of head bangers left calling for a smaller and more insular GB. What will we do when that happens? Heaven only knows... I'll throw myself in here and say.....what a huge pile of horse shit Don't waste it afterwards ...I'll have it for the garden
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 28, 2017 10:30:08 GMT
I need some of essex's big ass font here. The UK is still a member state of the EU. Therefore our recent economic performance is influenced not only by confidence levels after the Brexit vote, but also, (and here's where I want me some of dat sweet font size) the trading conditions provided by EU and single market membership.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 10:43:16 GMT
"The UK economy endured a worse-than-expected slowdown in the first three months of the year as sliding retail sales and a jump in living costs took its toll on growth, PA reports.
The Office for National Statistics said GDP grew by 0.3% in its initial estimate for the first quarter of 2017, down from 0.7% in the fourth quarter of last year.
Economists had been expecting GDP growth to slow as consumers tightened their belts in the face of rising inflation, but they had pencilled in a higher growth figure of 0.4%.
The ONS said: “There were falls in several important consumer-focused industries, such as retail sales and accommodation; this was due in part to prices increasing more than spending.”"
Just 2 years ago George Osborne said Britain was enjoying an economic miracle! Miracle? More like a mirage!
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 28, 2017 11:09:32 GMT
Actually no! Labour has run far lower deficits, far more years than the Tories since WW2! Fact! Actually it's a true false fact, Labour come in after the Tories generally and inherit their deficit, Tories come in after Labour and inherit their deficit, 150 billion a year plus the last time
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 28, 2017 11:13:23 GMT
"The UK economy endured a worse-than-expected slowdown in the first three months of the year as sliding retail sales and a jump in living costs took its toll on growth, PA reports. The Office for National Statistics said GDP grew by 0.3% in its initial estimate for the first quarter of 2017, down from 0.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. Economists had been expecting GDP growth to slow as consumers tightened their belts in the face of rising inflation, but they had pencilled in a higher growth figure of 0.4%. The ONS said: “There were falls in several important consumer-focused industries, such as retail sales and accommodation; this was due in part to prices increasing more than spending.”" Just 2 years ago George Osborne said Britain was enjoying an economic miracle! Miracle? More like a mirage! If only we had someone with a hard nosed business sense to run the economy, someone who made astute decisions like selling off all our gold reserves at a time when precious metal prices were at 20 year low, some one who could inherit a thriving economy and bankrupt the nation with financial deregulation, someone of real moral character who'd call a life long Labour voter a bigot, just for expressing reservations about immigration, someone from a party with a history of mismanagement of the economy and reckless spending, but who?
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liquidlen
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 28, 2017 11:22:39 GMT
Similar to Labour spend now and somebody else pays later Actually no! Labour has run far lower deficits, far more years than the Tories since WW2! Fact! Tories running the economy better than Labour is simply a myth. Labour have a far better financial record when in government. This is an actual fact, not an opinion.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 11:24:01 GMT
"The UK economy endured a worse-than-expected slowdown in the first three months of the year as sliding retail sales and a jump in living costs took its toll on growth, PA reports. The Office for National Statistics said GDP grew by 0.3% in its initial estimate for the first quarter of 2017, down from 0.7% in the fourth quarter of last year. Economists had been expecting GDP growth to slow as consumers tightened their belts in the face of rising inflation, but they had pencilled in a higher growth figure of 0.4%. The ONS said: “There were falls in several important consumer-focused industries, such as retail sales and accommodation; this was due in part to prices increasing more than spending.”" Just 2 years ago George Osborne said Britain was enjoying an economic miracle! Miracle? More like a mirage! If only we had someone with a hard nosed business sense to run the economy, someone who made astute decisions like selling off all our gold reserves at a time when precious metal prices were at 20 year low, some one who could inherit a thriving economy and bankrupt the nation with financial deregulation, someone of real moral character who'd call a life long Labour voter a bigot, just for expressing reservations about immigration, someone from a party with a history of mismanagement of the economy and reckless spending, but who? "The years 1998 to 2006 witnessed an unprecedented period of price stability – during which inflation stayed within a percentage point of the target – despite earlier predictions that it could sit outside the range forty or more percent of the time. A 2007 report produced for the Treasury Committee noted that the MPC's independence of government "has reduced the scope for short-term political considerations to enter into the determination of interest rates". The creation of the MPC, it said, brought with it "an immediate credibility gain".[3] During this time, the MPC kept interest rates relatively stable between 3.5% and 7.5%.[14]" The Monetary Policy Committee was set up by Gordon Brown and has been regarded as a great success. The de-regulation of the City of London was begun in 1992 i.e. The Big Bang and who was responsible for this? Yes, the Tories!
