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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 20:22:01 GMT
Of course, she will walk after her Tory Brexit shambles! Just like Eden walked after Suez, Macmillan walked after Profumo, Thatcher walked after The Poll Tax, Cameron walked after the Referendum shambles he told E.U. leaders he would win by 20%! Popular? In 12 months she's delivered the square root of sweet fuck all! We'll see how popular she is in 10 years time when we can evaluate what she has done! That's why we're being asked to vote now before we can see the results of her Brexit! She has handed the people another vote before Brexit really starts in earnest, all those moaning whinging and basically crying because of the referendum result now have the chance to stop the process, best bet would be for you and the rest of the moaners is to vote Liberal, I can see a hung parliament with Jezza, Wee Jimmy Wanky, Gerry terrorist Adams and nice but dim Tim Farron cobbling a rag bag coalition together running the country , now that would be interesting much better than Chicken May Glad you agree that the Tory with so-called leadership abilities is none other than a Clucking chicken!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2017 20:45:53 GMT
She has handed the people another vote before Brexit really starts in earnest, all those moaning whinging and basically crying because of the referendum result now have the chance to stop the process, best bet would be for you and the rest of the moaners is to vote Liberal, I can see a hung parliament with Jezza, Wee Jimmy Wanky, Gerry terrorist Adams and nice but dim Tim Farron cobbling a rag bag coalition together running the country , now that would be interesting much better than Chicken May Glad you agree that the Tory with so-called leadership abilities is none other than a Clucking chicken! Indeed or a mother hen sitting on the Brexit egg she never wanted, maybe she feels our future lies with another party maybe she believes that Red cock Jezz could do a better job with Brexit, after all he is a career long anti EU campaigner well he was until he changed his stance pre the referendum, maybe tess saw that his heart was really not in the remain campaign and feels he really is the man to take us forward, over to you Labour supporters take us to the promised land.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 21:02:00 GMT
Glad you agree that the Tory with so-called leadership abilities is none other than a Clucking chicken! Indeed or a mother hen sitting on the Brexit egg she never wanted, maybe she feels our future lies with another party maybe she believes that Red cock Jezz could do a better job with Brexit, after all he is a career long anti EU campaigner well he was until he changed his stance pre the referendum, maybe tess saw that his heart was really not in the remain campaign and feels he really is the man to take us forward, over to you Labour supporters take us to the promised land. Promised land? I thought you were off to Espana?
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2017 21:19:33 GMT
Indeed or a mother hen sitting on the Brexit egg she never wanted, maybe she feels our future lies with another party maybe she believes that Red cock Jezz could do a better job with Brexit, after all he is a career long anti EU campaigner well he was until he changed his stance pre the referendum, maybe tess saw that his heart was really not in the remain campaign and feels he really is the man to take us forward, over to you Labour supporters take us to the promised land. Promised land? I thought you were off to Espana? Indeed I was speaking metaphorically, wherever I live I will still be English it is my heritage, my children and grandchildren will still be living in England. You and the other Labour supporters have the opportunity to vote out Clucking Tess and her fellow dirt scratching tory fowl brood, I have seen the light since Sir Nigel relinquished the UKIP reins we need a real anti EU leader to take us forward with Brexit that man has to be Red Cock Jezza the only one of the options available that has spent his whole political career opposing the EU dictatorship, he is the cock to do it
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 21:34:43 GMT
No the problem is people like you assuming anyone who doesn't vote Corbyn is a thick daily mail reader. You can't polish a turd people just don't like or trust Corbyn lifelong Labour strongholds like Sunderland and middlesboro seen set to turn blue. Today Lady Nugee was sent out to tell everyone how Labour will take on the elite whilst rubbishing McDonnell's policy announced yesterday off higher taxes on salaries over 70k, project catastrofuck strikes again. I've better things to do with my time than argue with an idiot like yourself. Meanwhile Mrs May runs scared of TV and public, 20 MP's under investigation are allowed to stand. What a fucking shambles. When calling someone an idiot best to make sure you've write something that makes sense otherwise you look a bit silly yourself. I'm fairly sure May is not running scared of "TV and public". Many Labour MP' s actually reckon 24% seriously over estimates the level of actual support.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 21:58:59 GMT
I've better things to do with my time than argue with an idiot like yourself. Meanwhile Mrs May runs scared of TV and public, 20 MP's under investigation are allowed to stand. What a fucking shambles. When calling someone an idiot best to make sure you've write something that makes sense otherwise you look a bit silly yourself. I'm fairly sure May is not running scared of "TV and public". Many Labour MP' s actually reckon 24% seriously over estimates the level of actual support. Of course, she's running scared of "TV and public." She's got all the personality of a tin of prunes! No wonder the Clucker-in-Chief won't do what most British people want her to do and that's debate the other party leaders? Not much to ask for is it?
