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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 12, 2022 17:03:42 GMT
Didn't Trump say something along the lines of " I could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still vote for me" , he's definitely not wrong. Trouble is politics have become nothing more than tribalism and your side "winning" . Red vs Blue , perceived good vs perceived bad and no one wants to give any ground to the opposite "side". Trump could be found guilty of murder and he wouldn't lose any votes, Biden could be found guilty of being a nonce and he wouldn't lose any votes because the people that are on "team" Joe or team Donald don't want to give the other "team" the satisfaction. Same over here with Labour and Torys. Personally I'm neither, I dislike the Torys but I also dislike Labour, but I'd happily vote Tory just to "stick it" to the Labour voters and I'm sure many would do the same in reverse. Identity politics is what's causing a lot of the division in society, too many people are too married to their ideas and can't think critically, you only have to look at certain posters on this board to see it plain as day Trouble is, when you vote tory you're "sticking it" to yourself and everyone who wants decent public services. Oh well , rather that than be woke |
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 12, 2022 18:47:11 GMT
Trouble is, when you vote tory you're "sticking it" to yourself and everyone who wants decent public services. Oh well , rather that than be woke You just want everyone to have a shit life because you're desperately unhappy with your own. Grow up. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 12, 2022 19:17:33 GMT
Oh well , rather that than be woke You just want everyone to have a shit life because you're desperately unhappy with your own. Grow up. Im more than happy with mine mate . I just think logic and normality is more important than your woke feelings. Grow up |
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 12, 2022 19:37:41 GMT
You just want everyone to have a shit life because you're desperately unhappy with your own. Grow up. Im more than happy with mine mate . I just think logic and normality is more important than your woke feelings. Grow up Logic, normality and Donald Trump aren't in the same universe sir. I'm not sure what's got you to this point but it's a shame. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 12, 2022 19:43:14 GMT
Im more than happy with mine mate . I just think logic and normality is more important than your woke feelings. Grow up Logic, normality and Donald Trump aren't in the same universe sir. I'm not sure what's got you to this point but it's a shame. You would say that though. |
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Post by andystokey on Aug 12, 2022 20:29:59 GMT
The redacted warrant makes interesting reading. That's a lot of Secret, Top Secret and SCI, (sensitive compartmented information)
Not to mention an interesting document about the President of France.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 12, 2022 20:55:21 GMT
If only the US justice department took the same action against Hillary
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 12, 2022 20:58:50 GMT
If only the US justice department took the same action against Hillary Give it time mate, they will , even with the notice she had allowing her to delete emails etc. Nothing will come of the Trump situation neither |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Aug 12, 2022 21:27:03 GMT
If only the US justice department took the same action against Hillary If only there was a politician that campaigned on a platform of locking her up. |
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Post by andystokey on Aug 12, 2022 21:47:33 GMT
If only the US justice department took the same action against Hillary If only there was a politician that campaigned on a platform of locking her up. Given his power over the judiciary in his term why didn't it happen? Perhaps because despite thousands of hours of investigation no one could create a case that might stand scrutiny? Or are we awaiting the QAnon second coming and they have the gallows ready at Guantanamo? |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 12, 2022 22:01:32 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 18, 2022 20:16:33 GMT
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 19, 2022 18:57:40 GMT
😂
It's funny 'cuz it's true
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2022 5:53:36 GMT
So the tango shit gibbon had over 300 classified documents stashed away then. Completely normal.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 23, 2022 6:30:32 GMT
So the tango shit gibbon had over 300 classified documents stashed away then. Completely normal. His argument is that they were declassified (admittedly by him). So it’s not whether he had 300 or 3,000 it’s what the documents are that matters. Which means, as far as I can see, that Trump ends up with a suitable conviction following a due public process. That is necessary to justify the action the FBI undertook. By the way, this extract from a BBC story this morning is interesting… We’ve seen redaction used by the SNP during the Alex Salmond trial as a way to avoid reasonable scrutiny, so this action does raise an eyebrow to me at least. Much better for full (or fuller) declaration than obfuscation. |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2022 8:48:36 GMT
I wouldn’t put it past the idiot
Did Clinton do something similar with her personal e mail/server or were those docs not classified?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 23, 2022 9:12:29 GMT
I wouldn’t put it past the idiot Did Clinton do something similar with her personal e mail/server or were those docs not classified? Yes, she did, hence the "Lock her up, lock her up" chants at rallies attended by Trump goons. Not quite so keen on that chant now, you'd suspect, although they probably wouldn't get the comparison! There are key differences between Trump's actions and those of Clinton, as you might expect. This explains it quite well: www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/comparing-hillary-clintons-emails-and-donald-trumps-boxes-of-files/ |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2022 9:44:29 GMT
