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Post by hammered on Apr 20, 2017 1:06:15 GMT
Spit - actually I do think Brexit the most significant thing this country has done for decades and a necessary given the bleak global rhetoric and presumed outcome. To be frank, scary times given the despots with big tools.
Of course we have major UK issues to deal with but we're in the middle of a global re-shuffle etc.. how we play through this re-alignment will have a greater bearing than moving income tax bands and social housing.
As Rog, Mary, Big John, Crappy, DC and a few others have espoused - the EU is really not what you've been taught to believe. In fact the Nazi's having legitimately bought up most of France's heavy industry before WW2, divied up the spoils after Normandy but before VE. This same cartel less than 20 yrs later formed the EEC. Are you comprende?
70 years on etc....
As for May - so what she was a remainer - I'll judge her on her deeds.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 20, 2017 3:05:36 GMT
"Vicious right wingery" :-)
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 6:15:02 GMT
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-stay-on-leader-labour-party-general-election-2017-party-conference-a7691911.htmlThis idea that a big loss means Jezza goes and the fightback begins, maybe not so much, McDonnell rule to be bought in so leadership candidate only needs 5% of MP's rather than 15% to basically make sure there will always be a hard left candidate who the £3 momentum loons can return as leader. One MP told The Independent: "They have to acknowledge that if the result is as bad as the polling and the Copeland by-election result suggest, then they are responsible. I've heard of project fear. This sounds like project catastro-fuck."
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 20, 2017 6:35:41 GMT
May (who looks like my mum) will deliver IMO. Billy!!! Hammers Mother looks like Theresa... Would you!?!
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 6:38:29 GMT
Tim farron “If you want a Britain that is open, tolerant and united, this is your chance.” Says the man who won't answer a question on whether homosexuality is a sin Farron has a big problem with this. For sure if Nick Clegg was still the leader I'd be be getting in bed with the LibDems. Either way I expect we will hear shortly from Tim Farron that it is not a sin, he surely can't leave this one hanging or his 'liberal' credentials are in tatters. Far be it from me to defend Nice but Dim Tim but I believe his voting record on gay rights / marriage proves he has backed it pretty much every time, weird that he couldn't come out and say no its not a sin or the bible says if you're sued give them your shirt and coat and I don't pay attention to that either. It seems he probably does believe it is a sin but will put aside his own beliefs / principles whatever you want to call them and do the right thing (on this matter anyway), quite a contrast with Mr Corbyn whose own beliefs override everything.
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 20, 2017 6:54:40 GMT
Farron has a big problem with this. For sure if Nick Clegg was still the leader I'd be be getting in bed with the LibDems. Either way I expect we will hear shortly from Tim Farron that it is not a sin, he surely can't leave this one hanging or his 'liberal' credentials are in tatters. Far be it from me to defend Nice but Dim Tim but I believe his voting record on gay rights / marriage proves he has backed it pretty much every time, weird that he couldn't come out and say no its not a sin or the bible says if you're sued give them your shirt and coat and I don't pay attention to that either. It seems he probably does believe it is a sin but will put aside his own beliefs / principles whatever you want to call them and do the right thing (on this matter anyway), quite a contrast with Mr Corbyn whose own beliefs override everything. As the vicars daughter, Someone should ask the gay marriage question of Theresa...
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Post by felonious on Apr 20, 2017 7:18:12 GMT
Far be it from me to defend Nice but Dim Tim but I believe his voting record on gay rights / marriage proves he has backed it pretty much every time, weird that he couldn't come out and say no its not a sin or the bible says if you're sued give them your shirt and coat and I don't pay attention to that either. It seems he probably does believe it is a sin but will put aside his own beliefs / principles whatever you want to call them and do the right thing (on this matter anyway), quite a contrast with Mr Corbyn whose own beliefs override everything. As the vicars daughter, Someone should ask the gay marriage question of Theresa... Big assumption here that the C of E is intolerant. I remember being at one of the local vicar's soirees some years back in the presence of atheists, Jews and homosexuals. The difficulty was spotting a Christian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 7:19:44 GMT
Nick clegg moaning that the government are Brexit obsessed. Says the liberal man who's party talk about nothing else While pushing to overturn the results of a democratic vote cunt
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 7:24:43 GMT
Nick clegg moaning that the government are Brexit obsessed. Says the liberal man who's party talk about nothing else While pushing to overturn the results of a democratic vote cunt Nick Clegg moaning the government is going to brexit more like, here's the second referendum he wanted, time for him to start the hand wringing for the third go.....
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 20, 2017 7:26:16 GMT
Spit - actually I do think Brexit the most significant thing this country has done for decades and a necessary given the bleak global rhetoric and presumed outcome. To be frank, scary times given the despots with big tools. Of course we have major UK issues to deal with but we're in the middle of a global re-shuffle etc.. how we play through this re-alignment will have a greater bearing than moving income tax bands and social housing. As Rog, Mary, Big John, Crappy, DC and a few others have espoused - the EU is really not what you've been taught to believe. In fact the Nazi's having legitimately bought up most of France's heavy industry before WW2, divied up the spoils after Normandy but before VE. This same cartel less than 20 yrs later formed the EEC. Are you comprende? 70 years on etc.... As for May - so what she was a remainer - I'll judge her on her deeds. Hammered, cartels serve to fix prices artificially high, is that what the EU does today?
