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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 18, 2017 12:25:42 GMT
Bloody hell, I never saw this coming. Unlike the U.S.A., we don't have a written constitution so our Establishment makes up the rules as it suits them!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 18, 2017 12:34:18 GMT
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Post by themistocles on Apr 18, 2017 12:37:23 GMT
Oh goody, another chance to see all the SJW's & snowflakes throwing trantrums as yet another vote goes against them (I need to find something to laugh about 'cos I fucking hate the Tories & they're going to win easily) Crying SJW is the beat bit
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 18, 2017 12:47:30 GMT
Indeed, had a couple of Labour Mps on TV couldn't bring themselves to mention Jezza, how can the 170 who voted against him being leader of the party go to the electorate and say vote to make Jezza PM. How can all the Tory M.P.s who didn't vote for M/s May in the Tory leadership election say she should be elected as P.M.? Even your straw man arguments are becoming tenuous, the 170 launched a no confidence vote in Corbyn as leader of the Labour party. They didn't think he was competent to be leader and now they have to say he should be PM. Good luck with that.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 18, 2017 12:55:53 GMT
We wouldn't be in this position if the Remoaners had actually respected the referendum result. Morale: Be careful what you wish for. Even the most right wing commentators, including the editor of The Spectator are vocalising what a load of nonsense May's statement was. There is (and never has been) any parliamentary block to Brexit. She's a liar. She hasn't told any lies. You're telling me that Labour publishing their 6 lines in the sand, the Lib Dems demanding a second referendum and the SNP saying they'll vote against any deal before a single word of negotiation has been spoken hasn't been a constant drip of resistance against the referendum vote. The remainers have never accepted the result. We do need to be in the strongest position possible for the Brexit talks. Anyone from Farron, Clegg, Starmer, Soubry, Sturgeon etc, etc would do anything to delay and derail the UK's interests. So if it's not to strengthen her Brexit hand why has she called a GE?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 18, 2017 13:00:20 GMT
Master stroke on the Tories part. Labour can not win under corbynski, they won't have time to replace him, thus, effectively gaining another 2 extra years. Great news all round.... In Tories we trust.... Trusted to lie! Lied about getting a budget surplus by the end of this parliament! Lied about 5 year fixed term parliaments! Lied about not raising taxes! Lied about protecting the N.H.S.! The list is endless! Dunna be daft Cockers the Fixed Term Parliament Act was passed by a vote in the HoC by about 85% of ALL MP's. Anyway this election doesn't affect us does it. We aren't swing voters
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Post by Gods on Apr 18, 2017 13:01:21 GMT
Interesting isn't it because at a General Election the turnout will be far lower than it was for the EU Referendum where people who never otherwise vote rocked up in large numbers to vote Brexit. My guess is most of the Remainers were regular voters anyway. There was much less of a 'rent a crowd' element to the Remain vote. I'm right about the lower turnout but the rest is all supposition of course but intuitively I'm right about that too. A pro-EU coalition of the left and centre in England and Wales and the SNP in Scotland might just do for Tories...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 18, 2017 13:06:37 GMT
Even the most right wing commentators, including the editor of The Spectator are vocalising what a load of nonsense May's statement was. There is (and never has been) any parliamentary block to Brexit. She's a liar. So if it's not to strengthen her Brexit hand why has she called a GE? Because she's a brazen opportunist who has ridden roughshod over the idea of fixed term parliaments. Nothing has substantially changed since she became Prime Minister Brexit wise other than Labour allowing her to go with her timetable on triggering article 50. She is a liar, even the Tory press cannot believe the horse shit she came out with this morning, hopefully it will end up biting her on the arse.
