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Post by vokeswagen on Nov 9, 2022 12:15:47 GMT
And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning…Not fake news, just for the record. From your own quote, he said ".....is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning". He's not suggesting or recommending anybody do anything with disinfectant (or bleach), he's asking a question. So, IS fake news as the press misappropriated what was actually said. But, if you're happy repeating what the press made up just so it fits your beliefs, what's it to me? The above is not what the press made up. It’s a direct quote. A fact. It’s clearly a bizarre, not to mention hugely irresponsible, question to ask live on TV in the middle of a panic-filled time where millions were hanging on his every word in the (vain) hope he may provide leadership. It is perhaps the ultimate hypocrisy for Trump fanboys to complain about misleading news, since Trump is a narcissist and a pathological liar by any measure. But I do think this makes it doubly important for the press to be accurate in their reporting of him. To assume the moral high ground. He didn’t say bleach so that shouldn’t have been reported, I agree. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2022 12:19:58 GMT
He's not had a good night Ron DeSantis has had an outstanding night. Trump needs to gracefully stand aside and let Super Ron take over. It would be the first time he's ever done anything gracefully going to be conflict for the Republicans there |
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Post by lordb on Nov 9, 2022 12:21:57 GMT
Trump's bleach drinking advice was breathtaking Why do you keep posting this? because it was the most astonishing thing I've ever seen any world leader ever say how everyone didn't recognise that the man is absolutely insane from that moment is staggering |
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Post by vokeswagen on Nov 9, 2022 12:23:31 GMT
A narcissistic, racist, delusional, corrupt old man, who somehow came to occupy the highest office on earth, asked senior scientific advisors on television whether you could inject people with disinfectant, yes. Hard to imagine why you wouldn’t at least save that question for behind closed doors, but I guess cf. “delusional” and “narcissistic”….  So, irrespective of all of that, you’ve now, finally, come round to agreeing but he didn’t advise people to drink bleach but merely pondered the possibility, with medical people, about is there some way of getting disinfectant into people to kill off a bug? That’s a big step you’ve made, well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I think you’re confusing me with someone else mate. I just posted a quote which has obviously agitated and triggered you and tdc a great deal. Nowhere have I said he advised anyone anything. I apologise for any offence that an accurate quote may have caused you  |
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Post by elystokie on Nov 9, 2022 12:28:06 GMT
Ely has always struggled to put together any form of argument, let alone one of any coherence. 😉 Lol, well we don't all have unfettered access to our own network of national and international polling companies like you seem to, I presume that's how you know for certain you're not spouting utter bollocks when you claim to know what the world is thinking? |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 9, 2022 15:13:16 GMT
Ron DeSantis has had an outstanding night. Trump needs to gracefully stand aside and let Super Ron take over. It would be the first time he's ever done anything gracefully going to be conflict for the Republicans there He's already threatened to 'reveal things that won't be very flattering' about DeSantis if he runs - so 'gracefully stand aside' looks highly unlikely. It could be bluster - but if two opposing groups of gun slinging, Capitol rioting, planet trashing, anti-abortionist Rednecks start kicking lumps out of each other in the run up then it could be fun. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 9, 2022 16:01:46 GMT
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me." So it's settled then, he was asking a question to the medical professional sat next to him, wondering if there was any way they could try & find way to harness the powers that disinfectants had & make it useful. At no point did he tell people to go out there & buy a bottle of bleach & drink/inject themselves with it. Imagine if Biden said anything half as stupid!? Republicans would call him senile and past it etc. |
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Post by Foster on Nov 9, 2022 16:34:50 GMT
So it's settled then, he was asking a question to the medical professional sat next to him, wondering if there was any way they could try & find way to harness the powers that disinfectants had & make it useful. At no point did he tell people to go out there & buy a bottle of bleach & drink/inject themselves with it. Imagine if Biden said anything half as stupid!? Republicans would call him senile and past it etc. To be fair he is past it. I'm not sure that anyone past retirement age should be in the running. |
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Post by Foster on Nov 9, 2022 16:42:59 GMT
It would be the first time he's ever done anything gracefully going to be conflict for the Republicans there He's already threatened to 'reveal things that won't be very flattering' about DeSantis if he runs - so 'gracefully stand aside' looks highly unlikely. It could be bluster - but if two opposing groups of gun slinging, Capitol rioting, planet trashing, anti-abortionist Rednecks start kicking lumps out of each other in the run up then it could be fun. If Trump truly had the best interests of the Republicans at heart then he wouldn't make pathetic threats like this in the first place. If he does indeed know something damaging then wouldn't it be the morally right thing to do to disclose it in any case. He's basically said that DeSantis isn't who he claims to be but I'll let him keep governing unless if affects me personally. Fuck everyone else who voted for him. For him, I guess it's imperative to maintain a large supporter base and stay in the spotlight, so he can keep the prosecuters at bay. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 9, 2022 17:29:39 GMT
