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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 20:22:42 GMT
Hearing woke melts in meltdown mode responding to the emphatic, crushing Trump victory has been a thing of absolute beauty.
They just had some American lady on CNN UK (Sky News) who lives in the UK "ohhh myyy gawwd I will never return to my country now. He's a racist, evil man blah blah blah".
Utterly pathetic.
Also what on earth was Crazy Kamala going on about in her losing speech?! Sums up her disastrous campaign.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 20:29:03 GMT
Meanwhile in the UK, an autistic 17 year old girl asking a bloke she was playing football against "are you a man?" has been banned from playing football for discrimination by our beloved FA.
And people wonder why the world is quite rightly turning on woke horseshit.
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 7, 2024 20:33:39 GMT
Are you speaking for Republican voters again now? Or do you not speak for them? You U turn so quickly it is difficult to follow! U-turn?  I think me stating that republican voters have in the main voted for republican policies is a given Oggy. It's not me speaking on behalf of them, it's just logic and common sense 101. I'm not sure what you personally find so difficult to grasp about that to be honest, but then again you did basically call them all rape apologists (including a few posters on here), so it doesn't surprise me that you don't seem to get it. Do yourself a favour and stop acting like a cry baby. Trump won, get over it. I didn’t call anyone a rape apologist. A vote for Trump is a vote for a felon and a sex offender. I am sure that’s not the reason most people voted for him, but who knows. I am sure many voted for his policies (he must have some real ones!) and many others voted for him because they dislike Harris/Biden/extreme left communists or whatever they apparently are (which is what many were saying earlier today on here). Some will have voted for him because they always vote Republican. It is only you, who despite you admitting you don’t speak for the American people, who apparently knows why the American people voted for him it seems! And it was just his policies. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 20:34:58 GMT
Meanwhile in the UK, an autistic 17 year old girl asking a bloke she was playing football against "are you a man?" has been banned from playing football for discrimination by our beloved FA. And people wonder why the world is quite rightly turning on woke horseshit. It really is no wonder the likes of Trump are winning elections. Big Nige is coming for Starmer as well in a year or two |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 20:41:19 GMT
Meanwhile in the UK, an autistic 17 year old girl asking a bloke she was playing football against "are you a man?" has been banned from playing football for discrimination by our beloved FA. And people wonder why the world is quite rightly turning on woke horseshit. It really is no wonder the likes of Trump are winning elections. Big Nige is coming for Starmer as well in a year or two Yeah it's all over for Starmer already. It's clear he's going to achieve absolutely nothing in the next few years, the country already hate him. Labour really are a nasty mob. But we knew that.. The inevitable war on woke is well and truly underway ☺️ |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 7, 2024 20:44:58 GMT
I fully understand and accept your argument but that doesn't by any means I think it is the right approach. I think there is a difference between being pragmatic and simply lowing our standards as each election passes simply through fear of keeping out a bogeyman. What your pragmatism delivers is managed decline and not actually any serious radical improvements. For me being pragmatic isn't about settling or staying still, it's about recognising the issues in todays society and pushing for changes to improve it. If we continually repeat this cycle of settling for the "lesser evil" on offer then we're simply accepting things as they are and not fighting for real change people want. I honestly don't think expecting a party and candidate to offer more than "not Trump" is being an idealist. If you never demand better then you'll only continue to get these poor options which serve the interests of oligarchs over constituents. Maybe some of us want to actually have a reason to vote for someone and a promise of an improvement to our lives rather than managed austerity. If that's not "realistic" to want better then what's the alternative - accept managed decline and the mindset that each generations lives are getting worse? Or where is the improvement coming from with your "lesser of two evils" pragmatic ideology. As socrates once wisely said, "I know that I know nothing". Those who think they “know best” often assume their political views are unassailable, and anyone questioning them is either uneducated or unrealistic. This arrogance can push others away, as the lack of humility stifles real dialogue. Instead of genuinely engaging with alternative viewpoints, such individuals can become condescending, which ultimately limits both their influence and their personal growth. So yes my "idealist" approach in your mind may mean I'm doomed to disappointment but at least there is still a glimmer of hope there. With the "lesser of two evils" approach the only guarantee is evil and by evidence of the last 20 years managed decline too. How that also doesn't lead to being doomed with disappointment I don't know, but I know there certainly isn't any hope aside from the hope of keeping out a bogeyman people are conditioned to fear on either side.