I wouldn’t put it past the idiot Did Clinton do something similar with her personal e mail/server or were those docs not classified? Yes, she did, hence the "Lock her up, lock her up" chants at rallies attended by Trump goons. Not quite so keen on that chant now, you'd suspect, although they probably wouldn't get the comparison! There are key differences between Trump's actions and those of Clinton, as you might expect. This explains it quite well: www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/comparing-hillary-clintons-emails-and-donald-trumps-boxes-of-files/Thanks for taking time to share that it was informative So she did have classified documents on a personal server but she seemed to get away with it because it was deemed “careless”. I thought other posters on here stated that quantity and excuse for possession outside of mandated state servers was an offence. I’m not trying to defend Trump as he’s a buffoon and an idiot but there does appear to be a political bias to the action against him, just as Trump had with those stupid “lock up” populist nonsense. |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 23, 2022 9:48:32 GMT
Thanks for taking time to share that it was informative So she did have classified documents on a personal server but she seemed to get away with it because it was deemed “careless”. I thought other posters on here stated that quantity and excuse for possession outside of mandated state servers was an offence. I’m not trying to defend Trump as he’s a buffoon and an idiot but there does appear to be a political bias to the action against him, just as Trump had with those stupid “lock up” populist nonsense. She deleted them as well , obviously had nothing to hide |
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Aug 23, 2022 9:58:17 GMT
Thanks for taking time to share that it was informative So she did have classified documents on a personal server but she seemed to get away with it because it was deemed “careless”. I thought other posters on here stated that quantity and excuse for possession outside of mandated state servers was an offence. I’m not trying to defend Trump as he’s a buffoon and an idiot but there does appear to be a political bias to the action against him, just as Trump had with those stupid “lock up” populist nonsense. She deleted them as well , obviously had nothing to hide They’re both as bad as each other. More chance of us winning the league than finding an honest politician |
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 23, 2022 10:00:29 GMT
She deleted them as well , obviously had nothing to hide They’re both as bad as each other. More chance of us winning the league than finding an honest politician I'm a Trump fan mate but I agree about the rest |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 23, 2022 14:53:38 GMT
Thanks for taking time to share that it was informative So she did have classified documents on a personal server but she seemed to get away with it because it was deemed “careless”. I thought other posters on here stated that quantity and excuse for possession outside of mandated state servers was an offence. I’m not trying to defend Trump as he’s a buffoon and an idiot but there does appear to be a political bias to the action against him, just as Trump had with those stupid “lock up” populist nonsense. You're welcome. As the article suggests, there is a key difference between the two cases. Neither of them come out smelling of roses, but Trump smells more of horse manure! Whether any charges result, who knows? I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 15:42:07 GMT
The orange dickhead is fucked isn't he? 300 classified documents at home? Can't see how he gets out of this, especially as he's defending himself, as no one will take him on as a client.
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Post by desman2 on Aug 23, 2022 15:43:50 GMT
The orange dickhead is fucked isn't he? 300 classified documents at home? Can't see how he gets out of this, especially as he's defending himself, as no one will take him on as a client. He's loaded with lawyers. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2022 15:55:20 GMT
The orange dickhead is fucked isn't he? 300 classified documents at home? Can't see how he gets out of this, especially as he's defending himself, as no one will take him on as a client. He's loaded with lawyers. I will stand corrected if the attached image proves to be false. 'represented by Donald J. Trump' : Pro Se legaldictionary.net/pro-se/Attachments:
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Post by wannabee on Aug 23, 2022 18:33:39 GMT
He's loaded with lawyers. I will stand corrected if the attached image proves to be false. 'represented by Donald J. Trump' : Pro Se legaldictionary.net/pro-se/I'm pretty sure Regina doesn't appear in UK Criminal Courts when she prosecutes Bad Boys and Girls Be assured Trump has an "eloquence " of Lawyers to represent him |
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Post by yeswilko on Aug 23, 2022 18:49:41 GMT
They’re both as bad as each other. More chance of us winning the league than finding an honest politician I'm a Trump fan mate but I agree about the rest A bloke in Audlem who can't get into a relationship becomes besotted with an American billionaire rapist.... the internet 2022 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 23, 2022 19:13:03 GMT
I'm a Trump fan mate but I agree about the rest A bloke in Audlem who can't get into a relationship becomes besotted with an American billionaire rapist.... the internet 2022 Bit of a weird rant that is mate. “Can’t get into a relationship” and “besotted with an American billionaire rapist”. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 23, 2022 19:25:01 GMT
It's all about Ron DeSantis. The man to defeat bozo Biden and lead the West into the war on woke. A total class act who the Liberal left are terrified of. As described by many, he's "Trump with a brain". Given we know the media and wokies struggled to handle Trump, I'd say its exciting times ahead 😊
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Post by Hereward the Wake ᛊᛏᛟᚲᛖ on Aug 23, 2022 19:30:11 GMT
A bloke in Audlem who can't get into a relationship becomes besotted with an American billionaire rapist.... the internet 2022 Bit of a weird rant that is mate. “Can’t get into a relationship” and “besotted with an American billionaire rapist”. He's tapped in the head mate , needs sectioning. |
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