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Post by cheekymatt71 on Feb 4, 2017 11:06:03 GMT
Okay, right you are then  I apologise , that was very glib . It is howvever very frustrating that the fantastic amount of high quality work he did a a football manager with us (so many players producing the best football of their careers) and the magnificent efforts he made for the general community of the city should be dismissed with such abuse. All this is then enflamed by the very stupid behaviour of a young footballer and the entirely unproven assumption that TP 'leaked" this to the press. So Wuzza imagine if it was later proved that Pulis was the one leaking this stuff to the press. Would that change your opinion of the man? I guess not. For some he can do no wrong. He left Stoke City with a huge amount of goodwill from supporters. That has been eradicated NOT because his teams have generally beat us but the way he shows no grace in victory or defeat when his teams play Stoke. Watch his antics on the touchline today. Will barely look at Hughes when the handshake is offered. Snidey bitter man |
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Post by realstokebloke on Feb 4, 2017 11:08:18 GMT
Toxic is a wanker. Playing the "I don't care he's not our problem anymore" card then going on in more depth about how The club stuck with Berahino through bad times and he should be greatful. Oh ah Tony.. the club that denied him his big move to Spurs, always the players fault.. It's all about Tone.. and if anyone disagrees you hang them out to dry. I hate the fucker for what he did at Valencia away. I hate him even more for his antics at our place last year. And then when I found out exactly what happened at Arsenal and 'towel gate' a few months back from a player who was there... It made me realise what a wanker Pulis really is. Roll on tomorrow. We'll have the last laugh I'm sure of it. What did happen?
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Post by wuzza on Feb 4, 2017 11:10:15 GMT
I apologise , that was very glib . It is howvever very frustrating that the fantastic amount of high quality work he did a a football manager with us (so many players producing the best football of their careers) and the magnificent efforts he made for the general community of the city should be dismissed with such abuse. All this is then enflamed by the very stupid behaviour of a young footballer and the entirely unproven assumption that TP 'leaked" this to the press. Not many are just dismissing what he did for us. In fact, many have openly said they are grateful for what he did but that doesn't mean you're never ever allowed to criticise people for further actions they then go onto carry out. Being grateful to people in any walk of life doesn't then mean they have carte blanche to act in whatever they want with impunity from there on in. That's just ridiculous. IF it is Pulis (and it is only an if) that has leaked all of this out then he's a prick and has gone against FA policy so deserves criticism. If it isn't him then fair enough. However, you have as little evidence to state it definitely wasn't him as anyone else does to say it was. If you think they're twats to slag him enough without proof then you're just as bad to slag them off without any proof of your own. Some have gone over the top on here agreed, but you just tarring everyone with the same brush and ignoring those who HAVE admitted he did well whilst with us but then he went on to be a prick is pretty lame really. You've tried to put everyone into 2 distinct camps when that quite simply isn't the case at all. Over the years reasoned discussion on this subject has gone out of the window I entirely agree. I have to admit that try as I might I simply cannot get into the mind-set of a Stoke City supporter or even a S-O-T resident that produces the bile about TP that has appeared on this message board. This case represents it to a T - the bloke has done nothing (other than express mild frustration with a young player who appears to have had multiple cases of bad indiscipline) but an assumption is made by those whose 'cause' it suits and it is more or less taken on as factual and all the mindless stuff follows. I don't think it reflects well on us as a supporter base. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 11:11:23 GMT
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 4, 2017 11:11:23 GMT
Talk sport this morning suggesting that we didn't know about this drug ban If that's true Mark Hughes must have lied in his prematch presser |
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Post by medwaypotter on Feb 4, 2017 11:12:06 GMT
I've never really expressed an opinion of TP, grateful for what he achieved getting us to the promised land and keeping us there. I have defended him on occasion when our manager, and to a lesser degree after. But holy shit, he must be bitter over his SCFC departure, and after listening to that shit he spouted yesterday,and the timing of 'revelation', he can truly go fuck himself sideways.
