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Post by roylandstoke on Jan 24, 2024 18:43:39 GMT
Americans should call him "The Kraut" and Brits should call him "Bloody Jerry".......his ancestors were run out of Land of Many Germs......name changed to Trump from Drumpf.......buggers can't even spell in English. The reported syphilis might finish him off soon. I’d just call him “the rapist”.
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Post by gawa on Jan 24, 2024 19:41:11 GMT
The democrats should have Bill run against them to allow the american people to choose between their favourite abuser.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 24, 2024 22:04:15 GMT
As you're putting me on the spot I'll go with riot. Like the BLM ones but without the fires and burning buildings 😆 This is a Riot This is an Insurrection But as another poster has pointed out nobody is being convicted of insurrection.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 0:22:26 GMT
This is a Riot This is an Insurrection But as another poster has pointed out nobody is being convicted of insurrection. And that poster would be correct there is a subtle difference in being charged with Insurrection and Seditious Conspiracy. The former carries a sentence of up to 10 years the latter 20. The difference is the former is actually carrying out the act of violence the latter plotting with others to orchestrate the violence There have been more than 1200 convictions so far on various charges resulting from January 6th The FBI are still identifying some of the perpetrators and rewards of up to $500,000 are being offered for some individuals still at large There have been more than a dozen Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who have been convicted of the greater charge of Seditious Conspiracy and have received sentences of between 10 and 22 years On the 4 indictments and 91 Felony charges Trump is facing 4 relate to January 6 and his 6 co-conspiritors on the charge sheet and carry sentences of up to 10 years.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 7:26:26 GMT
But as another poster has pointed out nobody is being convicted of insurrection. And that poster would be correct there is a subtle difference in being charged with Insurrection and Seditious Conspiracy. The former carries a sentence of up to 10 years the latter 20. The difference is the former is actually carrying out the act of violence the latter plotting with others to orchestrate the violence There have been more than 1200 convictions so far on various charges resulting from January 6th The FBI are still identifying some of the perpetrators and rewards of up to $500,000 are being offered for some individuals still at large There have been more than a dozen Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who have been convicted of the greater charge of Seditious Conspiracy and have received sentences of between 10 and 22 years On the 4 indictments and 91 Felony charges Trump is facing 4 relate to January 6 and his 6 co-conspiritors on the charge sheet and carry sentences of up to 10 years. Seems odd that people who took part are doing 10-20 years inside but the bloke who organised it is running for president 🤔
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 7:55:41 GMT
And that poster would be correct there is a subtle difference in being charged with Insurrection and Seditious Conspiracy. The former carries a sentence of up to 10 years the latter 20. The difference is the former is actually carrying out the act of violence the latter plotting with others to orchestrate the violence There have been more than 1200 convictions so far on various charges resulting from January 6th The FBI are still identifying some of the perpetrators and rewards of up to $500,000 are being offered for some individuals still at large There have been more than a dozen Proud Boys and Oath Keepers who have been convicted of the greater charge of Seditious Conspiracy and have received sentences of between 10 and 22 years On the 4 indictments and 91 Felony charges Trump is facing 4 relate to January 6 and his 6 co-conspiritors on the charge sheet and carry sentences of up to 10 years. Seems odd that people who took part are doing 10-20 years inside but the bloke who organised it is running for president 🤔 More confusing getting 20 years prison time for getting caught up in a riot when paedos get a lot less for horrific crimes against kids.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 7:59:42 GMT
Seems odd that people who took part are doing 10-20 years inside but the bloke who organised it is running for president 🤔 More confusing getting 20 years prison time for getting caught up in a riot when paedos get a lot less for horrific crimes against kids. I agree the sentences are comparitively very harsh, it's still odd that Trump is walking free in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Jan 25, 2024 9:16:17 GMT
More confusing getting 20 years prison time for getting caught up in a riot when paedos get a lot less for horrific crimes against kids. I agree the sentences are comparitively very harsh, it's still odd that Trump is walking free in the grand scheme of things. Organised and Instigated are 2 different things. Yes, one could argue that he instigated it, but it was seemingly un organised and something of a free for all...
