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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 15:35:56 GMT
Ransomware closed only 16 health trusts but if you re-elect Jeremy Hunt he will close down EVERY health trust!
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Post by Davef on May 17, 2017 15:39:45 GMT
The libs want to legalise but more importantly TAX cannabis no repeal on tutition fees So basically those that can't afford to go to uni will get fucked over their bit of hash And surprise surprise a second referendum on Brexit Does Farron understand that we've invoked Article 50 and that will lead to us leaving the EU? The EU has also said that no trade deal will be negotiated before we leave so his second referendum on the terms of any deal will actually be to REJOIN the EU. Or am I being as thick as I think he is?
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Post by harryburrows on May 17, 2017 15:49:27 GMT
The libs want to legalise but more importantly TAX cannabis no repeal on tutition fees So basically those that can't afford to go to uni will get fucked over their bit of hash And surprise surprise a second referendum on Brexit Does Farron understand that we've invoked Article 50 and that will lead to us leaving the EU? The EU has also said that no trade deal will be negotiated before we leave so his second referendum on the terms of any deal will actually be to REJOIN the EU. Or am I being as thick as I think he is? The EU have already said although the triggering of article 50 is not reversible, we can of course change our minds any time we want
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Post by Davef on May 17, 2017 15:56:05 GMT
Does Farron understand that we've invoked Article 50 and that will lead to us leaving the EU? The EU has also said that no trade deal will be negotiated before we leave so his second referendum on the terms of any deal will actually be to REJOIN the EU. Or am I being as thick as I think he is? The EU have already said although the triggering of article 50 is not reversible, we can of course change our minds any time we want Yes, but wouldn't there be a big difference in remaining as we have been or re-joining once we've negotiated a departure? When we do that, the EU treaties would have to be changed. I doubt it would be easy to just change our mind and remain.
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Post by harryburrows on May 17, 2017 16:01:31 GMT
The EU have already said although the triggering of article 50 is not reversible, we can of course change our minds any time we want Yes, but wouldn't there be a big difference in remaining as we have been or re-joining once we've negotiated a departure? When we do that, the EU treaties would have to be changed. I doubt it would be easy to just change our mind and remain. Well I suppose technically as a " new " member we would be forced to join the single currency and sign up to ever closer union . However in the unlikely event of this happening I don't think the commission would be that stupid , then again
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Post by salopstick on May 17, 2017 16:05:46 GMT
The libs won't be winning so it's a moo point anyway.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 16:07:31 GMT
George Osborne, the Tory ex-Chancellor says this about migration:
"Over the past seven years, the government has not been able to reduce significantly the numbers of non-Europeans coming here — though we could. The damage to the economy from seriously reducing work visas was judged too severe by an expert migration committee; the impact on community relations of further limiting family reunion visas was seen as unpalatable; and few thought we were taking in too many refugees. There are no other groups we can turn away."
In words plain and simple the Tories conned voters they were going to reduce migration and Chicken May is going to do the same with her hard 'Brexit'!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 16:09:35 GMT
The libs won't be winning so it's a moo point anyway. That's a cow ardly way of milking the situation!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 17, 2017 16:11:05 GMT
The libs won't be winning so it's a moo point anyway.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 17, 2017 16:11:41 GMT
As i understand it, Farron wants a referendum so the public can decide if they are happy with the deal we negotiate re: Brexit...and if they're not there will be an option to remain in the EU?
Given that (in the unlikely event Lib Dems came to power and implemented this idea) it would be THEM coming up with the Brexit deal on our behalf, is that not the biggest admission of cluelessness and complete lack of conviction on their part they could display????
Basically he's saying "If we come to power, we'll negotiate the deal then let you decide if you're happy with it because we're not 100% confident we'll actually represent what you want adequately"
Surely, any strong opposition party who is centering their manifesto around Brexit should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off??
Farron has banged on about how disgraceful it is that the public were expected to vote in the referendum without prior knowledge of what the deal would be, and is now asking us to vote him into power without giving us prior knowledge as to what deal he'd be looking for and is also admitting they themselves wouldn't feel confident enough to implement it and therefore another referendum would be needed so he can double check with the public.