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Post by wuzza on Feb 4, 2017 11:16:59 GMT
I apologise , that was very glib . It is howvever very frustrating that the fantastic amount of high quality work he did a a football manager with us (so many players producing the best football of their careers) and the magnificent efforts he made for the general community of the city should be dismissed with such abuse. All this is then enflamed by the very stupid behaviour of a young footballer and the entirely unproven assumption that TP 'leaked" this to the press. So Wuzza imagine if it was later proved that Pulis was the one leaking this stuff to the press. Would that change your opinion of the man? I guess not. For some he can do no wrong. He left Stoke City with a huge amount of goodwill from supporters. That has been eradicated NOT because his teams have generally beat us but the way he shows no grace in victory or defeat when his teams play Stoke. Watch his antics on the touchline today. Will barely look at Hughes when the handshake is offered. Snidey bitter man Yes it would because breaking a confidence such as this just to gain some sort of supposed advantage in a football match would be unworthy.....do you have any evidence whatsoever he has done this? Touchline antics are a ridiculous arguement - our current manager is up there with the very worst regarding that (and for what it's worth have a look back and see how graceful he was in defeat to us when he managed elsewhere) but frankly who cares!! Do snidely men give huge amounts of time and effort to benefit others - not in my experience, perhaps you know different. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 11:17:01 GMT
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 4, 2017 11:17:01 GMT
People need to remember there are hundreds of employees at West Brom.
There are players who did not like him. Think it was James Morrison who punched him after a game. There is a former owner who did not like him and was the main instigator in forcing him to stay at the club. What stopped any of those from sending a text to a journo?
The obsession that everything has to be TP is embarrassing. Last week somebody even said it was TP's Stoke obsession for the reason they reduced their ticker prices... Nothing to do with a new Chief Executive or newish Chairman, it HAD to be TP!
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Post by VolvicStokie on Feb 4, 2017 11:25:23 GMT
Yeah, VolvicStokie, spill or a couple of PMs in the post please.
Can't spill here. I give a Stoke legend my word! Will PM |
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 4, 2017 11:28:11 GMT
Yeah, VolvicStokie, spill or a couple of PMs in the post please.Â
Can't spill here. I give a Stoke legend my word! Will PM You can't drop a bombshell like that and then not let us know the rest |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 11:39:24 GMT
I'm all ears....
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 12:08:24 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Feb 4, 2017 12:08:24 GMT
Which we all know LP...but there are always some that then quote them as gospel if it gives them an excuse to slag the club off I was merely saying what I heard as I travelled down to stoke this morning. Not saying its,true or slagging the club off. What berahino did or didn't do is of little interest to me. All that matters is what he produces and how he behaves in a stoke shirt. Wasn't criticising you for reporting it all mate, just saying (as we all know) some will latch onto it to slag the club off despite those same people slating talksport to the hilt as and when it suits their argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 12:20:10 GMT
A lot of overhype about this player and his former manager
surely - time to move on ?
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Post by werrington on Feb 4, 2017 12:23:11 GMT
Talk sport this morning suggesting that we didn't know about this drug ban If that's true Mark Hughes must have lied in his prematch presser So it's mark Hughes you are after ? You've defended Pulis to the hilt and now see an opening to question Hughes Pathetic |
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Post by thegrassyknoll on Feb 4, 2017 12:24:09 GMT
SB was not liked by the 1st team players at WBA (e.g. not one complementary word from ANY player in interview, or the less regulated social media outlets)since his departure.
It is far more likely that a PLAYER has spilled the beans to the vile Mail. I'm just amazed that it took this long to surface.
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Post by thebet365 on Feb 4, 2017 12:28:15 GMT
Talk sport this morning suggesting that we didn't know about this drug ban I would imagine given the sums involved in the transfer WBA would of had a duty to make us aware of the ban. If he suddenly appears to have a habit that we now know WBA knew about they'd be open to be sued for all our losses. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 12:43:06 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 4, 2017 12:43:06 GMT
Talk sport this morning suggesting that we didn't know about this drug ban I would imagine given the sums involved in the transfer WBA would of had a duty to make us aware of the ban. If he suddenly appears to have a habit that we now know WBA knew about they'd be open to be sued for all our losses. Hughes has said WBA didn't share the info with us hasn't he? |
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Post by trigger on Feb 4, 2017 12:44:04 GMT
Talk sport this morning suggesting that we didn't know about this drug ban I would imagine given the sums involved in the transfer WBA would of had a duty to make us aware of the ban. If he suddenly appears to have a habit that we now know WBA knew about they'd be open to be sued for all our losses. I feel that hard to believe, presume that a random test would have identified the substance, whatever it was. The FA notified ban implemented and placed onto his records which we would have had sight of, we're not talking about a few quid here on a player |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 12:50:38 GMT
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 4, 2017 12:50:38 GMT