He's already threatened to 'reveal things that won't be very flattering' about DeSantis if he runs - so 'gracefully stand aside' looks highly unlikely. It could be bluster - but if two opposing groups of gun slinging, Capitol rioting, planet trashing, anti-abortionist Rednecks start kicking lumps out of each other in the run up then it could be fun. If Trump truly had the best interests of the Republicans at heart then he wouldn't make pathetic threats like this in the first place. If he does indeed know something damaging then wouldn't it be the morally right thing to do to disclose it in any case. He's basically said that DeSantis isn't who he claims to be but I'll let him keep governing unless if affects me personally. Fuck everyone else who voted for him. For him, I guess it's imperative to maintain a large supporter base and stay in the spotlight, so he can keep the prosecuters at bay. The parallels between our own version of poundland Trump and the real one continue. Has Trump become as toxic to the Republicans as Bozo was for the Tories? And, since they're both massive narcissists who are only bothered about themselves, does he care about the potential damage he could do to his party? Bozo didn't either, which is why he thought he could make a triumphant return until the parliamentary party told him to fuck off. I wouldn't be surprised, given Desantis success, if Tango reads the room like Bozo was forced to and abandons a presidential run. Some no doubt self aggrandising comment about how he could've won easily and made America great again if he'd wanted to but felt 'his' protege whom he'd created and shaped was now the man to carry on his mission! |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 9, 2022 18:06:04 GMT
If Trump truly had the best interests of the Republicans at heart then he wouldn't make pathetic threats like this in the first place. If he does indeed know something damaging then wouldn't it be the morally right thing to do to disclose it in any case. He's basically said that DeSantis isn't who he claims to be but I'll let him keep governing unless if affects me personally. Fuck everyone else who voted for him. For him, I guess it's imperative to maintain a large supporter base and stay in the spotlight, so he can keep the prosecuters at bay. The parallels between our own version of poundland Trump and the real one continue. Has Trump become as toxic to the Republicans as Bozo was for the Tories? And, since they're both massive narcissists who are only bothered about themselves, does he care about the potential damage he could do to his party? Bozo didn't either, which is why he thought he could make a triumphant return until the parliamentary party told him to fuck off. I wouldn't be surprised, given Desantis success, if Tango reads the room like Bozo was forced to and abandons a presidential run. Some no doubt self aggrandising comment about how he could've won easily and made America great again if he'd wanted to but felt 'his' protege whom he'd created and shaped was now the man to carry on his mission! Well I guess if Fox are starting to turn on him.... www.foxnews.com/media/trump-blasted-across-media-spectrum-over-republicans-midterms-performance-biggest-loser-tonight?intcmp=tw_fnc |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 18:41:32 GMT
And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning…Not fake news, just for the record. From your own quote, he said ".....is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning". He's not suggesting or recommending anybody do anything with disinfectant (or bleach), he's asking a question. So, IS fake news as the press misappropriated what was actually said. But, if you're happy repeating what the press made up just so it fits your beliefs, what's it to me? Look how uncomfortable this Doctor was listening to this Cretin Then see what she has to say a year later The former coronavirus response coordinator in the Trump White House, Dr. Deborah Birx, says she still thinks about the moment last year when she sat silently while former President Donald Trump raised the possibility of injecting disinfectant into people to treat COVID-19.
"Frankly, I didn't know how to handle that episode," Birx said Monday in an interview with ABC News' Terry Moran for ABC News Live's "The Breakdown." "I still think about it every day."
www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/birx-trumps-disinfectant-injection-moment-day/story%3fid=76474960 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 18:43:36 GMT
From your own quote, he said ".....is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning". He's not suggesting or recommending anybody do anything with disinfectant (or bleach), he's asking a question. So, IS fake news as the press misappropriated what was actually said. But, if you're happy repeating what the press made up just so it fits your beliefs, what's it to me? Look how uncomfortable this Doctor was listening to this Cretin Then see what she has to say a year later The former coronavirus response coordinator in the Trump White House, Dr. Deborah Birx, says she still thinks about the moment last year when she sat silently while former President Donald Trump raised the possibility of injecting disinfectant into people to treat COVID-19.
"Frankly, I didn't know how to handle that episode," Birx said Monday in an interview with ABC News' Terry Moran for ABC News Live's "The Breakdown." "I still think about it every day."
www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/birx-trumps-disinfectant-injection-moment-day/story%3fid=76474960The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 9, 2022 18:54:24 GMT
Look how uncomfortable this Doctor was listening to this Cretin Then see what she has to say a year later The former coronavirus response coordinator in the Trump White House, Dr. Deborah Birx, says she still thinks about the moment last year when she sat silently while former President Donald Trump raised the possibility of injecting disinfectant into people to treat COVID-19.