* * Actually with respect and to be fair it feels some Trump supporters do have hope and they voted for someone who resonated with them more so than democrat voters who were mostly motivated to vote against Trump. And who knows maybe he will deliver for those people. If you consider yourself on the left though all you have to do is look at Atlee, Foot, Smith, Blair, Milliband, Starmer to recognise the trajectory things have and are heading. If the frog is in the boiling water long enough they eventually become desensitised to the increase in temperature and the damage what it is doing to them. Maybe because you're older than me you've became desensitised to the managed decline in quality of candidate, integrity and policy of labour leaders over the last number of decades. But if you consider yourself left wing and see this as the pragmatic approach... what is the end game? Frogs for lunch? There is no evidence that Socrates ever said "I know that I know nothing" but it is attributed to him by Plato in his Dialogues. Nevertheless my interpretation of the phrase is an acknowledgement that everything we believe is simply an opinion based on our subjective perception of life. You are doing exactly what you accuse others of by "othering" any ideas that are contrary to yours because you "know best". This is the exact opposite of the meaning of the phrase which encourages an open mind because "we don't know what we don't know" In any case that philosophical but to the practical In any Election there are choices, you may not like the choices, but those are the choices. If it bothers you so much become an activist rather than complaining of how things are. Of course the system is rigged because money and power give people influence to rig the system as it has since time immemorial "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference". - Reinhold Niebuhr Pragmatism doesn't mean a lowering of standards, far from it. A few hundred years ago you and I would likely be serfs on some landlords land with a load of kids half dying before the age of 5. 250 years ago the Industrial Revolution brought great wealth to a few not the many, appalling living conditions and heralded the demise of the Planet we see today. In barely 100 years Women can vote, Workers can organize in Unions, life expectancy has increased hugely through social change and Medical advancement and many others. Societies evolve maybe too slowly for your liking but if the pace of the next 100 years is like the last and most likely accelerated it will be unrecognizable to today. Communication like most technology is both a gift and a source of tension. When the serfs went about their daily lives they had no idea what was happening in the next village never mind another Continent if they were even aware of such places. Now areas of the World see instantly on their TVs or Mobile Phones the difference in affluence and want a share. Technology as I say is a double edged sword. The two most likely advancements in the next 20/30 years will like be Green Technology and AI. Both will bring great Wealth to those that control it but will benefit the ordinary person by raising their quality and standard of life. It will almost certainly increase inequality of Wealth but the General Standard will be higher, is this enough? I didn't realise it was disputed but still some attribute it to socrates and I guess the meaning is subjective and open to interpretation. I do have strong beliefs of course and you're correct that at my core I feel that from my perspective of the world they're right. I feel though that through having those strong beliefs it's why I'm more opposed to this "lesser of two evils" approach. With that said though I feel I'm a bit more open and less rigid with my views, in the past I'd have generally conscribed to voting between the big two too. And of course in my own country the tribal voting is well documented too but at least through our different electoral process we do have a better spread of representation now. This is exactly why it's incredibly important to not be settling for second best. These last 100 years aren't the normal and if we can look back 10, 20, 30 years ago and look ahead the same amount and recognise a slow trend were many of these things are getting worse, then when do you take action? If we always focus on the option which slows the rot then we still rot eventually. All the more reason to be incredibly wary and cautious about who we are electing. We've seen enough videos from Gaza and Ukraine to see how easily a load of people can be wiped out by the press of a button miles away. Before 100 years ago those leaders needed armies and people on their side to stay in power and win wars. It's not about if it's enough. Manpower was our bargaining tool before, without that we may find we are also just as disposable as those in Ukraine and Gaza. When capitalism is driven by profit and when humas become an expense compared to robots and AI... and if the profits are all syphoned to a few oligarchs. Where's our bargaining power? |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 7, 2024 20:45:43 GMT