If that's true Mark Hughes must have lied in his prematch presser So it's mark Hughes you are after ? You've defended Pulis to the hilt and now see an opening to question Hughes Pathetic He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 12:54:57 GMT
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Post by werrington on Feb 4, 2017 12:54:57 GMT
So it's mark Hughes you are after ? You've defended Pulis to the hilt and now see an opening to question Hughes Pathetic He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. Like I said |
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Post by salopstick on Feb 4, 2017 13:08:25 GMT
Please Saido score and do an adebayour
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Post by scfcwebby on Feb 4, 2017 13:14:50 GMT
Please Saido score and do an adebayour A mix of Adebayor and Robbie Fowler would be great  |
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Post by keasie1863 on Feb 4, 2017 13:19:36 GMT
Please Saido score and do an adebayour A mix of Adebayor and Robbie Fowler would be great Run towards the dug out, slide on his knees, whilst rubbing his belly. The fucking ground would go into meltdown. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 13:24:01 GMT
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 4, 2017 13:24:01 GMT
He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. Like I said Indeed. You can't answer the question without having to fault Hughes. Funny how you fall over yourself to find fault with TP... Sad man. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 13:29:43 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 4, 2017 13:29:43 GMT
I would imagine given the sums involved in the transfer WBA would of had a duty to make us aware of the ban. If he suddenly appears to have a habit that we now know WBA knew about they'd be open to be sued for all our losses. Hughes has said WBA didn't share the info with us hasn't he? There's a direct quote in the Star which says we knew but neither West Brom or The FA informed us. Pretty shady all round really. |
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Berahino
Feb 4, 2017 13:40:09 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 4, 2017 13:40:09 GMT
So it's mark Hughes you are after ? You've defended Pulis to the hilt and now see an opening to question Hughes Pathetic He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. 2 lost court cases for fraud is the difference |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Feb 4, 2017 13:48:50 GMT
Hughes has said WBA didn't share the info with us hasn't he? There's a direct quote in the Star which says we knew but neither West Brom or The FA informed us. Pretty shady all round really. I only know what I've read but it seems that because it was recreational drugs and 'out of competition testing' West Brom and The FA are obliged to NOT tell anyone about it. It's their Uman Rite apparantly and as a drug user should be treated with compassion and confidentiality. Don't know who's rules they are FA or FIFA but that would explain Hughes' comments ie that West Brom didn't tell us but they knew from another source. I would suggest Saido and or his team fessed up. You would wouldn't you. As you say though it's very shady. |
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Post by parsons75 on Feb 4, 2017 13:50:43 GMT
He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. 2 lost court cases for fraud is the difference The question has nothing to do with Pulis. Which answer was a lie from Hughes? Did he know about the ban? Or did he have no idea why Berahino was not selected? Or are you another guy who can not answer the question without trying to twist it back on Pulis? |
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 4, 2017 13:58:39 GMT
So it's mark Hughes you are after ? You've defended Pulis to the hilt and now see an opening to question Hughes Pathetic He either lied about not knowing why Berahino was not being picked. Or he lied about knowing about the ban. Which one is it? If there's even a hint of TP lying you're all over him like a rash. How come Hughes is immune in your eyes? You're like a love sick schoolboy. A look in the mirror and you would see how pathetic that looks. MH knew about the ban. There is an FA directive that such bans are confidential, therefore he was surely acting correctly when saying he didn't know why Saido wasn't picked. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 4, 2017 13:58:47 GMT
2 lost court cases for fraud is the difference The question has nothing to do with Pulis. Which answer was a lie from Hughes? Did he know about the ban? Or did he have no idea why Berahino was not selected? Or are you another guy who can not answer the question without trying to twist it back on Pulis? If you could be arsed to read this thread and some of the links on it, you would see that Hughes has confirmed that he knew about Berahino's ban from Berahino and/or his agent. But, as the ban ended in early December, Hughes may still be in the dark as to why Berahino was not even on the bench in first team games between early December and the day we signed him. |
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Post by hchpotter on Feb 4, 2017 14:08:44 GMT
I really don't understand what's going on here. We don't know Pulis leaked anything to anyone about a drug ban but he's being absolutely slaughtered in the vilest terms for something some people assume that he's done.
What we do know is that Saido publicly commented after his transfer that he had no idea why Pulis wouldn't play him. This has been exposed as a clear lie. He wasn't played because he was banned by the FA. He was banned because he was taking drugs.
Now, imagine the stance people would take on here if it was revealed that, for example, Wollscheid had not been selected by Mark and the team because of drug use. Footballers earn an absolute fortune and in return should make sacrifices to continue earning the fortunes that us stupid supporters fund. If, for example, Wollscheid had been drink driving, smoking hippy shit and using acid whilst pocketing his wages from our football club he would rightly get pelters on the Oatcake.
Saido had done all of the above and then lied to the press that he had no idea as to why he couldn't get a game. No wonder his misdemeanours were then leaked to the press by someone (we know not by whom) who took umbrage at Saido's ingenuousness.
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