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 22:14:03 GMT
When calling someone an idiot best to make sure you've write something that makes sense otherwise you look a bit silly yourself. I'm fairly sure May is not running scared of "TV and public". Many Labour MP' s actually reckon 24% seriously over estimates the level of actual support. Of course, she's running scared of "TV and public." She's got all the personality of a tin of prunes! No wonder the Clucker-in-Chief won't do what most British people want her to do and that's debate the other party leaders? Not much to ask for is it? Well 54% of people want her to be PM, 51% is a majority you do realise She doesn't need to take a rent a min with her to boo journalists who ask questions they don't like, doesn't create the right impression makes him look like some sort of unhinged want to be dictator. Still at least Unite haven't just suspended the leadership contender who is polling ahead of Red Len on the day Jezza was railing against stitch ups, oops.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2017 22:14:16 GMT
When calling someone an idiot best to make sure you've write something that makes sense otherwise you look a bit silly yourself. I'm fairly sure May is not running scared of "TV and public". Many Labour MP' s actually reckon 24% seriously over estimates the level of actual support. Of course, she's running scared of "TV and public." She's got all the personality of a tin of prunes! No wonder the Clucker-in-Chief won't do what most British people want her to do and that's debate the other party leaders? Not much to ask for is it? Red cock Jezza will win this election hands down, he has Clucking Tess on the chicken run you should be crowing from the roof tops, he has all his ducks lined up the nest is feathered all ready for king cock to stake his claim, he is top of the pecking order how can he loose against such a weak old broiler George Orwell would have loved this scenario.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 22:18:36 GMT
Of course, she's running scared of "TV and public." She's got all the personality of a tin of prunes! No wonder the Clucker-in-Chief won't do what most British people want her to do and that's debate the other party leaders? Not much to ask for is it? Red cock Jezza will win this election hands down, he has Clucking Tess on the chicken run you should be crowing from the roof tops, he has all his ducks lined up the nest is feathered all ready for king cock to stake his claim, he is top of the pecking order how can he loose against such a weak old broiler George Orwell would have loved this scenario. Once again 'crapslinger' I salute your perception that we have a "weak old broiler" as P.M.! Not mutton dressed up as lamb but a broiler dressed up as chicken!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 22:31:17 GMT
Red cock Jezza will win this election hands down, he has Clucking Tess on the chicken run you should be crowing from the roof tops, he has all his ducks lined up the nest is feathered all ready for king cock to stake his claim, he is top of the pecking order how can he loose against such a weak old broiler George Orwell would have loved this scenario. Once again 'crapslinger' I salute your perception that we have a "weak old broiler" as P.M.! Not mutton dressed up as lamb but a broiler dressed up as chicken! Attachment DeletedNice picture.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 22:47:11 GMT
According to spokesperson Dawn Butler, Labour have a rolling manifesto WTF, does that mean they make it up as they go along ?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 20, 2017 22:56:14 GMT
According to spokesperson Dawn Butler, Labour have a rolling manifesto WTF, does that mean they make it up as they go along ? It sounds like she's talking about the fact that stuff is still getting sorted, and things may not be announced all at once. www.scoopnest.com/user/BBCNewsnight/855177134318395392I'm no fan of Labour under Corbyn, but at the moment they have as much of a manifesto as every other party - which is none at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 23:00:58 GMT
According to spokesperson Dawn Butler, Labour have a rolling manifesto WTF, does that mean they make it up as they go along ? Listening to her it seems that she means " We haven't got a clue " Which confirms what many already knew .
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 20, 2017 23:12:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 23:36:44 GMT
There would be little point in him standing as a UKIP candidate now .