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 20, 2017 7:41:37 GMT
Some good debate but where would we be if Remain had won? Would we still have dodgy Dave and George smarming their Oxfordness/having this election? Would Jezza have whipped his mob into a creamy half baked meringue - Nah? who knows? - point is the Referendum decided the narrative and put a lot of local/regional stuff down the to-do list. I voted UKIP last few elections and have always vote with head (or common (suits me) sense) rather than tradition or loyalty. And as much as I think the NHS should be ring-fenced financially and politically and council housing/looking after our own a priority etc.. right now we need a sort of Churchillian type single mindedness to get the deed done and move on. May (who looks like my mum) will deliver IMO. Do you really think Europe is the most single important issue? Bigger than losing a NHS? Will you be happy to spend your life savings on your health care. We had a referendum and we are committed to out whoever gets in. May was for staying in. She changes ship like the weather. She'll just make this a tax haven for super rich, we'll get nowt or worse, get screwed. The Europe deal will be a disaster under May that's why she's busy licking the arses of the Saudis and Trump. They'll make her beg for crumbs. The only reason she called this election is because 24 Tory MPs are about to get nicked for fraud. Nowt to do with Brexit. That is a complete hoax. We don't need another referendum on it. If we had a half decent media they would querying why a PM calls for a referendum on something that has already been decided. Is that the election scandal from the last election where the conservatives candidates in key marginal had there election expenses illegally paid by Conservative central office and workers etc put up in Hotels paid for by conservative central office and none of this declared on local campaign accounts so breaking the spending limits and meaning that in effect they bought those seats or is it something else they did that was corrupt?
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 7:49:46 GMT
Nick clegg moaning that the government are Brexit obsessed. Says the liberal man who's party talk about nothing else While pushing to overturn the results of a democratic vote cunt Nick Clegg moaning the government is going to brexit more like, here's the second referendum he wanted, time for him to start the hand wringing for the third go..... Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 7:53:41 GMT
May (who looks like my mum) will deliver IMO. Billy!!! Hammers Mother looks like Theresa... Would you!?! M/s May will deliver alright..same way Slaven Bilic has delivered! Serves you bunch of Essex barrow boys right too!
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 20, 2017 7:53:57 GMT
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 8:08:24 GMT
I think Chicken May has got her right hand on the ugly bloke's cock? No wonder he looks pained!
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 8:20:00 GMT
Spit - actually I do think Brexit the most significant thing this country has done for decades and a necessary given the bleak global rhetoric and presumed outcome. To be frank, scary times given the despots with big tools. Of course we have major UK issues to deal with but we're in the middle of a global re-shuffle etc.. how we play through this re-alignment will have a greater bearing than moving income tax bands and social housing. As Rog, Mary, Big John, Crappy, DC and a few others have espoused - the EU is really not what you've been taught to believe. In fact the Nazi's having legitimately bought up most of France's heavy industry before WW2, divied up the spoils after Normandy but before VE. This same cartel less than 20 yrs later formed the EEC. Are you comprende? 70 years on etc.... As for May - so what she was a remainer - I'll judge her on her deeds. Hammered, cartels serve to fix prices artificially high, is that what the EU does today? Yes in short, it keeps out non EU goods and services with tariffs which can drive inefficiency, the guy from Wetherspoons has been quoted as saying he buys 95% of his wine from Australia, Zealand, South Africa and South America because it's cheaper than wine from EU even with tariffs.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 20, 2017 8:23:49 GMT
Nick Clegg moaning the government is going to brexit more like, here's the second referendum he wanted, time for him to start the hand wringing for the third go..... Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief! No it really is a second referendum vote Liberal democrats, Green or SNP to remain. Vote UKIP or Tory to leave, vote Labour or spoil your ballot if you're unsure or not bothered.