The man is weak as piss!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 16:18:05 GMT
As i understand it, Farron wants a referendum so the public can decide if they are happy with the deal we negotiate re: Brexit...and if they're not there will be an option to remain in the EU? Given that (in the unlikely event Lib Dems came to power and implemented this idea) it would be THEM coming up with the Brexit deal on our behalf, is that not the biggest admission of cluelessness on their part???? Basically he's saying "If we come to power, we'll negotiate the deal then let you decide if you're happy with it because we're not 100% confident we'll actually represent what you want adequately" Surely, any strong opposition party should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off?? Farron has banged on about how disgraceful it is that the public were expected to vote in the referendum without prior knowledge of what the deal would be, and is now asking us to vote him into power without giving us prior knowledge as to what deal he'd be looking for and admitting they themselves wouldn't feel confident enough to implement it and therefore another referendum would be needed so he can double check with the public. The man is weak as piss! You want that an "opposition party should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off??" But strong and stable Chicken May's government hasn't done that! We've no idea of the border issue between N.I. and R.o.I, no idea of how we will deal with the so-called 'Divorce Bill' so if Farron is as weak as piss what does that make Clucker?
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Post by Davef on May 17, 2017 16:22:27 GMT
As i understand it, Farron wants a referendum so the public can decide if they are happy with the deal we negotiate re: Brexit...and if they're not there will be an option to remain in the EU? Given that (in the unlikely event Lib Dems came to power and implemented this idea) it would be THEM coming up with the Brexit deal on our behalf, is that not the biggest admission of cluelessness and complete lack of conviction on their part they could display???? Basically he's saying "If we come to power, we'll negotiate the deal then let you decide if you're happy with it because we're not 100% confident we'll actually represent what you want adequately" Surely, any strong opposition party who is centering their manifesto around Brexit should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off?? Farron has banged on about how disgraceful it is that the public were expected to vote in the referendum without prior knowledge of what the deal would be, and is now asking us to vote him into power without giving us prior knowledge as to what deal he'd be looking for and is also admitting they themselves wouldn't feel confident enough to implement it and therefore another referendum would be needed so he can double check with the public. The man is weak as piss! The thing is though Mick, any deal the UK does with the EU will be completed once we've left, so it's not a case of voting in another referendum to remain; we'll already have left! We'd be voting to re-join. I think this manifesto policy sums up Farron and the majority of politicians in this country to a tee.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 17, 2017 16:45:18 GMT
As i understand it, Farron wants a referendum so the public can decide if they are happy with the deal we negotiate re: Brexit...and if they're not there will be an option to remain in the EU? Given that (in the unlikely event Lib Dems came to power and implemented this idea) it would be THEM coming up with the Brexit deal on our behalf, is that not the biggest admission of cluelessness on their part???? Basically he's saying "If we come to power, we'll negotiate the deal then let you decide if you're happy with it because we're not 100% confident we'll actually represent what you want adequately" Surely, any strong opposition party should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off?? Farron has banged on about how disgraceful it is that the public were expected to vote in the referendum without prior knowledge of what the deal would be, and is now asking us to vote him into power without giving us prior knowledge as to what deal he'd be looking for and admitting they themselves wouldn't feel confident enough to implement it and therefore another referendum would be needed so he can double check with the public. The man is weak as piss! You want that an "opposition party should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off??" But strong and stable Chicken May's government hasn't done that! We've no idea of the border issue between N.I. and R.o.I, no idea of how we will deal with the so-called 'Divorce Bill' so if Farron is as weak as piss what does that make Clucker? 1) These useless comparisons to May don't actually defend or answer the issues i mentioned about Farron do they? All they do is deflect completely rather than address the issue. I was talking about how weak Farron was, i don't believe i even mentioned May did i so what has that got to do with it? Parties come out with manifestos and election campaigns in order to try to convince the public to vote for them. Farron basically saying "Vote for me because they didn't let you know what you were voting for in the referendum, and i also won't let you know what my deal with the EU will be until AFTER you elect me either" isn't exactly inspiring confidence when it comes to him convincing me he should get my vote. What you're doing is akin to the US Presidential debates and campaigns, where instead of actually answering criticisms of their policies both sides resorted to "Well, i'm going to ignore your question 'cos i don't have an answer...but look at how bad the other person is instead!" 2) I'm not a bloody Tory anyway so slagging off May to try to deflect attention from Farron's complete inadequacies isn't really going to work with me i'm afraid. 3) Correct, the Tories HAVE done just what i'm accusing Farron of... that's kind of the point i'm making!!!! He's banged on about how terrible it is to do that and how unfair it is to the British public to do that (i.e get the public to vote one way or the other in a major issue without first knowing full facts of what you're voting for) and that's one of the reasons why you shouldn't vote for them because it's soooo despicable...and now is centering his manifesto around doing EXACTLY the same thing. Love the way when supporters of someone see them questioned, instead of actually coming up with an answer to the criticism to defend them, they simply resort to "Well, look at what x has done" instead as if that ties everything up.