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 21, 2017 5:28:32 GMT
Of course, she will walk after her Tory Brexit shambles! Just like Eden walked after Suez, Macmillan walked after Profumo, Thatcher walked after The Poll Tax, Cameron walked after the Referendum shambles he told E.U. leaders he would win by 20%! Popular? In 12 months she's delivered the square root of sweet fuck all! We'll see how popular she is in 10 years time when we can evaluate what she has done! That's why we're being asked to vote now before we can see the results of her Brexit! She has handed the people another vote before Brexit really starts in earnest, all those moaning whinging and basically crying because of the referendum result now have the chance to stop the process, best bet would be for you and the rest of the moaners is to vote Liberal, I can see a hung parliament with Jezza, Wee Jimmy Wanky, Gerry terrorist Adams and nice but dim Tim Farron cobbling a rag bag coalition together running the country , now that would be interesting much better than Chicken May Isn't this why she's called the election. She knows that Bozer & Davis haven't & wont make any ground in their targets for getting us out of the EU. Again, it's the Torys throwing their toys up in the air & hoping the come down tidied & when she hasn't got the mandate she wants, she can throw the towel in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 5:59:13 GMT
Can't help to be worried about this election All these remainers clawing for a chance to reverse a democratic vote Yet With all the promising words from our prime minister I still can't forget how she was such a staunch remainer for many years (one of the biggest) Suddenly she calls an election Would she fluff it up, take a bullet so to speak to rebalance control to the Brussels boys, setting up a very comfortable life for herself and family with the world elite I'm being silly aren't I ?
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 21, 2017 6:05:48 GMT
I think all parties are rather pleased with the early election and will be happy to see a Tory Goverment in place with a substantial majority to 2022.
Why?
For the Tories it's obvious. They exist for one purpose only: power. And power in the here and now. So they get that in spades.
For the SNP they get a "get out of jail free" card from having to proceed with indyref2 in the next couple of years that they know they will lose. They also know a protracted period of Tory Westminster domination will allow them to ratchet up the grievance meter regardless of what happens in the real world. Plus voting demographics says later is better than earlier for them. Indy ref in 2028 has a much bigger chance of success than in 2018.
For Labour they know Brexit is unavoidable. They also know it will be problematic (to put it mildly). It will therefore offer massive opportunities for them to highlight real or perceived blunders the Tories make in their negotiations. Every single negative associated with Brexit over the next 5 years, before and after we leave, will be portrayed by them not as a consequence of Brexit but due to the appalling management of the negotiations by the Tories. Oh - they can also ditch Corbyn.
For the Lib Dems they get the chance to up their vote share and maybe pick up a few seats after their humiliation in 2015.
For the rest, who cares!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 6:24:51 GMT
Can't help to be worried about this election All these remainers clawing for a chance to reverse a democratic vote Yet With all the promising words from our prime minister I still can't forget how she was such a staunch remainer for many years (one of the biggest) Suddenly she calls an election Would she fluff it up, take a bullet so to speak to rebalance control to the Brussels boys, setting up a very comfortable life for herself and family with the world elite I'm being silly aren't I ? Yes, it was a democratic vote! I'm quite happy about that? But the only reason the Leavers are running scared of either a Commons vote or a second referendum is that the E.U. have a red line that says the U.K. will do worse out compared to staying in? So, that means job losses, the deficit will go up[the O.B.R. already show the costs of the Referendum vote on the deficit now!], inflation would have been more than 2.3% last month if Easter had fallen in March like last year. Inflation is going up to 3.0%. Ask yourself this question? If inflation is 3.0% in the autumn, will May with a bigger majority give 1.Pensioners the triple lock i.e.3.0%? 2.Income Support at the same rate,3.0%? 3.Disability benefits at 3.0%? 4.Housing Benefit at 3.0%? 5.In work benefits at 3.0%? 6.Public sector pay at 3.0%? Yes, Mary there's a rebalancing going on alright! To use an Americanism, the poor and workers on low pay are being stiffed to pay the price of yours, roge's, Bill Cash's, John Redwood's and many other "fruitcakes and loons" obsession with the E.U.!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 6:59:23 GMT