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 20, 2017 8:36:27 GMT
I think Chicken May has got her right hand on the ugly bloke's cock? No wonder he looks pained! WTF Did Ugly Bloke get that suit. How did a fat bloke like him find a suit 5 sizes too big... Oh wait :-
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 20, 2017 8:36:30 GMT
Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief! No it really is a second referendum vote Liberal democrats, Green or SNP to remain. Vote UKIP or Tory to leave, vote Labour or spoil your ballot if you're unsure or not bothered. Dead right. MP's voted to have the referendum, but most of them wanted to remain. They wouldn't have given us the vote if they thought for a minute Brexit would happen, and they've done everything to scupper it since; they'll probably join forces to keep the Tories out. Now we will have weeks of bullshit from all sides again because they couldn't honour the result. I'm beginning to wonder if this hasn't been some kind of fit up all along.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 20, 2017 8:48:00 GMT
Spit - actually I do think Brexit the most significant thing this country has done for decades and a necessary given the bleak global rhetoric and presumed outcome. To be frank, scary times given the despots with big tools. Of course we have major UK issues to deal with but we're in the middle of a global re-shuffle etc.. how we play through this re-alignment will have a greater bearing than moving income tax bands and social housing. As Rog, Mary, Big John, Crappy, DC and a few others have espoused - the EU is really not what you've been taught to believe. In fact the Nazi's having legitimately bought up most of France's heavy industry before WW2, divied up the spoils after Normandy but before VE. This same cartel less than 20 yrs later formed the EEC. Are you comprende? 70 years on etc.... As for May - so what she was a remainer - I'll judge her on her deeds. I'm the last person to be celebrating the EU Apart from the fraud issue (which I think has cornered May) I also think this snap election is because May now realises she cant deliver Brexit before 2020 and that will impact on her electability then. If she can get in she will get 5 years to figure it out with no such pressure (she'll retire a multi millionaire then anyway) She's asking us to support her for something for which she has no strategy. That would have been obvious by 2020. 5 years gives her leg room. My premise being, you can never, ever trust Tories. They lie to each other and they lie to us. Its in their blood, its how they got where they are. Its a very gross mistake to treat this as a referendum (as the media will make it). A General Election is not a referendum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 8:48:44 GMT
Nick Clegg moaning the government is going to brexit more like, here's the second referendum he wanted, time for him to start the hand wringing for the third go..... Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief! So you keep on saying
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 9:04:50 GMT
Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief! So you keep on saying Will you Tories be putting in the manifesto you are banning all opponents of Kim-II-May from complaining about her lies, her u-turns, her deceits? Isn't that the world you Chickenistas want to live in?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 9:08:03 GMT
So you keep on saying Will you Tories be putting in the manifesto you are banning all opponents of Kim-II-May from complaining about her lies, her u-turns, her deceits? Isn't that the world you Chickenistas want to live in? You are becoming obsessive Nick .....calm down it's only a commercial
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 9:15:42 GMT
Will you Tories be putting in the manifesto you are banning all opponents of Kim-II-May from complaining about her lies, her u-turns, her deceits? Isn't that the world you Chickenistas want to live in? You are becoming obsessive Nick .....calm down it's only a commercial A commercial for what? Has Chicken May signed up to do commercials for K.F.C.?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 20, 2017 9:22:17 GMT
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 20, 2017 9:27:46 GMT
Oi Nicholas, I know you love your 'Russian stooge' theories, and I also know that you're a big fan of Louise Mensch... But Louise Mensch is a former Tory M.P.! She was hardly going to say, Theresa May is an agent of Putin who wants the destruction of the E.U.? Who knows? When Chicken May disappeared for months during the Referendum she might have been in a safe house near Moscow courtesy of Vladimir Putin? With all your contacts, I'm sure you can shed some light on this theory?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 20, 2017 9:35:26 GMT
Nick Clegg moaning the government is going to brexit more like, here's the second referendum he wanted, time for him to start the hand wringing for the third go..... Again more Tory lies! This is not a second referendum but a general election! It is not after we know what M/s May has negotiated but conveniently three years early! If you keep this up you'll soon replace Dr Goebbels as Tory Liar-in-Chief! How very dare you!? I thought we were friends? Threatening to give away my title indeed! :-)
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 20, 2017 9:42:57 GMT
Is the irony lost on everyone? had the Labour Party ditched Corbyn and had a new age right of left leader, they would be sitting pretty at the moment. I would love to vote Labour, its in my blood but I can not vote for a party with this wanker in charge. I just cant. Why is he a wanker? Is it that he because he doesn't agree with the ongoing privatisation of the NHS? Is it that he agrees that there should be a massive investment in social housing instead of propping up millionaire landlords? Is it that he wants to ensure a decent education to all schoolkids, not just the top 20-30% whose parents can afford extra tuition and who know the secret handshake? Is it that he wants to tax the multi billion pound companies effectively and not donate £700-800 million to companies that pick on disabled folk? Is it that he wants a minimum wage that is worth earning? So the benefit system doesn't have to "prop up" multi nationals etc. etc. etc. I'll wait for the terrorist loving, baby eater Daily Mail bollocks reply from the usual suspects. Try listening to what he actually says, not to what you are told he has said. He certainly sounds like Labour to me That's the problem, people are not listening and forming opinion from the Daily Mail.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 20, 2017 9:46:32 GMT
But Louise Mensch is a former Tory M.P.! She was hardly going to say, Theresa May is an agent of Putin who wants the destruction of the E.U.? Who knows? When Chicken May disappeared for months during the Referendum she might have been in a safe house near Moscow courtesy of Vladimir Putin? With all your contacts, I'm sure you can shed some light on this theory? My contacts tell me that it's nothing to do with them, Corbyn, just like Hillary, is simply a terrible candidate. If the left would stop putting forward such un-electable people then the US wouldn't be lumbered with The Don, and Great Britain wouldn't be about to be lumbered with 5 more years of Theresa May & Tory rule.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 20, 2017 9:48:32 GMT
If you genuinely think these are the policies of some extreme left winger then you really are a bit stupid.
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