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Post by mickmillslovechild on May 17, 2017 16:47:40 GMT
As i understand it, Farron wants a referendum so the public can decide if they are happy with the deal we negotiate re: Brexit...and if they're not there will be an option to remain in the EU? Given that (in the unlikely event Lib Dems came to power and implemented this idea) it would be THEM coming up with the Brexit deal on our behalf, is that not the biggest admission of cluelessness and complete lack of conviction on their part they could display???? Basically he's saying "If we come to power, we'll negotiate the deal then let you decide if you're happy with it because we're not 100% confident we'll actually represent what you want adequately" Surely, any strong opposition party who is centering their manifesto around Brexit should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off?? Farron has banged on about how disgraceful it is that the public were expected to vote in the referendum without prior knowledge of what the deal would be, and is now asking us to vote him into power without giving us prior knowledge as to what deal he'd be looking for and is also admitting they themselves wouldn't feel confident enough to implement it and therefore another referendum would be needed so he can double check with the public. The man is weak as piss! The thing is though Mick, any deal the UK does with the EU will be completed once we've left, so it's not a case of voting in another referendum to remain; we'll already have left! We'd be voting to re-join. I think this manifesto policy sums up Farron and the majority of politicians in this country to a tee. The man's deluded...."You don't like the deal we negotiated? Shall we rejoin then? Yeah let's rejoin now that they have us completely over a barrel and can make us agree to absolutely anything they want as we come back begging asking for forgiveness and to be let in again. But i'm sure they'll play fair really. Vote for me everyone" Tim Nice but Dim
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2017 16:49:27 GMT
Firstly I think BJR is an ex-Labour UKIP voter, accurate as always Secondly I wasn't aware you worked or lived in Sheffield, I thought you were lived much closer to Stoke than that (and Northwich of course) in Lewisham so if anything your taxes would be paying for the pensions going to the families of people like Keith Blakelock, John Fordham, Yvonne Fletcher, Phillip Olds, Keith Palmer, Adele Cashman, Andrew Duncan and many more - guess that doesn't fit in with you glib and smug comments so well though hey ? Thirdly I don't recall reading the comments you seem to have taken exception too on the basis of your own health issues but there is no doubt that people are playing the system at every level and I don't see why that would be different with regards to disability benefits but equally I have no idea how many people are doing this. I worked in London but you've forgotten to mention the sacrifices made by the miners who were criminalised corruptly, you forgot to mention the network of corruption at Hillsborough and the Miner's Strike. How many of those corrupt officers ever lost a penny in wages or pension not one single penny! But when so many Tories get away with white collar crime is it any wonder when the Tories have made the police's terms and conditions of employment so good? Coming to your comment about disabled people playing the system. This is the true face of Toryism! How anyone can 'play the system' when all medical records are made available to the authorities I'm not sure. But the truth is, if you can rig the system with your mates in the Tory Party it is called 'public service' but if you can survive the bureaucratic machine's intrusiveness you're cheating it? This is why I'm not a Tory! So you point about paying the salary and pensions of officers involved in Hillsborough was well a lie as you like to shout out so often. I don't mention the miners as they are completely irrelevant as they were only bought in by your spurious point above that is well a lie. How do people play the system, are you really that naive, it takes a nanosecond to google disability benefit fraud, there's one example below, as I said no idea how big a problem it is but it happens so your assertion that medical records mean this can't happen is well a lie. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/casualty-and-sherlock-tv-extra-jailed-for-72k-disability-benefit/ This white collar crime is this like the Cameron fraud you were banging on about yesterday which after a bit of guidance and watching the video turned out well to be a lie. You're Winning again today Nicholas
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 17:19:53 GMT