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 9:28:17 GMT
I agree the sentences are comparitively very harsh, it's still odd that Trump is walking free in the grand scheme of things. Organised and Instigated are 2 different things. Yes, one could argue that he instigated it, but it was seemingly un organised and something of a free for all... Agreed, they are. The fact remains it wouldn't have happened without him.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 9:35:41 GMT
Organised and Instigated are 2 different things. Yes, one could argue that he instigated it, but it was seemingly un organised and something of a free for all... Agreed, they are. The fact remains it wouldn't have happened without him. The whole thing is totally disproportionate. Paedo rapist gets 10 years, gullible fool ramped up by Trumpies rhetoric who turns out for a major protest gets 20 years. No wonder people have little faith in the justice system over there. Yet at the same time we have Democrats funding bail for the blm rioters who were setting light to govt buildings. Not a fan of such obvious hypocrisy.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 9:46:35 GMT
Agreed, they are. The fact remains it wouldn't have happened without him. The whole thing is totally disproportionate. Paedo rapist gets 10 years, gullible fool ramped up by Trumpies rhetoric who turns out for a major protest gets 20 years. No wonder people have little faith in the justice system over there. Yet at the same time we have Democrats funding bail for the blm rioters who were setting light to govt buildings. Not a fan of such obvious hypocrisy. Again, agreed. There's also people still in jail over cannabis offences, which is also ludicrous. None of this means Trump should be walking free though.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 9:47:52 GMT
I agree the sentences are comparitively very harsh, it's still odd that Trump is walking free in the grand scheme of things. Organised and Instigated are 2 different things. Yes, one could argue that he instigated it, but it was seemingly un organised and something of a free for all... It has yet to be determined by the Courts what role Trump played in January 6 It would be incorrect to say it was unorganised as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers that have been sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy is the very definition of organising a rebellion Sedition = conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch Conspiricy = a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. Trump is facing 3 criminal conspiracy charges and 1 criminal corruption charge arising out of January6, essentially attempting with others to unlawfully overturn the Election. The most serious of these charges carries 10 years in prison Of course he is facing a further 87 Felony Charges in various other jurisdictions to keep him and his teams of Lawyers busy.
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Post by Robo10 on Jan 25, 2024 9:49:25 GMT
Agreed, they are. The fact remains it wouldn't have happened without him. The whole thing is totally disproportionate. Paedo rapist gets 10 years, gullible fool ramped up by Trumpies rhetoric who turns out for a major protest gets 20 years. No wonder people have little faith in the justice system over there. Yet at the same time we have Democrats funding bail for the blm rioters who were setting light to govt buildings. Not a fan of such obvious hypocrisy. Its OK - in the UK you can get 20+ years for watching Bolton v Wycombe on a Firestick, but less than 10 years for a brutal murder!
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 9:55:18 GMT
Organised and Instigated are 2 different things. Yes, one could argue that he instigated it, but it was seemingly un organised and something of a free for all... It has yet to be determined by the Courts what role Trump played in January 6 It would be incorrect to say it was unorganised as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers that have been sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy is the very definition of organising a rebellion Sedition = conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch Conspiricy = a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. Trump is facing 3 criminal conspiracy charges and 1 criminal corruption charge arising out of January6, essentially attempting with others to unlawfully overturn the Election. The most serious of these charges carries 10 years in prison Of course he is facing a further 87 Felony Charges in various other jurisdictions to keep him and his teams of Lawyers busy. And Trump won't spend a single day in prison. Multi tiered justice system. And average citizens (deluded and gullible maybe) being handed 10 plus year sentences whilst paedo rapists get less. Fucked up when you also have Democrats funding bail for blm rioters setting light to govt buildings. There's some rank hypocrisy going on here no matter which way you chop it up.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 25, 2024 10:13:47 GMT
Seems odd that people who took part are doing 10-20 years inside but the bloke who organised it is running for president 🤔 More confusing getting 20 years prison time for getting caught up in a riot when paedos get a lot less for horrific crimes against kids. They didn't get 20 years for getting caught up in a riot. They got 20 years for conspiring to cause a violent disturbance expressly designed to prevent the transfer of power to to the newly elected head of state - which is an act of sedition. Not all riots are the same. The whole point of the Capitol riots was that it was seditious in intent. All states have harsh penalties for sedition because sedition is about overthrowing the state. Bringing in sentencing policy for paedophilia is completely irrelevant. You are still refusing to recognise that some riots, like the one on Capitol Hill are fundamentally different to others, like the BLM roots. The former is seditious, the latter isn't. The severity of the riot is irrelevant - it is the purpose and intent that defines the crime.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 10:21:27 GMT