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Post by serpico on Apr 18, 2017 13:06:37 GMT
Diane Abbott already laying out a losing strategy on the bbc.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 18, 2017 13:07:16 GMT
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Post by serpico on Apr 18, 2017 13:08:04 GMT
Labour is weak and Theresa May probably wants to be seen as the legitimate prime minister going into the Brexit talks, makes sense for her at a time when Labour is a hollowed out mess of a party.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 18, 2017 13:13:25 GMT
So if it's not to strengthen her Brexit hand why has she called a GE? Because she's a brazen opportunist who has ridden roughshod over the idea of fixed term parliaments. Nothing has substantially changed since she became Prime Minister Brexit wise other than Labour allowing her to go with her timetable on triggering article 50. She is a liar, even the Tory press cannot believe the horse shit she came out with this morning, hopefully it will end up biting her on the arse. Sticking up for Tory legislation, never thought I'd see the day Sheikhy. The FTP act is one of the most pointless acts ever, no opposition can ever say no to an early general election being called so it's as much use as chocolate fireguard.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 18, 2017 13:18:28 GMT
The reasons she gave were clearly bullshit - if she wasn't 20 points ahead in the polls no way would she have done this - but all in all I think it's probably the best way forward.
It should've been done a lot sooner. Doing it now means were the electorate to vote a different (or hung) government (which looks very unlikely), the previous few months spent devising a strategy would've been absolutely pointless.
I imagine the EU is pretty happy with this move - whoever wins (almost certainly Tory) will have to lay their Brexit plan out in broad daylight. Although without any proper opposition the Tories might be able to get a decent majority with vague shit like 'Brexit means Brexit' and 'Red and White and Blue Brexit'.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 18, 2017 13:20:51 GMT
Well well. The sun is shining, the pound is doing the opposite of a North Korean missile and heading skywards and all of the other parties are desperately trying to figure out what the fuck to do. Just setting off for a short break in the Cotswolds, not far from our ex-right honourable old friend from Whitney as a matter of fact and I've just realised this will be the end for Soubry and Farrelly et al. Does it get any better than this?
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 18, 2017 13:21:16 GMT
She's dithering again. She hasn't the b%!!%#&$ for the job & lacks conviction. This is pure procrastination. This election won't make her/our troubles go away. She's cursed herself with her own words, "Brexit means Brexit" It's an enormous undertaking & the Torys arnt upto it & they know it. Pragmatism, is £@#&!ng things up & carrying on regardless... Oh Theresa, Where did it all go wrong...
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 18, 2017 13:22:15 GMT
Because she's a brazen opportunist who has ridden roughshod over the idea of fixed term parliaments. Nothing has substantially changed since she became Prime Minister Brexit wise other than Labour allowing her to go with her timetable on triggering article 50. She is a liar, even the Tory press cannot believe the horse shit she came out with this morning, hopefully it will end up biting her on the arse. Sticking up for Tory legislation, never thought I'd see the day Sheikhy. The FTP act is one of the most pointless acts ever, no opposition can ever say no to an early general election being called so it's as much use as chocolate fireguard. I don't think 'sheikh' is sticking up for Tory legislation just pointing out the hypocrisy of it all! Incidentally, all the usual pro Tory business groups e.g. C.B.I. are questioning the wisdom of adding more economic uncertainty after Article 50 has just been triggered!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 18, 2017 13:26:18 GMT
Well well. The sun is shining, the pound is doing the opposite of a North Korean missile and heading skywards and all of the other parties are desperately trying to figure out what the fuck to do. Just setting off for a short break in the Cotswolds, not far from our ex-right honourable old friend from Whitney as a matter of fact and I've just realised this will be the end for Soubry and Farrelly et al. Does it get any better than this? Theresa May, more right wing than Marine Le Pen! You lot deserve each other but the British people deserve so much better!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 18, 2017 13:31:07 GMT
Because she's a brazen opportunist who has ridden roughshod over the idea of fixed term parliaments. Nothing has substantially changed since she became Prime Minister Brexit wise other than Labour allowing her to go with her timetable on triggering article 50. She is a liar, even the Tory press cannot believe the horse shit she came out with this morning, hopefully it will end up biting her on the arse. Sticking up for Tory legislation, never thought I'd see the day Sheikhy. The FTP act is one of the most pointless acts ever, no opposition can ever say no to an early general election being called so it's as much use as chocolate fireguard. Like most MP's I was always for it as it inherently puts the country before any Party Political interest, fyd. That's why it should only be bypassed when their is a genuine lack of confidence in the Government within Parliament or for genuine constitutional reasons. Everything else is just brazen opportunism.