I worked in London but you've forgotten to mention the sacrifices made by the miners who were criminalised corruptly, you forgot to mention the network of corruption at Hillsborough and the Miner's Strike. How many of those corrupt officers ever lost a penny in wages or pension not one single penny! But when so many Tories get away with white collar crime is it any wonder when the Tories have made the police's terms and conditions of employment so good? Coming to your comment about disabled people playing the system. This is the true face of Toryism! How anyone can 'play the system' when all medical records are made available to the authorities I'm not sure. But the truth is, if you can rig the system with your mates in the Tory Party it is called 'public service' but if you can survive the bureaucratic machine's intrusiveness you're cheating it? This is why I'm not a Tory! So you point about paying the salary and pensions of officers involved in Hillsborough was well a lie as you like to shout out so often. I don't mention the miners as they are completely irrelevant as they were only bought in by your spurious point above that is well a lie. How do people play the system, are you really that naive, it takes a nanosecond to google disability benefit fraud, there's one example below, as I said no idea how big a problem it is but it happens so your assertion that medical records mean this can't happen is well a lie. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/casualty-and-sherlock-tv-extra-jailed-for-72k-disability-benefit/ This white collar crime is this like the Cameron fraud you were banging on about yesterday which after a bit of guidance and watching the video turned out well to be a lie. You're Winning again today Nicholas Nobody said there weren't isolated cases of benefit fraud but it's your attempt to tar other disabled people with that brush that's offensive! Now, as you're so keen on facts it was Chicken May who refused a request for a Public Enquiry into the criminalisation of miners unlawfully. Tory justice at work! That's a fact but it doesn't fit into your nasty, small minded right wing views? It's also a fact that white collar crime is largely untouched by the criminal justice system! As for Cameron, I think the British public decided themselves what he had or hadn't done. Nice to see you standing up for a Tory P.M. whose family assets were not under the jurisdiction of U.K. tax! Keep up the good work defending the indefensible! Usually, Tories manage to make it pay for themselves! Have you been promised a job by Chicken May?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 17:30:31 GMT
You want that an "opposition party should be laying out exactly what deal they would plan to negotiate and tell us that now so we can consider if we therefore want them in power to try to pull that off??" But strong and stable Chicken May's government hasn't done that! We've no idea of the border issue between N.I. and R.o.I, no idea of how we will deal with the so-called 'Divorce Bill' so if Farron is as weak as piss what does that make Clucker? 1) These useless comparisons to May don't actually defend or answer the issues i mentioned about Farron do they? All they do is deflect completely rather than address the issue. I was talking about how weak Farron was, i don't believe i even mentioned May did i so what has that got to do with it? Parties come out with manifestos and election campaigns in order to try to convince the public to vote for them. Farron basically saying "Vote for me because they didn't let you know what you were voting for in the referendum, and i also won't let you know what my deal with the EU will be until AFTER you elect me either" isn't exactly inspiring confidence when it comes to him convincing me he should get my vote. What you're doing is akin to the US Presidential debates and campaigns, where instead of actually answering criticisms of their policies both sides resorted to "Well, i'm going to ignore your question 'cos i don't have an answer...but look at how bad the other person is instead!" 2) I'm not a bloody Tory anyway so slagging off May to try to deflect attention from Farron's complete inadequacies isn't really going to work with me i'm afraid. 3) Correct, the Tories HAVE done just what i'm accusing Farron of... that's kind of the point i'm making!!!! He's banged on about how terrible it is to do that and how unfair it is to the British public to do that (i.e get the public to vote one way or the other in a major issue without first knowing full facts of what you're voting for) and that's one of the reasons why you shouldn't vote for them because it's soooo despicable...and now is centering his manifesto around doing EXACTLY the same thing. Love the way when supporters of someone see them questioned, instead of actually coming up with an answer to the criticism to defend them, they simply resort to "Well, look at what x has done" instead as if that ties everything up. What's your point? All politicians are useless? I'm not sure of the point you're making or what ideally are you looking for? Always happy to debate any points/problems/issues/policies with you! Incidentally, an election is a competition for power. Therefore, all parties use negative campaigning. Look how the Tories attacked Ed Miliband! I met Ed once and he is one of the most decent, nice, highly intelligent people you could ever meet!