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 28, 2017 11:27:13 GMT
If only we had someone with a hard nosed business sense to run the economy, someone who made astute decisions like selling off all our gold reserves at a time when precious metal prices were at 20 year low, some one who could inherit a thriving economy and bankrupt the nation with financial deregulation, someone of real moral character who'd call a life long Labour voter a bigot, just for expressing reservations about immigration, someone from a party with a history of mismanagement of the economy and reckless spending, but who? "The years 1998 to 2006 witnessed an unprecedented period of price stability – during which inflation stayed within a percentage point of the target – despite earlier predictions that it could sit outside the range forty or more percent of the time. A 2007 report produced for the Treasury Committee noted that the MPC's independence of government "has reduced the scope for short-term political considerations to enter into the determination of interest rates". The creation of the MPC, it said, brought with it "an immediate credibility gain".[3] During this time, the MPC kept interest rates relatively stable between 3.5% and 7.5%.[14]" The Monetary Policy Committee was set up by Gordon Brown and has been regarded as a great success. The de-regulation of the City of London was begun in 1992 i.e. The Big Bang and who was responsible for this? Yes, the Tories! The stable economic conditions you speak of were created by................THE TORIES!!!!!!
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Apr 28, 2017 11:29:00 GMT
But I thought Blair's labour was not real labour and bears no resemblance what we have now... so I keep getting told. You can't have it both ways...
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 11:32:47 GMT
Actually it's a true false fact, Labour come in after the Tories generally and inherit their deficit, Tories come in after Labour and inherit their deficit, 150 billion a year plus the last time Again a Tory lie! The Labour Party inherited a war time economy in 1945 and left the Tories record exports! Labour inherited an economy in 1964 on the brink of an economic crisis and left a massive trade surplus which Anthony Barber squandered leaving a 3 day week! Despite being in power for 13 years during the North Sea oil boom they squandered the money on 3 million unemployed having caused not one but two recessions! We were promised in 2010 the country would have no deficit in 2015 but instead it'll be 2022 and beyond before we have no deficits. Hammond has disappeared from our t.v. screens to-day! Chicken Hammond, Chicken May and the cuckoo-in-the nest Johnson!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 11:35:28 GMT
"The years 1998 to 2006 witnessed an unprecedented period of price stability – during which inflation stayed within a percentage point of the target – despite earlier predictions that it could sit outside the range forty or more percent of the time. A 2007 report produced for the Treasury Committee noted that the MPC's independence of government "has reduced the scope for short-term political considerations to enter into the determination of interest rates". The creation of the MPC, it said, brought with it "an immediate credibility gain".[3] During this time, the MPC kept interest rates relatively stable between 3.5% and 7.5%.[14]" The Monetary Policy Committee was set up by Gordon Brown and has been regarded as a great success. The de-regulation of the City of London was begun in 1992 i.e. The Big Bang and who was responsible for this? Yes, the Tories! The stable economic conditions you speak of were created by................THE TORIES!!!!!! No! The stability was created by Gordon Brown as has been acknowledged by the HoC Treasury sub committee! The Tories de-regulated The City and wanted more de-regulation of the banks than ever Gordon Brown introduced! Fact!