Hearing woke melts in meltdown mode responding to the emphatic, crushing Trump victory has been a thing of absolute beauty. They just had some American lady on CNN UK (Sky News) who lives in the UK "ohhh myyy gawwd I will never return to my country now. He's a racist, evil man blah blah blah". Utterly pathetic. Also what on earth was Crazy Kamala going on about in her losing speech?! Sums up her disastrous campaign. I think we are just upset that the wonderful De Santis didn’t make it. And the question on all our lips is whether Trump can possibly match anything quite as incredible as Kwarteng and Truss’s brilliant budget!? |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 7, 2024 20:49:59 GMT
Angry Oggy. You watching this Gawa? Oggy is just doing a bit of fishing mate. He's caught some big ones tonight. |
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Post by Foster on Nov 7, 2024 20:52:52 GMT
I didn’t call anyone a rape apologist. A vote for Trump is a vote for a felon and a sex offender. I am sure that’s not the reason most people voted for him, but who knows. I am sure many voted for his policies (he must have some real ones!) and many others voted for him because they dislike Harris/Biden/extreme left communists or whatever they apparently are (which is what many were saying earlier today on here). Some will have voted for him because they always vote Republican. It is only you, who despite you admitting you don’t speak for the American people, who apparently knows why the American people voted for him it seems! And it was just his policies.Quite clearly I included both people that voted for his policies and simply for Trump himself. They're not though. They support the Republican policies in the main,...other than a demented minority which most political parties have. Anyway, since we're BFFs now I'm not going to continue this exchange. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Nov 7, 2024 20:56:04 GMT
It really is no wonder the likes of Trump are winning elections. Big Nige is coming for Starmer as well in a year or two Yeah it's all over for Starmer already. It's clear he's going to achieve absolutely nothing in the next few years, the country already hate him. Labour really are a nasty mob. But we knew that.. The inevitable war on woke is well and truly underway ☺️ It's over. Get over it. |
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Nov 7, 2024 20:57:10 GMT
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Nov 7, 2024 21:08:04 GMT
They have gone away because the democratic party weaponised the department of Justice to target a political opponent. The exact same thing that the world has been berating countries like Russia for doing for years. Not because he’s a criminal then. Righto. Correct! Hence why charges have been dropped. |
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Post by stokeypenn89 on Nov 7, 2024 21:14:32 GMT
They have gone away because the democratic party weaponised the department of Justice to target a political opponent. The exact same thing that the world has been berating countries like Russia for doing for years. Not because he’s a criminal then. Righto. That's exactly something Putin would say you Facist! |
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Post by oggyoggy on Nov 7, 2024 21:20:34 GMT
Get over what? So why did you tell me why everyone voted Republican if you are not best placed to speak on their behalf? Get over it mate.  On another note…a candidate for hottest cartoon character ever? |
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Post by Foster on Nov 7, 2024 21:26:35 GMT
Get over it mate. On another note…a candidate for hottest cartoon character ever? Debatable...  |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 21:34:09 GMT
Hearing woke melts in meltdown mode responding to the emphatic, crushing Trump victory has been a thing of absolute beauty. They just had some American lady on CNN UK (Sky News) who lives in the UK "ohhh myyy gawwd I will never return to my country now. He's a racist, evil man blah blah blah". Utterly pathetic. Also what on earth was Crazy Kamala going on about in her losing speech?! Sums up her disastrous campaign. I think we are just upset that the wonderful De Santis didn’t make it. And the question on all our lips is whether Trump can possibly match anything quite as incredible as Kwarteng and Truss’s brilliant budget!? Actually I strongly expect Trump's budget to be very much along the lines of a libertarian Kwasi budget. As for Super Ron, he's doing just fine. He's living his best life in Florida and will be at the forefront of Republican politics for years to come. That said, it looks like 2028 could be the Vivek show. The guy is an unbelievably skilfull orator. I guess it's hard to take for you Oggy. You've lost your beloved, corrupt old boys club in Brussels, Starmer looks set to be ousted at the first opportunity and now your woke dystopia of a United States led by a lady who values the mutilation of children and blokes claiming they are women over real life issues - ie, the economy, law and order and preventing WW3. The woke empire is crumbling and it's going to be burnt to the ground. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 7, 2024 21:40:07 GMT