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Post by The Drunken Communist on May 17, 2017 17:50:03 GMT
Seeing as we're about to hit Page 50 I thought I'd sum this thread up for anyone who's just been dipping in & out.
The Tory voters (FYD, Rog & the gang) think everything the Tories have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. The Tories can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. Labour can never do anything right.
The Labour voters (Nick, Essex & the gang) think everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. Labour can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything the Tories have ever done, are doing, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. The Tories can never do anything right.
I'll give another update as we reach Page 100 (*Spoiler* It'll be 50 more pages of the same boring shit)
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 18:03:23 GMT
Seeing as we're about to hit Page 50 I thought I'd sum this thread up for anyone who's just been dipping in & out. The Tory voters (FYD, Rog & the gang) think everything the Tories have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. The Tories can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. Labour can never do anything right. The Labour voters (Nick, Essex & the gang) think everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. Labour can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything the Tories have ever done, are doing, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. The Tories can never do anything right. I'll give another update as we reach Page 100 (*Spoiler* It'll be 50 more pages of the same boring shit)
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 17, 2017 18:14:27 GMT
The EU have already said although the triggering of article 50 is not reversible, we can of course change our minds any time we want Yes, but wouldn't there be a big difference in remaining as we have been or re-joining once we've negotiated a departure? When we do that, the EU treaties would have to be changed. I doubt it would be easy to just change our mind and remain. The Lib Dem Leader of the Lords was talking about another referendum on the final Brexit deal after it was all agreed but before we signed off on it. It would be to accept the deal and continue with Brexit or to Remain. If it was Remain then he thinks we would just send the EU another letter saying we've changed our minds forget this ever happened.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on May 17, 2017 18:15:49 GMT
Seeing as we're about to hit Page 50 I thought I'd sum this thread up for anyone who's just been dipping in & out. The Tory voters (FYD, Rog & the gang) think everything the Tories have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. The Tories can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. Labour can never do anything right. The Labour voters (Nick, Essex & the gang) think everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. Labour can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything the Tories have ever done, are doing, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. The Tories can never do anything right. I'll give another update as we reach Page 100 (*Spoiler* It'll be 50 more pages of the same boring shit) I bow to 'TDC''s well known expertise when it comes to boring shit? I hate to disappoint you but occasionally I vote for other parties if I feel it is necessary. I wonder if the Tory Boys have been as open minded? I suspect not! P.S. Has 'Mary' made up her mind yet?
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Post by essexstokey on May 17, 2017 18:17:41 GMT
Seeing as we're about to hit Page 50 I thought I'd sum this thread up for anyone who's just been dipping in & out. The Tory voters (FYD, Rog & the gang) think everything the Tories have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. The Tories can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. Labour can never do anything right. The Labour voters (Nick, Essex & the gang) think everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. Labour can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything the Tories have ever done, are doing, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. The Tories can never do anything right. I'll give another update as we reach Page 100 (*Spoiler* It'll be 50 more pages of the same boring shit) nope wrong summing up of me just don't trust the Tories, never have never will I'm not blind on labour and this election not sure how/if I'm voting you can class me as anti tory though
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Post by salopstick on May 17, 2017 18:18:50 GMT
Nice but dim Tim trying to be a comedian on sky now
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 18:19:37 GMT
I bow to 'TDC''s well known expertise when it comes to boring shit? I hate to disappoint you but occasionally I vote for other parties if I feel it is necessary. I wonder if the Tory Boys have been as open minded? I suspect not! P.S. Has 'Mary' made up her mind yet? Not until the day Edit It won't be liberal or green
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Post by essexstokey on May 17, 2017 18:21:04 GMT
Nice but dim Tim trying to be a comedian on sky now Yet again personal insults!! I give you Tim and raise you a Boris!!