More confusing getting 20 years prison time for getting caught up in a riot when paedos get a lot less for horrific crimes against kids. They didn't get 20 years for getting caught up in a riot. They got 20 years for conspiring to cause a violent disturbance expressly designed to prevent the transfer of power to to the newly elected head of state - which is an act of sedition. Not all riots are the same. The whole point of the Capitol riots was that it was seditious in intent. All states have harsh penalties for sedition because sedition is about overthrowing the state. Bringing in sentencing policy for paedophilia is completely irrelevant. You are still refusing to recognise that some riots, like the one on Capitol Hill are fundamentally different to others, like the BLM roots. The former is seditious, the latter isn't. The severity of the riot is irrelevant - it is the purpose and intent that defines the crime. There are a lot of people getting ridiculous sentences for getting caught up in a riot. And if you happened to know a few of them you would think very differently regardless of the fact you are desperate for the orange fool to get locked up.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 25, 2024 10:35:50 GMT
They didn't get 20 years for getting caught up in a riot. They got 20 years for conspiring to cause a violent disturbance expressly designed to prevent the transfer of power to to the newly elected head of state - which is an act of sedition. Not all riots are the same. The whole point of the Capitol riots was that it was seditious in intent. All states have harsh penalties for sedition because sedition is about overthrowing the state. Bringing in sentencing policy for paedophilia is completely irrelevant. You are still refusing to recognise that some riots, like the one on Capitol Hill are fundamentally different to others, like the BLM roots. The former is seditious, the latter isn't. The severity of the riot is irrelevant - it is the purpose and intent that defines the crime. There are a lot of people getting ridiculous sentences for getting caught up in a riot. And if you happened to know a few of them you would think very differently regardless of the fact you are desperate for the orange fool to get locked up. The people who got caught up in the violence on Capitol Hill would not have been charged with seditious conspiracy. They would have been charged with a some form of public order offence or something appropriate to the nature of the actual offence - no different to a BLM rioter. It was the people responsible for organising and orchestrating what happened who were charged with seditious conspiracy and if there is evidence that Trump played a part in conspiring in those events he will be charged accordingly. I've attended protests that have turned violent and when that's happened I've walked away. If anyone attends a protest and gets sucked into violence they deserve all they get - and I'd hold myself and anyone I knew culpable. It's not me over playing what happened it's you underplaying what happened. Your claim it was just a riot is legally and factually incorrect.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 25, 2024 10:46:11 GMT
Just been musing about this while out walking.
If the speaker that incited the riots/insurrection that day wasn't Donald Trump but instead was a black fella called Malcolm something (for instance) and the rioters weren't predominantly gammons but were blm.
Does anybody realistically think that Malcolm would still be free to roam the country at all, let alone do it whilst running for president of the USA.
I don't.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 10:56:51 GMT
It has yet to be determined by the Courts what role Trump played in January 6 It would be incorrect to say it was unorganised as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers that have been sentenced for Seditious Conspiracy is the very definition of organising a rebellion Sedition = conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch Conspiricy = a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful. Trump is facing 3 criminal conspiracy charges and 1 criminal corruption charge arising out of January6, essentially attempting with others to unlawfully overturn the Election. The most serious of these charges carries 10 years in prison Of course he is facing a further 87 Felony Charges in various other jurisdictions to keep him and his teams of Lawyers busy. And Trump won't spend a single day in prison. Multi tiered justice system. And average citizens (deluded and gullible maybe) being handed 10 plus year sentences whilst paedo rapists get less. Fucked up when you also have Democrats funding bail for blm rioters setting light to govt buildings. There's some rank hypocrisy going on here no matter which way you chop it up. Whether Trump spends any time in prison has yet to be decided, he will have his day(s) in Court The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have had their day and Court and we know the outcome Whataboutery regarding sentencing of Paedophiles is difficult to comment on without knowing specific cases you're talking about, but I agree it is a heinous crime and should be punished accordingly. Many would say attempting to illegally overthrow the Democratic Process is also heinous, I'd agree. You rage against a Multi tiered system yet you also, I'm assuming from your post, condemn the Minnesota Freedom Fund MFF. Minnesota operates a Bail System which is Cash Only. This obviously disadvantages poorer people many who languish in prison pending Trial. MFF was established long before George Floyd was murdered to assist those without means, i would have thought you would be supportive as it attempts to address the imbalance (Multi tiered) in the system. MFF did receive a rash of Funding after that event. 13 of about 2000 Biden Campaign Staff contributed to MFF and Kamila Harris Tweeted her support. Trump also made some false claims about MFF along similar lines.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jan 25, 2024 10:58:47 GMT