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Post by stockportstokie on Apr 18, 2017 14:12:16 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 18, 2017 14:15:28 GMT
Its time to tell Terisamay to just wash and go !!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 14:20:32 GMT
I listened to her and it was an absolute pisser You can tell her lies .....she closes her eyes......and she never opened them all through the interview
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 18, 2017 14:27:37 GMT
Sticking up for Tory legislation, never thought I'd see the day Sheikhy. The FTP act is one of the most pointless acts ever, no opposition can ever say no to an early general election being called so it's as much use as chocolate fireguard. Like most MP's I was always for it as it inherently puts the country before any Party Political interest, fyd. That's why it should only be bypassed when their is a genuine lack of confidence in the Government within Parliament or for genuine constitutional reasons. Everything else is just brazen opportunism. Brexit and how it is negotiated is the most important matter for the country. While you wail now about brazen opportunism, a while back many people were wailing about May being held to ransom by a small group of ultra brexiteers, guess what with another 50+ MP's she'll be free to strike the best deal.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Apr 18, 2017 14:36:12 GMT
A fairly right wing Tory government with 400 seats... Oh the joys.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 18, 2017 14:36:17 GMT
Like most MP's I was always for it as it inherently puts the country before any Party Political interest, fyd. That's why it should only be bypassed when their is a genuine lack of confidence in the Government within Parliament or for genuine constitutional reasons. Everything else is just brazen opportunism. Brexit and how it is negotiated is the most important matter for the country. While you wail now about brazen opportunism, a while back many people were wailing about May being held to ransom by a small group of ultra brexiteers, guess what with another 50+ MP's she'll be free to strike the best deal. How does a massive majority and total lack of scrutiny give us the best Brexit deal? Make no mistake the right wing of the Tory Party and some of their very close associates in the City of London are hankering for a Brexit that makes us a version of the Cayman Islands and a reduction of state to virtually zero.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2017 14:40:20 GMT
Labour is weak and Theresa May probably wants to be seen as the legitimate prime minister going into the Brexit talks, makes sense for her at a time when Labour is a hollowed out mess of a party. This is Red Jez's and his supporters chance they say they are ready for government, let's put them in and see just how ready they are
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 18, 2017 14:42:36 GMT
A fairly right wing Tory government with 400 seats... Oh the joys. The problem Labour will have is that the vast majority of UKIP voters will turn to the Tory's this election. I will be voting Labour for the hell of it
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2017 14:43:21 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Apr 18, 2017 14:46:36 GMT
If corbyn had a 20 point lead every speech would've call a general election so we have a stronger government for the negotiations
Saying that if my aunt had bollocksshewould be my uncle
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Post by GeneralFaye on Apr 18, 2017 14:49:42 GMT
She'll win by an absolute landslide, I called that Brexit would happen and now I'm calling the general election with my 0.1% knowledge of anything political.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Apr 18, 2017 14:51:36 GMT
So if it's not to strengthen her Brexit hand why has she called a GE? Because she's a brazen opportunist who has ridden roughshod over the idea of fixed term parliaments. Nothing has substantially changed since she became Prime Minister Brexit wise other than Labour allowing her to go with her timetable on triggering article 50. She is a liar, even the Tory press cannot believe the horse shit she came out with this morning, hopefully it will end up biting her on the arse. HaHa! You were calling for a General Election as soon as she took over Momo, and had no qualms with ignoring the FTP then. Your hypocrisy and faux outrage is entirely predictable. I think there will have to be an election pretty soon won't there? If May accepted the nomination and immediately called a General Election, whilst Labour were fucked in the water, you'd be one of the first complaining! We need stability in order to allow the government to crack on and do the job it has been told to do by the electorate. She needs to get on with it asap.
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