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 18:21:05 GMT
Nice but dim Tim trying to be a comedian on sky now Reminds me of kinnock The fucking clown
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 17, 2017 18:22:12 GMT
Nice but dim Tim trying to be a comedian on sky now The "Eurosceptic" Farron is delivering his manifesto speech on a stage half painted in the EU flag. He's standing in the middle of the gold stars
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2017 18:23:33 GMT
So you point about paying the salary and pensions of officers involved in Hillsborough was well a lie as you like to shout out so often. I don't mention the miners as they are completely irrelevant as they were only bought in by your spurious point above that is well a lie. How do people play the system, are you really that naive, it takes a nanosecond to google disability benefit fraud, there's one example below, as I said no idea how big a problem it is but it happens so your assertion that medical records mean this can't happen is well a lie. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/29/casualty-and-sherlock-tv-extra-jailed-for-72k-disability-benefit/ This white collar crime is this like the Cameron fraud you were banging on about yesterday which after a bit of guidance and watching the video turned out well to be a lie. You're Winning again today Nicholas Nobody said there weren't isolated cases of benefit fraud but it's your attempt to tar other disabled people with that brush that's offensive! Now, as you're so keen on facts it was Chicken May who refused a request for a Public Enquiry into the criminalisation of miners unlawfully. Tory justice at work! That's a fact but it doesn't fit into your nasty, small minded right wing views? It's also a fact that white collar crime is largely untouched by the criminal justice system! As for Cameron, I think the British public decided themselves what he had or hadn't done. Nice to see you standing up for a Tory P.M. whose family assets were not under the jurisdiction of U.K. tax! Keep up the good work defending the indefensible! Usually, Tories manage to make it pay for themselves! Have you been promised a job by Chicken May? Can you lie straight in bed even ? Here is you exact quote. Coming to your comment about disabled people playing the system. This is the true face of Toryism! How anyone can 'play the system' when all medical records are made available to the authorities I'm not sure.You then say you didn't claim there weren't isolated cases of benefit fraud despite this being pretty much exactly what you did say. As for tarring other disabled people, you're getting desperate, my comment is below, wherever there is a benefit there will be some people playing the system not sure why you find that upsetting when its a statement of fact. Thirdly I don't recall reading the comments you seem to have taken exception too on the basis of your own health issues but there is no doubt that people are playing the system at every level and I don't see why that would be different with regards to disability benefits but equally I have no idea how many people are doing this.Back to Cameron go watch the video again, company not based in the UK doesn't pay UK tax shock. Do you still not understand what happened, he bought shares in a company that was a hedge fund, investors lend money to the fund to invest, company makes profit on investment and pays out to the investors who then pay tax on their income it really isn't that difficult to grasp and in fact would have been exactly the same outcome if he'd bought shares in a UK company, you do not pay tax when you buy shares only on the income from the shares....
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 17, 2017 18:28:17 GMT
Lib Dems.....
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Post by followyoudown on May 17, 2017 18:37:46 GMT
Seeing as we're about to hit Page 50 I thought I'd sum this thread up for anyone who's just been dipping in & out. The Tory voters (FYD, Rog & the gang) think everything the Tories have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. The Tories can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. Labour can never do anything right. The Labour voters (Nick, Essex & the gang) think everything Labour have ever done, are doing now, or shall ever do is 100% correct. Labour can never do anything wrong, ever. They also believe that everything the Tories have ever done, are doing, or shall ever do is 100% wrong. The Tories can never do anything right. I'll give another update as we reach Page 100 (*Spoiler* It'll be 50 more pages of the same boring shit) Fake news I clearly praised Ed Milliband on page 46
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