They didn't get 20 years for getting caught up in a riot. They got 20 years for conspiring to cause a violent disturbance expressly designed to prevent the transfer of power to to the newly elected head of state - which is an act of sedition. Not all riots are the same. The whole point of the Capitol riots was that it was seditious in intent. All states have harsh penalties for sedition because sedition is about overthrowing the state. Bringing in sentencing policy for paedophilia is completely irrelevant. You are still refusing to recognise that some riots, like the one on Capitol Hill are fundamentally different to others, like the BLM roots. The former is seditious, the latter isn't. The severity of the riot is irrelevant - it is the purpose and intent that defines the crime. There are a lot of people getting ridiculous sentences for getting caught up in a riot. And if you happened to know a few of them you would think very differently regardless of the fact you are desperate for the orange fool to get locked up. Three days ago, you said that you've not paid much attention to the Jan 6th Insurrection, and now you know people who were involved. That escalated quickly! People say this but what did he actually negotiate successfully? IMO look more at what politicians do when they have power instead of how they brand themselves. The way he tried to overthrow democracy and has made it obvious he plans to do the same doesn't look like someone who'll negotiate. Looks more like a dictator in waiting. I've not paid much attention to this over throw of the govt and the Jan 6th Insurrection. But I have to admit one thing just doesn't add up to me. Considering a hell of a lot of people are armed to the teeth in the USA and if the media is to be believed there is a big prevalence of Trump followers being into their assault weapons. Then how come they all turned up to Capitol Hill unarmed. I mean if you're going to take the govt out you'd think a lot of em would have turned up dressed like John Rambo with their big guns.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 14:27:31 GMT
There are a lot of people getting ridiculous sentences for getting caught up in a riot. And if you happened to know a few of them you would think very differently regardless of the fact you are desperate for the orange fool to get locked up. Three days ago, you said that you've not paid much attention to the Jan 6th Insurrection, and now you know people who were involved. That escalated quickly! I've not paid much attention to this over throw of the govt and the Jan 6th Insurrection. But I have to admit one thing just doesn't add up to me. Considering a hell of a lot of people are armed to the teeth in the USA and if the media is to be believed there is a big prevalence of Trump followers being into their assault weapons. Then how come they all turned up to Capitol Hill unarmed. I mean if you're going to take the govt out you'd think a lot of em would have turned up dressed like John Rambo with their big guns. Because I've started reading about it. Isn't that what one does to educate themselves.....
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 14:32:31 GMT
And Trump won't spend a single day in prison. Multi tiered justice system. And average citizens (deluded and gullible maybe) being handed 10 plus year sentences whilst paedo rapists get less. Fucked up when you also have Democrats funding bail for blm rioters setting light to govt buildings. There's some rank hypocrisy going on here no matter which way you chop it up. Whether Trump spends any time in prison has yet to be decided, he will have his day(s) in Court The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have had their day and Court and we know the outcome Whataboutery regarding sentencing of Paedophiles is difficult to comment on without knowing specific cases you're talking about, but I agree it is a heinous crime and should be punished accordingly. Many would say attempting to illegally overthrow the Democratic Process is also heinous, I'd agree. You rage against a Multi tiered system yet you also, I'm assuming from your post, condemn the Minnesota Freedom Fund MFF. Minnesota operates a Bail System which is Cash Only. This obviously disadvantages poorer people many who languish in prison pending Trial. MFF was established long before George Floyd was murdered to assist those without means, i would have thought you would be supportive as it attempts to address the imbalance (Multi tiered) in the system. MFF did receive a rash of Funding after that event. 13 of about 2000 Biden Campaign Staff contributed to MFF and Kamila Harris Tweeted her support. Trump also made some false claims about MFF along similar lines. I was referring to those funds being used to bail wanton criminals who used the George Floyd murder to simply steal and destroy property. It happened.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 15:29:25 GMT
