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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 11:43:32 GMT
He is pretty amusing as well to be fair. But I don't suppose comedy ability is a measure of a good leader. But he wasn't wrong about everything. And he got accused of a lot that has since been proven wrong. But despite that for me he's a loose cannon and should not be president. But neither should Biden. He's a complete puppet. With several hands up his arse. Biden for all his faults knows the value of having Ally's in order to keep the freedoms we all have today. Trump I feel will leave the US isolated if he managed to follow through with his intentions. It would be ok for them for a while but it would be like handing over the baton in the real world. The US's biggest mistake would be to think they don't need anyone else. And let’s face it, who is going to pick up that baton other than China? No one is remotely well positioned enough. With that, comes a shift towards their ideals and policies.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2024 11:49:31 GMT
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 26, 2024 12:16:19 GMT
oh ok.. I change my mind then...is that better Just stop lying for effect, it's boring Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter..
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Post by thisisouryear on Jan 26, 2024 14:34:07 GMT
Biden for all his faults knows the value of having Ally's in order to keep the freedoms we all have today. Trump I feel will leave the US isolated if he managed to follow through with his intentions. It would be ok for them for a while but it would be like handing over the baton in the real world. The US's biggest mistake would be to think they don't need anyone else. And let’s face it, who is going to pick up that baton other than China? No one is remotely well positioned enough. With that, comes a shift towards their ideals and policies. Once that shift happens China will make sure there is no way back for the US. The US may find that they are the ones under severe sanctions as well as anyone that trades with them once China and Russia become too dogs. Trump's intentions would be clear if he tried to change the rules so that he can keep running for Presidency.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 26, 2024 14:35:44 GMT
Just stop lying for effect, it's boring Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. You support a man who mistook his second wife for a woman who he raped, while claiming she wasn’t his type.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 26, 2024 16:31:46 GMT
Just stop lying for effect, it's boring Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. Are you qualified to vote in the US Presidential election? If not how can you be a Trump supporter when you can't actually support him?
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Post by lordb on Jan 26, 2024 23:09:28 GMT
Just stop lying for effect, it's boring Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. You opined that Biden was more scary Thats clearly a big fat lie
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 26, 2024 23:33:48 GMT
Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. You opined that Biden was more scary Thats clearly a big fat lie Not sure I agree. Biden is scary as fuck. The man is visibly on a rapid mental downward trajectory. And trump is cognitively a bit fucking nuts as well. And when that's our offer for leader of the free world......yeah I'm very concerned. Trump might be a prick but Biden is most definitely a massive concern. And to think otherwise is either foolish or you're just paying too much attention to orange man bad.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 26, 2024 23:43:05 GMT
Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. You opined that Biden was more scary Thats clearly a big fat lie You know the story about Biden stealing Kinnocks miners speech. And him lying about his university results. And his many racist comments. You need to speak jungle down the 9/11 nowadays, racial jungles blah blah. Biden is a fuckwit and so is trump. Both sides fucking terrible...
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 3:41:36 GMT
Ah right. So if I have a different opinion to you I am lying... Now I know what the "b" stands for. I've said numerous times I am a Trump supporter.. You opined that Biden was more scary Thats clearly a big fat lie Err no... It's my opinion. No opinion is a lie, simply by definition...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 27, 2024 5:31:29 GMT
Is a rapist
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 8:45:09 GMT
Do you have tangible proof of that. If so it is your moral duty to present your evidence to the authorities
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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 27, 2024 9:01:56 GMT
Do you have tangible proof of that. If so it is your moral duty to present your evidence to the authorities An American judge has found Donald Trump to be a rapist. You can look it up on the internet.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 9:05:24 GMT
Do you have tangible proof of that. If so it is your moral duty to present your evidence to the authorities An American judge has found Donald Trump to be a rapist. You can look it up on the internet. So why is he not in prison. Was he found guilty by trial and a jury.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 27, 2024 9:33:31 GMT
An American judge has found Donald Trump to be a rapist. You can look it up on the internet. So why is he not in prison. Was he found guilty by trial and a jury. See here for details of the case www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carrollHe was found guilty of penetrating his victim with his fingers which, as the judge himself stated, is generally recognised as rape. However in New York, where the case was heard, the crime of "rape" is defined as penetration with a penis so could not be prosecuted in those terms. He has now been found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay Carroll 83m dollars BBC News - Donald Trump must pay $83.3m for defaming E Jean Carroll www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68109999. Of course his supporters won't believe their hero is a rapist and refuse to accept the conclusion of the jurors who based their decision on the available evidence. Were you not aware of this case or have you chosen to ignore it or just decided to take Trumps word that he isn't a rapist?
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Post by lordb on Jan 27, 2024 9:34:57 GMT
An American judge has found Donald Trump to be a rapist. You can look it up on the internet. So why is he not in prison. Was he found guilty by trial and a jury. Ignorance is bliss
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 27, 2024 10:22:37 GMT
Do you have tangible proof of that. If so it is your moral duty to present your evidence to the authorities It has been proven. You don't seem to know an awful lot about this man you claim to 'support' do you?