Can't help to be worried about this election All these remainers clawing for a chance to reverse a democratic vote Yet With all the promising words from our prime minister I still can't forget how she was such a staunch remainer for many years (one of the biggest) Suddenly she calls an election Would she fluff it up, take a bullet so to speak to rebalance control to the Brussels boys, setting up a very comfortable life for herself and family with the world elite I'm being silly aren't I ? Yes, it was a democratic vote! I'm quite happy about that? But the only reason the Leavers are running scared of either a Commons vote or a second referendum is that the E.U. have a red line that says the U.K. will do worse out compared to staying in? So, that means job losses, the deficit will go up[the O.B.R. already show the costs of the Referendum vote on the deficit now!], inflation would have been more than 2.3% last month if Easter had fallen in March like last year. Inflation is going up to 3.0%. Ask yourself this question? If inflation is 3.0% in the autumn, will May with a bigger majority give 1.Pensioners the triple lock i.e.3.0%? 2.Income Support at the same rate,3.0%? 3.Disability benefits at 3.0%? 4.Housing Benefit at 3.0%? 5.In work benefits at 3.0%? 6.Public sector pay at 3.0%? Yes, Mary there's a rebalancing going on alright! To use an Americanism, the poor and workers on low pay are being stiffed to pay the price of yours, roge's, Bill Cash's, John Redwood's and many other "fruitcakes and loons" obsession with the E.U.!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 7:20:18 GMT
Yes, it was a democratic vote! I'm quite happy about that? But the only reason the Leavers are running scared of either a Commons vote or a second referendum is that the E.U. have a red line that says the U.K. will do worse out compared to staying in? So, that means job losses, the deficit will go up[the O.B.R. already show the costs of the Referendum vote on the deficit now!], inflation would have been more than 2.3% last month if Easter had fallen in March like last year. Inflation is going up to 3.0%. Ask yourself this question? If inflation is 3.0% in the autumn, will May with a bigger majority give 1.Pensioners the triple lock i.e.3.0%? 2.Income Support at the same rate,3.0%? 3.Disability benefits at 3.0%? 4.Housing Benefit at 3.0%? 5.In work benefits at 3.0%? 6.Public sector pay at 3.0%? Yes, Mary there's a rebalancing going on alright! To use an Americanism, the poor and workers on low pay are being stiffed to pay the price of yours, roge's, Bill Cash's, John Redwood's and many other "fruitcakes and loons" obsession with the E.U.! Is that the best you can do for an answer? No wonder Cameron called you lot, "fruitcakes and loons" or was it "loons and fruitcakes"?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 7:52:48 GMT
Is that the best you can do for an answer? No wonder Cameron called you lot, "fruitcakes and loons" or was it "loons and fruitcakes"? "So that means ...so that means....so that means...blah blah blah. weve heard it all before nick...it was bollox then and it's bolloc now you know well I could write an essay this very minute replying to each of your points, but it isn't going to make no difference to your view If you believe everything you are fed that's fine mate theres no way I will be happy to let my country be swallowed up by an unelectected unmovable body .....and I'll add.....crackpots to a man. heard all the threats, scare stories.....just makes me want to push for hard Brexit regardless of any deals my post was about mrs may
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 7:57:22 GMT
Is that the best you can do for an answer? No wonder Cameron called you lot, "fruitcakes and loons" or was it "loons and fruitcakes"? "So that means ...so that means....so that means...blah blah blah. weve heard it all before nick...it was bollox then and it's bolloc now you know well I could write an essay this very minute replying to each of your points, but it isn't going to make no difference to your view If you believe everything you are fed that's fine mate theres no way I will be happy to let my country be swallowed up by an unelectected unmovable body .....and I'll add.....crackpots to a man. heard all the threats, scare stories.....just makes me want to push for hard Brexit regardless of any deals my post was about mrs may Believe everything I'm fed? That's a bit rich from someone whose idea of independent thought is to continually quote, 'The Daily Express'?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 8:01:50 GMT
"So that means ...so that means....so that means...blah blah blah. weve heard it all before nick...it was bollox then and it's bolloc now you know well I could write an essay this very minute replying to each of your points, but it isn't going to make no difference to your view If you believe everything you are fed that's fine mate theres no way I will be happy to let my country be swallowed up by an unelectected unmovable body .....and I'll add.....crackpots to a man. heard all the threats, scare stories.....just makes me want to push for hard Brexit regardless of any deals my post was about mrs may Believe everything I'm fed? That's a bit rich from someone whose idea of independent thought is to continually quote, 'The Daily Express'? yes ok mr angry
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 8:44:29 GMT
Believe everything I'm fed? That's a bit rich from someone whose idea of independent thought is to continually quote, 'The Daily Express'? yes ok mr angry I'm just looking for a simple answer to my question? Will Clucker if she gets a big majority in June uprate pensions, benefits, pay etc. in line with inflation which will be ca.3%. Furthermore, how many private sector workers after the autumn will get a 3% pay rise? 'Mary', you've been a massive anti-E.U. advocate but could you please give us all some answers now we have triggered Article 50? What's holding you back? Not angry just quizzical?