Whether Trump spends any time in prison has yet to be decided, he will have his day(s) in Court The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers have had their day and Court and we know the outcome Whataboutery regarding sentencing of Paedophiles is difficult to comment on without knowing specific cases you're talking about, but I agree it is a heinous crime and should be punished accordingly. Many would say attempting to illegally overthrow the Democratic Process is also heinous, I'd agree. You rage against a Multi tiered system yet you also, I'm assuming from your post, condemn the Minnesota Freedom Fund MFF. Minnesota operates a Bail System which is Cash Only. This obviously disadvantages poorer people many who languish in prison pending Trial. MFF was established long before George Floyd was murdered to assist those without means, i would have thought you would be supportive as it attempts to address the imbalance (Multi tiered) in the system. MFF did receive a rash of Funding after that event. 13 of about 2000 Biden Campaign Staff contributed to MFF and Kamila Harris Tweeted her support. Trump also made some false claims about MFF along similar lines. I was referring to those funds being used to bail wanton criminals who used the George Floyd murder to simply steal and destroy property. It happened. There is no evidence that funds were used to Bail the people you refer too to commit crimes you suggest. I accept that this was a false claim made by Trump There have been instances where MFF have used funds to bail criminals who have gone in to commit serious crimes, but they had nothing to do with George Floyd or Protesters. Unless you have evidence? Ironically some of the biggest protests took place when Floyd's murderer Derek Chauvin was released on a $1M Bond, it is not clear how Chauvin managed to raise the Bond as most of his assets had been frozen by IRS pending his appearance in Court on charges of Tax Evasion of up to $0.5M. He subsequently pleaded guilty to these charges and received a sentence of 13 months, not that it matters much. Chauvin's 3 Co-defendants were each able to post $750,000 Bonds. Maybe Police Officers are very well paid in Minnesota.... or they received help.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jan 25, 2024 15:57:20 GMT
I was referring to those funds being used to bail wanton criminals who used the George Floyd murder to simply steal and destroy property. It happened. There is no evidence that funds were used to Bail the people you refer too to commit crimes you suggest. I accept that this was a false claim made by Trump There have been instances where MFF have used funds to bail criminals who have gone in to commit serious crimes, but they had nothing to do with George Floyd or Protesters. Unless you have evidence? Ironically some of the biggest protests took place when Floyd's murderer Derek Chauvin was released on a $1M Bond, it is not clear how Chauvin managed to raise the Bond as most of his assets had been frozen by IRS pending his appearance in Court on charges of Tax Evasion of up to $0.5M. He subsequently pleaded guilty to these charges and received a sentence of 13 months, not that it matters much. Chauvin's 3 Co-defendants were each able to post $750,000 Bonds. Maybe Police Officers are very well paid in Minnesota.... or they received help. Rich republican friends with agendas no doubt. Its just an area I'd not paid much attention to so am catching up a bit trying to make some form of opinion as to what is really going on. I'm smelling shenanigans all over the shop from either side of the debate so far. But I'll agree one thing Trump is bad news for America and another term could be a disaster. Although I'm not enamoured with Mr Biden either. 2 old codgers fighting it out for the biggest gig in world politics. Deary me.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jan 25, 2024 16:57:23 GMT
I’m not sure if people get off on better healthcare to be honest. At least, I’ve not seen that. I’m very grateful for the insurance plan that I have. My mate married rich and I was invited to a day at the country club. It made me think it's a status thing. A lot of the people (seemingly all from rich families) are proud of what they've got from all their hard work. But there was only a little boasting about getting a new car or whatever. Most of the show off chat was about how good their healthcare, or lawyer, or accountant, or investment manager was. It felt kinda eye opening. Lots of normal workers can stretch to a BMW with an 84-month loan, so maybe posh cars aren't enough of a flex any more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 18:00:23 GMT
I’m not sure if people get off on better healthcare to be honest. At least, I’ve not seen that. I’m very grateful for the insurance plan that I have. My mate married rich and I was invited to a day at the country club. It made me think it's a status thing. A lot of the people (seemingly all from rich families) are proud of what they've got from all their hard work. But there was only a little boasting about getting a new car or whatever. Most of the show off chat was about how good their healthcare, or lawyer, or accountant, or investment manager was. It felt kinda eye opening. Lots of normal workers can stretch to a BMW with an 84-month loan, so maybe posh cars aren't enough of a flex any more. I see what you mean. I think that it’s an interesting one as salary and healthcare are not perfectly correlated. My wife takes in over 3x my salary (the asshole) but her health benefits are way worse than mine. I’m faculty in a public institution and she’s a hospitalist at a community hospital. When we have a child, they are absolutely going on my insurance, not hers. I see flexing over healthcare as more of a point of relief than something like flexing over having a personal lawyer or a trust fund baby managing your funds. However, I’m sure that there are exceptions to the rule (that I’ve just made up 😂), or maybe I’m just naïve. Edit: on this actually. Starbucks offers their part time staff some great benefits. Our fertility doctor stated that she has had patients who were lawyers etc who picked up part time barista jobs there as they paid for IVF. A very nice touch from a mega corporation.