I think we are just upset that the wonderful De Santis didn’t make it. And the question on all our lips is whether Trump can possibly match anything quite as incredible as Kwarteng and Truss’s brilliant budget!? Actually I strongly expect Trump's budget to be very much along the lines of a libertarian Kwasi budget. As for Super Ron, he's doing just fine. He's living his best life in Florida and will be at the forefront of Republican politics for years to come. That said, it looks like 2028 could be the Vivek show. The guy is an unbelievably skilfull orator. I guess it's hard to take for you Oggy. You've lost your beloved, corrupt old boys club in Brussels, Starmer looks set to be ousted at the first opportunity and now your woke dystopia of a United States led by a lady who values the mutilation of children and blokes claiming they are women over real life issues - ie, the economy, law and order and preventing WW3. The woke empire is crumbling and it's going to be burnt to the ground. This week has been terrible. The only saving grace is that you have now successfully put the bianco mockers on the 'skillful orator' Vivek in the same way you did for 'class act' Ron. 😁 It'll be Haley in 2028. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 21:44:22 GMT
Actually I strongly expect Trump's budget to be very much along the lines of a libertarian Kwasi budget. As for Super Ron, he's doing just fine. He's living his best life in Florida and will be at the forefront of Republican politics for years to come. That said, it looks like 2028 could be the Vivek show. The guy is an unbelievably skilfull orator. I guess it's hard to take for you Oggy. You've lost your beloved, corrupt old boys club in Brussels, Starmer looks set to be ousted at the first opportunity and now your woke dystopia of a United States led by a lady who values the mutilation of children and blokes claiming they are women over real life issues - ie, the economy, law and order and preventing WW3. The woke empire is crumbling and it's going to be burnt to the ground. This week has been terrible. The only saving grace is that you have now successfully put the bianco mockers on the 'skillful orator' Vivek in the same way you did for 'class act' Ron. 😁 It'll be Haley in 2028. Haley is fit ❤️ It's been a fantastic week. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 7, 2024 21:48:28 GMT
I honestly don’t know how some of you lefties dare to leave the house sometimes
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 22:02:11 GMT
I honestly don’t know how some of you lefties dare to leave the house sometimes The liberal left literally didn't leave the house for two years mate. They were busy self flaggelating to BLM in their lockdown wonderland, masked up to the hilt and cheering on the destruction of the economy, the assault on children's education and health, a two tier society while encouraging the shutting down of our health service for anything other than covid. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2024 22:06:55 GMT
Not because he’s a criminal then. Righto. Correct! Hence why charges have been dropped. 🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️ Jesus Christ. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 7, 2024 22:10:16 GMT
This week has been terrible. The only saving grace is that you have now successfully put the bianco mockers on the 'skillful orator' Vivek in the same way you did for 'class act' Ron. 😁 It'll be Haley in 2028. Haley is fit ❤️ It's been a fantastic week. Agree with point one. Point two, less so. |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Nov 7, 2024 22:10:49 GMT
Correct! Hence why charges have been dropped. 🤣🤣🤣🤦♂️ Jesus Christ. 😅😅😅 gave me the giggles too. Bless 'em. |
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Post by Gawa on Nov 7, 2024 22:12:37 GMT
Up the communists.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 7, 2024 22:13:02 GMT
😅😅😅 gave me the giggles too. Bless 'em. It’s almost like someone who says “grab ‘em by the pussy” is very likely to be a rapist. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 22:21:27 GMT
Haley is fit ❤️ It's been a fantastic week. Agree with point one. Point two, less so. A right wing milf who loves power, has power, has money and has a worldie figure - 🫠🫠🤤 |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 7, 2024 22:22:39 GMT
Your supporter base is like a Wigan away end 😊 |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 7, 2024 22:37:37 GMT
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Post by Gawa on Nov 7, 2024 23:15:30 GMT
So desperate to win tweeter of the year 🤣. You're not even gonna be on the nominee list. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Nov 7, 2024 23:18:07 GMT
So desperate to win tweeter of the year 🤣. You're not even gonna be on the nominee list. Twatter more like. |
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