"Frankly, I didn't know how to handle that episode," Birx said Monday in an interview with ABC News' Terry Moran for ABC News Live's "The Breakdown." "I still think about it every day."
www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/birx-trumps-disinfectant-injection-moment-day/story%3fid=76474960The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said If you read what he said verbatim, which was provided higher up the thread, he makes even less sense than Biden, which is impressive in itself! It was just rambling nonsense! |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 19:01:49 GMT
The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said If you read what he said verbatim, which was provided higher up the thread, he makes even less sense than Biden, which is impressive in itself! It was just rambling nonsense! Yeh I know what he said Bluers |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Nov 9, 2022 19:06:29 GMT
The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said If you read what he said verbatim, which was provided higher up the thread, he makes even less sense than Biden, which is impressive in itself! It was just rambling nonsense! The best bit for me is the description of DeSantis by our right wing libertarian friends as "Trump with a brain". Thereby admitting that until now they've been fanboys of someone WITHOUT A BRAIN. Priceless. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 19:23:38 GMT
Look how uncomfortable this Doctor was listening to this Cretin Then see what she has to say a year later The former coronavirus response coordinator in the Trump White House, Dr. Deborah Birx, says she still thinks about the moment last year when she sat silently while former President Donald Trump raised the possibility of injecting disinfectant into people to treat COVID-19.
"Frankly, I didn't know how to handle that episode," Birx said Monday in an interview with ABC News' Terry Moran for ABC News Live's "The Breakdown." "I still think about it every day."
www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/birx-trumps-disinfectant-injection-moment-day/story%3fid=76474960The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said Really, you think the Musings of the President of the United States has no influence, particularly on his lunatic followers? It would be strange if that were the case Time Magazine would tend to disagree with you quoting figures from CDC January, February and March of 2020, accidental poisonings with household disinfectants were up 5%, 17% and 93% respectively over the same months in 2019. In April, which includes an eight day period from the 23rd of the month to the 30th, following Trump’s comments, the increase was 121% compared to April of 2019. In the first ten days of May, things settled down some, with poisonings up 69% over the same 10-day period in 2019.
For bleach, the numbers are less dramatic, but still telling. In January, February and March 2020 poisonings were up 7%, 1% and 59% respectively over each of the same months last year. In April they leapt 77%. As with disinfectants, May has similarly improved a bit, with the first ten-day period showing an increase of 51% over the same 10 days last year.time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/The original source for Trump's Quackery was from a discredited Church Leader Mark Grenon who had written to Trump 19 days before Trump made those ill adviced comments. Grenon had advised Trump of Bleach being a "Miracle Cure" www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirusGrenon continued his Quackery until the Feds caught up with him and charged him with Felony Fraud www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/09/fake-coronavirus-cure-bleach/ |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 19:38:11 GMT
The point is, no one encouraged people to drink or inject bleach into their bodies. He was though being a bit thick in what he said Really, you think the Musings of the President of the United States has no influence, particularly on his lunatic followers? It would be strange if that were the case Time Magazine would tend to disagree with you quoting figures from CDC January, February and March of 2020, accidental poisonings with household disinfectants were up 5%, 17% and 93% respectively over the same months in 2019. In April, which includes an eight day period from the 23rd of the month to the 30th, following Trump’s comments, the increase was 121% compared to April of 2019. In the first ten days of May, things settled down some, with poisonings up 69% over the same 10-day period in 2019.