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 27, 2024 11:16:39 GMT
Do you have tangible proof of that. If so it is your moral duty to present your evidence to the authorities It has been proven. You don't seem to know an awful lot about this man you claim to 'support' do you? To be fair I've googled about this and I can't find a rape conviction. I can find a civil lawsuit with a sexual abuse determination but not a federal rape conviction. And I note quite a few women have threatened further sexual abuse charges so I'm not saying he's not a wrong un by any stretch...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2024 11:22:11 GMT
It has been proven. You don't seem to know an awful lot about this man you claim to 'support' do you? To be fair I've googled about this and I can't find a rape conviction. I can find a civil lawsuit with a sexual abuse determination but not a federal rape conviction. And I note quite a few women have threatened further sexual abuse charges so I'm not saying he's not a wrong un by any stretch... Yes, it was sexual assault by a technicality. I don’t really know how they could have proven it to be honest but the burden of proof is far lower in a civil court. That said, I don’t think that it’s that hard NOT to be found guilty of sexual assault in a civil court. I’ve never been tried with it and I’d like to think everyone on this board hasn’t either. I don’t really want to take orders from sex offenders to be honest.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 27, 2024 11:26:30 GMT
To be fair I've googled about this and I can't find a rape conviction. I can find a civil lawsuit with a sexual abuse determination but not a federal rape conviction. And I note quite a few women have threatened further sexual abuse charges so I'm not saying he's not a wrong un by any stretch... Yes, it was sexual assault by a technicality. I don’t really know how they could have proven it to be honest but the burden of proof is far lower in a civil court. That said, I don’t think that it’s that hard NOT to be found guilty of sexual assault in a civil court. I’ve never been tried with it and I’d like to think everyone on this board hasn’t either. I don’t really want to take orders from sex offenders to be honest. Guess that's why they call him the Teflon Don 🙄 🤔
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Jan 27, 2024 11:26:57 GMT
It has been proven. You don't seem to know an awful lot about this man you claim to 'support' do you? To be fair I've googled about this and I can't find a rape conviction. I can find a civil lawsuit with a sexual abuse determination but not a federal rape conviction. And I note quite a few women have threatened further sexual abuse charges so I'm not saying he's not a wrong un by any stretch... To be fair Jimmy Savile was never found guilty by a court of law but we all know what he was. Trump is a rapist.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 18:26:24 GMT
So why is he not in prison. Was he found guilty by trial and a jury. See here for details of the case www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carrollHe was found guilty of penetrating his victim with his fingers which, as the judge himself stated, is generally recognised as rape. However in New York, where the case was heard, the crime of "rape" is defined as penetration with a penis so could not be prosecuted in those terms. He has now been found guilty of defamation and ordered to pay Carroll 83m dollars BBC News - Donald Trump must pay $83.3m for defaming E Jean Carroll www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68109999. Of course his supporters won't believe their hero is a rapist and refuse to accept the conclusion of the jurors who based their decision on the available evidence. Were you not aware of this case or have you chosen to ignore it or just decided to take Trumps word that he isn't a rapist? Read it again. He has not been found guilty of rape. Which, I accept, makes a mockery of interstate laws in USA.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 18:28:14 GMT
So why is he not in prison. Was he found guilty by trial and a jury. Ignorance is bliss I accept what you are saying, BUT,cuz of stupid inconsistencies in state to state laws he is bizarrely not guilty. Otherwise he would be in prison.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 19:25:33 GMT
I accept what you are saying, BUT,cuz of stupid inconsistencies in state to state laws he is bizarrely not guilty. Otherwise he would be in prison. Does that make you feel any differently about him?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 19:53:07 GMT
I accept what you are saying, BUT,cuz of stupid inconsistencies in state to state laws he is bizarrely not guilty. Otherwise he would be in prison. Does that make you feel any differently about him? As an individual he is a twat, but as POTUS he is way ahead of the other option...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 20:01:26 GMT
Does that make you feel any differently about him? As an individual he is a twat, but as POTUS he is way ahead of the other option... But not really Messiah material though?
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jan 27, 2024 20:07:03 GMT
You opined that Biden was more scary Thats clearly a big fat lie Err no... It's my opinion. No opinion is a lie, simply by definition... So all opinions are true?
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 21:41:36 GMT
Err no... It's my opinion. No opinion is a lie, simply by definition... So all opinions are true? in the eyes of the owner yes.otherwise it would not be an opinion. You cannot lie with an opinion. A statement or an announcement can be a lie, but an opinion is err.. An opinion...in my opinion
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 27, 2024 21:42:31 GMT
As an individual he is a twat, but as POTUS he is way ahead of the other option... But not really Messiah material though? He's not The Messiah..Hes a naughty boy.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jan 27, 2024 21:48:24 GMT
But not really Messiah material though? He's not The Messiah..Hes a naughty boy. So that's a pretty big u-turn on your part, fair play mate. 🫡
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