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liquidlen
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Post by liquidlen on Apr 28, 2017 11:42:13 GMT
The stable economic conditions you speak of were created by................THE TORIES!!!!!! No! The stability was created by Gordon Brown as has been acknowledged by the HoC Treasury sub committee! The Tories de-regulated The City and wanted more de-regulation of the banks than ever Gordon Brown introduced! Fact! The whole UK economic meltdown in 2008 was also caused in part by Margaret Thatcher's reckless de-regulation of the banks.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Apr 28, 2017 11:49:33 GMT
The cost of living is still going up and wages are completely stagnating, of course the economy is going to suffer when people have to adhere to zero hour contracts that should be illegal in the first place for an absolute pittance just to put food on the table.
What the fuck do we pay these "financial experts" for?
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Post by neworleanstokie on Apr 28, 2017 11:52:57 GMT
If you voted for Brexit you brought it upon yourselves. I hope the pound falls to par with the $.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 11:58:27 GMT
You cannot expect people to keep on spending willy nilly. The sooner people get this onto their heads, the better for all concerned!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2017 12:00:28 GMT
What eventually happens to people on a fixed income? Can anyone explain to me how they go on?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 28, 2017 12:00:35 GMT
If you voted for Brexit you brought it upon yourselves. I hope the pound falls to par with the $. That's why May has called the election now! Before the penny drops that 'Brexit' will hit most people hard especially the poorest and the poorest areas most!
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 28, 2017 12:22:05 GMT
The stable economic conditions you speak of were created by................THE TORIES!!!!!! No! The stability was created by Gordon Brown as has been acknowledged by the HoC Treasury sub committee! The Tories de-regulated The City and wanted more de-regulation of the banks than ever Gordon Brown introduced! Fact! You live in a world of your own don't you, with Ric, RRP, Momo et al admittedly, Brown inherited that economy, he didn't do anything to create it but he did however destroy it. The futures bright, the futures Tory.
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Post by 3putts on Apr 28, 2017 12:30:00 GMT
as we get closer to brexit the economy will probabaly fall into recession. uncertainty is not good for the economy. and i fail to see how its going to improve seeing as the people were conned into voting brexit thus sticking two fingers up at our biggest trading partners.
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Post by 3putts on Apr 28, 2017 12:32:33 GMT
Actually it's a true false fact, Labour come in after the Tories generally and inherit their deficit, Tories come in after Labour and inherit their deficit, 150 billion a year plus the last time Again a Tory lie! The Labour Party inherited a war time economy in 1945 and left the Tories record exports! Labour inherited an economy in 1964 on the brink of an economic crisis and left a massive trade surplus which Anthony Barber squandered leaving a 3 day week! Despite being in power for 13 years during the North Sea oil boom they squandered the money on 3 million unemployed having caused not one but two recessions! We were promised in 2010 the country would have no deficit in 2015 but instead it'll be 2022 and beyond before we have no deficits. Hammond has disappeared from our t.v. screens to-day! Chicken Hammond, Chicken May and the cuckoo-in-the nest Johnson! every election the tories promise to reduce the deficit. and every term they serve they fail to do this. i am still waiting for a tory to explain why this is?
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Post by manmarking on Apr 28, 2017 12:47:54 GMT
No! The stability was created by Gordon Brown as has been acknowledged by the HoC Treasury sub committee! The Tories de-regulated The City and wanted more de-regulation of the banks than ever Gordon Brown introduced! Fact! You live in a world of your own don't you, with Ric, RRP, Momo et al admittedly, Brown inherited that economy, he didn't do anything to create it but he did however destroy it. The futures bright, the futures Tory. You've really swallowed the artificially sweetened easily digestible morsels from the Mail et al haven't you, dave. I imagine they taste like those energy bars that lycra-clad middle aged cyclists guzzle when they have no time for anything more substantial The less easily palatable stuff - like actual facts and that - evidently got rejected by your fragile constitution. Because all you're doing here is regurgitating the top line contents of Tory leaflets. No substance, no attempt to reason with what's put to you
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