For bleach, the numbers are less dramatic, but still telling. In January, February and March 2020 poisonings were up 7%, 1% and 59% respectively over each of the same months last year. In April they leapt 77%. As with disinfectants, May has similarly improved a bit, with the first ten-day period showing an increase of 51% over the same 10 days last year.time.com/5835244/accidental-poisonings-trump/The original source for Trump's Quackery was from a discredited Church Leader Mark Grenon who had written to Trump 19 days before Trump made those ill adviced comments. Grenon had advised Trump of Bleach being a "Miracle Cure" www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/revealed-leader-group-peddling-bleach-cure-lobbied-trump-coronavirusGrenon continued his Quackery until the Feds caught up with him and charged him with Felony Fraud www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/07/09/fake-coronavirus-cure-bleach/That’s their stupid fault |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 20:02:52 GMT
That’s their stupid fault They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 9, 2022 20:06:10 GMT
That’s their stupid fault They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid You are correct, it was very irresponsible of the MSM to push the 'fake news' narrative that The Don had told people to drink/inject bleach. They really should be held to account for their lies. |
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Post by yeswilko on Nov 9, 2022 20:10:05 GMT
They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid You are correct, it was very irresponsible of the MSM to push the 'fake news' narrative that The Don had told people to drink/inject bleach. They really should be held to account for their lies. A bit obsessed with this particular bit of Trump nonsense aren't ya?.. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 9, 2022 20:12:10 GMT
You are correct, it was very irresponsible of the MSM to push the 'fake news' narrative that The Don had told people to drink/inject bleach. They really should be held to account for their lies. A bit obsessed with this particular bit of Trump nonsense aren't ya?.. Not really, I just find it amusing how many people, still to this day, push the lie that he said something he didn't. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 20:14:23 GMT
That’s their stupid fault They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid What a world ay, where everybody seems to be brainwashed by the media. It was a daft question to ask on telly and the “expert” is milking it to extend the longevity of her “fame” as most do these days. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 20:16:03 GMT
They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid You are correct, it was very irresponsible of the MSM to push the 'fake news' narrative that The Don had told people to drink/inject bleach. They really should be held to account for their lies. I doubt most of those 6 fingered idiots have the ability or attention span to read a Newspaper Article. Much easier to listen to their Hero on Fox News and follow their interpretation of his instructions |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 20:43:45 GMT
They may well be stupid but that doesn't gel with your contention nobody encouraged them to be stupid What a world ay, where everybody seems to be brainwashed by the media. It was a daft question to ask on telly and the “expert” is milking it to extend the longevity of her “fame” as most do these days. The "expert" you refer to has a distinguished career as a Physician and Diplomat Twice decorated by the US Military and multi published in her field of Immunology, Vaccine Research and Global Health The fact it took her more than a year and after Trump had left office to grant an interview speaks to her integrity I'm sure she would have been handsomely rewarded if she had granted earlier interviews but she has no need to stoop to such Tawdry behaviour |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 20:53:06 GMT
What a world ay, where everybody seems to be brainwashed by the media. It was a daft question to ask on telly and the “expert” is milking it to extend the longevity of her “fame” as most do these days. The "expert" you refer to has a distinguished career as a Physician and Diplomat Twice decorated by the US Military and multi published in her field of Immunology, Vaccine Research and Global Health The fact it took her more than a year and after Trump had left office to grant an interview speaks to her integrity I'm sure she would have been handsomely rewarded if she had granted earlier interviews but she has no need to stoop to such Tawdry behaviour If you say so mate |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 9, 2022 21:24:21 GMT
What a world ay, where everybody seems to be brainwashed by the media. It was a daft question to ask on telly and the “expert” is milking it to extend the longevity of her “fame” as most do these days. The "expert" you refer to has a distinguished career as a Physician and Diplomat Twice decorated by the US Military and multi published in her field of Immunology, Vaccine Research and Global Health The fact it took her more than a year and after Trump had left office to grant an interview speaks to her integrity I'm sure she would have been handsomely rewarded if she had granted earlier interviews but she has no need to stoop to such Tawdry behaviour Oh but she's "milking it" really. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 9, 2022 21:27:14 GMT
If you read what he said verbatim, which was provided higher up the thread, he makes even less sense than Biden, which is impressive in itself! It was just rambling nonsense! The best bit for me is the description of DeSantis by our right wing libertarian friends as "Trump with a brain". Thereby admitting that until now they've been fanboys of someone WITHOUT A BRAIN. Priceless. Same as in this country...they'll endorse anyone who isn't someone from a party or side of politics they don't like. Ignore the fact that he or she might in fact be a dangerous idiot, and do untold damage, that's not what matters. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 9, 2022 21:36:01 GMT
The "expert" you refer to has a distinguished career as a Physician and Diplomat Twice decorated by the US Military and multi published in her field of Immunology, Vaccine Research and Global Health The fact it took her more than a year and after Trump had left office to grant an interview speaks to her integrity I'm sure she would have been handsomely rewarded if she had granted earlier interviews but she has no need to stoop to such Tawdry behaviour Oh but she's "milking it" really. She is isn’t she? Hasn’t she got more important stuff to do than speak to the worlds media about a throw away comment by a befuddled bloke with no idea about medicine? It’s all just “make me famous” claptrap. It was an idiotic thing to say by Trump and now she’s revelling in the notoriety of being “that woman who was sat there”. |
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Post by wannabee on Nov 9, 2022 21:55:40 GMT
The "expert" you refer to has a distinguished career as a Physician and Diplomat Twice decorated by the US Military and multi published in her field of Immunology, Vaccine Research and Global Health The fact it took her more than a year and after Trump had left office to grant an interview speaks to her integrity I'm sure she would have been handsomely rewarded if she had granted earlier interviews but she has no need to stoop to such Tawdry behaviour If you say so mate I don't say so, mate Her record literally speaks for itself. Good Luck in trying to dispute that, you wouldn't even try. |
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