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 21, 2017 8:52:14 GMT
I think all parties are rather pleased with the early election and will be happy to see a Tory Goverment in place with a substantial majority to 2022. Why? For the Tories it's obvious. They exist for one purpose only: power. And power in the here and now. So they get that in spades. For the SNP they get a "get out of jail free" card from having to proceed with indyref2 in the next couple of years that they know they will lose. They also know a protracted period of Tory Westminster domination will allow them to ratchet up the grievance meter regardless of what happens in the real world. Plus voting demographics says later is better than earlier for them. Indy ref in 2028 has a much bigger chance of success than in 2018. For Labour they know Brexit is unavoidable. They also know it will be problematic (to put it mildly). It will therefore offer massive opportunities for them to highlight real or perceived blunders the Tories make in their negotiations. Every single negative associated with Brexit over the next 5 years, before and after we leave, will be portrayed by them not as a consequence of Brexit but due to the appalling management of the negotiations by the Tories. Oh - they can also ditch Corbyn. For the Lib Dems they get the chance to up their vote share and maybe pick up a few seats after their humiliation in 2015. For the rest, who cares! Also, UKIP's leadership is weak at the moment.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 21, 2017 8:57:14 GMT
Can't help to be worried about this election All these remainers clawing for a chance to reverse a democratic vote Yet With all the promising words from our prime minister I still can't forget how she was such a staunch remainer for many years (one of the biggest) Suddenly she calls an election Would she fluff it up, take a bullet so to speak to rebalance control to the Brussels boys, setting up a very comfortable life for herself and family with the world elite I'm being silly aren't I ? That's what it's all about, mate. Brexit won't mean Brexit at all after this second referendum. Mealy mouthed bastards like Farron and Corbyn will team up with Sturgeon so it gets watered down into nothing. 8 out of 10 MP's wanted to remain and only reluctantly gave us the vote, then the government spent £9 million trying to scare us to death. They misjudged public opinion badly, but instead of admitting it, they want to overturn a referendum result(whatever they say). Students will be galvanized into voting(although most of them couldn't be arsed to first time around)and the wanky left wing media will hammer away at May and Brexit again. For years people were told to vote, or they had no right to moan about the result. Now they are being told "Fuck your vote, WE decide what happens, not you". How anybody, regardless of their stance on the E.U. can be happy with that is beyond me.
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 21, 2017 9:09:11 GMT
yes ok mr angry I'm just looking for a simple answer to my question? Will Clucker if she gets a big majority in June uprate pensions, benefits, pay etc. in line with inflation which will be ca.3%. Furthermore, how many private sector workers after the autumn will get a 3% pay rise? 'Mary', you've been a massive anti-E.U. advocate but could you please give us all some answers now we have triggered Article 50? What's holding you back? Not angry just quizzical? you could send a glass eye too sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 9:15:18 GMT
I'm just looking for a simple answer to my question? Will Clucker if she gets a big majority in June uprate pensions, benefits, pay etc. in line with inflation which will be ca.3%. Furthermore, how many private sector workers after the autumn will get a 3% pay rise? 'Mary', you've been a massive anti-E.U. advocate but could you please give us all some answers now we have triggered Article 50? What's holding you back? Not angry just quizzical? you could send a glass eye too sleep. I've suffered insomnia for some time now ......reading his posts enabled me to get a good nights sleep or two recently .....carry on the good work Nick.
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 21, 2017 9:17:02 GMT
Can't help to be worried about this election All these remainers clawing for a chance to reverse a democratic vote Yet With all the promising words from our prime minister I still can't forget how she was such a staunch remainer for many years (one of the biggest) Suddenly she calls an election Would she fluff it up, take a bullet so to speak to rebalance control to the Brussels boys, setting up a very comfortable life for herself and family with the world elite I'm being silly aren't I ? Yes, it was a democratic vote! I'm quite happy about that? But the only reason the Leavers are running scared of either a Commons vote or a second referendum is that the E.U. have a red line that says the U.K. will do worse out compared to staying in? So, that means job losses, the deficit will go up[the O.B.R. already show the costs of the Referendum vote on the deficit now!], inflation would have been more than 2.3% last month if Easter had fallen in March like last year. Inflation is going up to 3.0%. Ask yourself this question? If inflation is 3.0% in the autumn, will May with a bigger majority give 1.Pensioners the triple lock i.e.3.0%? 2.Income Support at the same rate,3.0%? 3.Disability benefits at 3.0%? 4.Housing Benefit at 3.0%? 5.In work benefits at 3.0%? 6.Public sector pay at 3.0%? Yes, Mary there's a rebalancing going on alright! To use an Americanism, the poor and workers on low pay are being stiffed to pay the price of yours, roge's, Bill Cash's, John Redwood's and many other "fruitcakes and loons" obsession with the E.U.! The Conservatives have already announced a freeze on benefits for the next 4 years and that means a real term benefits cut for all as well as the other cuts ie 2 kid child benefit, disability benefit etc these were announced by George Osborn but came in at beginning of April has left some people down south with the benefits cap on 50p housing benefit and a high risk of being kicked out on the street.
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