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 19:43:13 GMT
I’m not sure if people get off on better healthcare to be honest. At least, I’ve not seen that. I’m very grateful for the insurance plan that I have. My mate married rich and I was invited to a day at the country club. It made me think it's a status thing. A lot of the people (seemingly all from rich families) are proud of what they've got from all their hard work. But there was only a little boasting about getting a new car or whatever. Most of the show off chat was about how good their healthcare, or lawyer, or accountant, or investment manager was. It felt kinda eye opening. Lots of normal workers can stretch to a BMW with an 84-month loan, so maybe posh cars aren't enough of a flex any more. Its a status symbol to show you have "arrived" as it's exclusive and by invitation only Its an extention of sororities and fraternities from Universities Its for people that are only comfortable in the company of others PLUs or clones of themselves and just as importantly to the exclusion of people that are "different" Race or Religion is not usually an issue, but is in some but based on Socioeconomics Its tentacles reach out to business and school board intakes like an informal Freemasonry to keep the herd pure. The extention is Gated Communities with Private Security to reinforce the exclusion and sameness I can't think of anything more depressing
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Post by Mason_Stokie on Jan 25, 2024 19:52:49 GMT
My mate married rich and I was invited to a day at the country club. It made me think it's a status thing. A lot of the people (seemingly all from rich families) are proud of what they've got from all their hard work. But there was only a little boasting about getting a new car or whatever. Most of the show off chat was about how good their healthcare, or lawyer, or accountant, or investment manager was. It felt kinda eye opening. Lots of normal workers can stretch to a BMW with an 84-month loan, so maybe posh cars aren't enough of a flex any more. Its a status symbol to show you have "arrived" as it's exclusive and by invitation only Its an extention of sororities and fraternities from Universities Its for people that are only comfortable in the company of others PLUs or clones of themselves and just as importantly to the exclusion of people that are "different" Race or Religion is not usually an issue, but is in some but based on Socioeconomics Its tentacles reach out to business and school board intakes like an informal Freemasonry to keep the herd pure. The extention is Gated Communities with Private Security to reinforce the exclusion and sameness I can't think of anything more depressing Jeepers. Might have to give up my CC membership as none of this applies to me...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 25, 2024 20:03:31 GMT
Just been musing about this while out walking. If the speaker that incited the riots/insurrection that day wasn't Donald Trump but instead was a black fella called Malcolm something (for instance) and the rioters weren't predominantly gammons but were blm. Does anybody realistically think that Malcolm would still be free to roam the country at all, let alone do it whilst running for president of the USA. I don't. He probably have a hastily made sculpture of himself erected in the middle of a road though
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Post by wannabee on Jan 25, 2024 20:24:35 GMT
Its a status symbol to show you have "arrived" as it's exclusive and by invitation only Its an extention of sororities and fraternities from Universities Its for people that are only comfortable in the company of others PLUs or clones of themselves and just as importantly to the exclusion of people that are "different" Race or Religion is not usually an issue, but is in some but based on Socioeconomics Its tentacles reach out to business and school board intakes like an informal Freemasonry to keep the herd pure. The extention is Gated Communities with Private Security to reinforce the exclusion and sameness I can't think of anything more depressing Jeepers. Might have to give up my CC membership as none of this applies to me... I suppose it depends which Club you are joined and what you expect to get out of it. In Cincinnati for instance Kenwood has a joiner of $65K and $1K per month Hyde Park $55K while Lakewood Ranch is only $30K I wouldn't necessarily consider these Country Clubs in the traditional sense, more Golf Clubs with some social activities attached Anyway glad you are enjoying your Club
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