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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:48:36 GMT
Maybe so mate but it's yet another example of a club getting transfer fees for players that our club can only dream of I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it's a poor example in this instance. Allardyce obviously has the hots for him and Palace are panicking. How much did they pay for Schullp as well?It just winds me up that players like this aren't fit to lace his boots and we're selling him for peanuts apparently 😡
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 28, 2017 12:48:48 GMT
No thankfully it's not your job to . No we have a bloke who struggles with it. Maybe we should accept 80,000 posts... erm I mean pounds for him.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 12:49:11 GMT
We'll get nowhere near that amount for Bojan. It's blindingly obvious. He's surplus to requirements. Buyers will be well aware of that. We either have a realistic fee in mind, or we keep him. It is because we have a poor ceo. WBA had a player they didn't want with 6 months left on his contract and got 14m for him. It kind of shows you're chatting shir with your point. Chatting shit? You're obviously not aware that 6 months left on his contract counts for very little. If you were clued up you'd know we'd pay a fee anyway (and it would be determined out of our hand). I thought you'd be aware of that if I'm being honest. I await your "I know about that" response.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:50:20 GMT
Why should we be bothered how much money Stoke get for a player? It keeps some people awake at night. Ultimately a player is worth what teams are prepared to pay for them, but for the buying club the transfer fee is irrelevant it's the cost of the overall deal over the lifetime of the contract that matters. For example if we'd have signed Diouf when he was under contract for £8m he'd have ended up earning a lot less in wages than he does now because we paid no fee for him. But essentially the numbers would have been similar either way. And it's the same with Bojan, because he's a high earner (£65k a week) teams may want to claw some back on the transfer fee to bring the cost of the overall package down, whereas players not as good as Bojan will go for higher transfer fees as they'll be on a third of his weekly wage.....
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:50:43 GMT
No we have a bloke who struggles with it. Maybe we should accept 80,000 posts... erm I mean pounds for him. Bayern has his opinion like many others share on this subject,no need to have a go about his posting numbers over it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:52:02 GMT
It is because we have a poor ceo. WBA had a player they didn't want with 6 months left on his contract and got 14m for him. It kind of shows you're chatting shir with your point. Chatting shit? You're obviously not aware that 6 months left on his contract counts for very little. If you were clued up you'd know we'd pay a fee anyway (and it would be determined out of our hand). I thought you'd be aware of that if I'm being honest. I await your "I know about that" response. Haha oh wd you're excelling yourself this morning. It doesn't mean little, they wouldn't have got anywhere near that. And the point still stand your initial statement is just utter horseshit aimed at belittling people that is proven wrong by the last transfer we made and most of them before.
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 28, 2017 12:52:16 GMT
We can't keep him here if he doesn't want to stay .Legally we could make him stay but when a player is adamant he wants to go invariably he does. You're phantasizing about some player you think wants to leave. According to the manager Bojan has not expressed any desire to leave, though obviously he's not happy with being out. Skip the p and it's f not h and your there.Bojan has expressed his unhappiness at not playing and unless this changes which doesn't look likely then he won't want to stay,he has expressed a desire to leave by implication.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:52:56 GMT
Maybe we should accept 80,000 posts... erm I mean pounds for him. Bayern has his opinion like many others share on this subject,no need to have a go about his posting numbers over it Yeah but he can't put a coherent argument otherwise, much easier to attack that. It's pathetic but highly amusing.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 12:54:04 GMT
Bayern has his opinion like many others share on this subject,no need to have a go about his posting numbers over it Yeah but he can't put a coherent argument otherwise, much easier to attack that. It's pathetic but highly amusing. Its fuckin pathetic mate
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 12:54:13 GMT
Chatting shit? You're obviously not aware that 6 months left on his contract counts for very little. If you were clued up you'd know we'd pay a fee anyway (and it would be determined out of our hand). I thought you'd be aware of that if I'm being honest. I await your "I know about that" response. Haha oh wd you're excelling yourself this morning. It doesn't mean little, they wouldn't have got anywhere near that. And the point still stand your initial statement is just utter horseshit aimed at belittling people that is proven wrong by the last transfer we made and most of them before. It's horseshit? We'll see when we get 15 mill for him 😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:54:18 GMT
What is it with Stoke City fans and transfer fees? It's a mindset I don't get at all. HE'S NOT WORTH £12MILLION BUT IN THE CURRENT MARKET IT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING FOR HIM. Yup. It's a mindset that besmirches the area I think and correlates to why the area is how it is. Accept it because that's how it is. That doesn't sit well with me. Not this fucking bullshit as usual. We have owners that have cornered the market in every country across the globe with Bet365 yet they apparently have a "Stoke on Trent mentality"
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 12:54:50 GMT
We'll get nowhere near that amount for Bojan. It's blindingly obvious. He's surplus to requirements. Buyers will be well aware of that. We either have a realistic fee in mind, or we keep him. It is because we have a poor ceo. WBA had a player they didn't want with 6 months left on his contract and got 14m for him. It kind of shows you're chatting shir with your point. And hadn't played for two years...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:56:14 GMT
Haha oh wd you're excelling yourself this morning. It doesn't mean little, they wouldn't have got anywhere near that. And the point still stand your initial statement is just utter horseshit aimed at belittling people that is proven wrong by the last transfer we made and most of them before. It's horseshit? We'll see when we get 15 mill for him 😂😂😂😂😂 We won't but that's the problem of this club.
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Post by Davef on Jan 28, 2017 12:57:21 GMT
When you've finished arguing like a bunch of kids, perhaps you should go back to the first post of this thread and look at the tweet from the same people...
Just a thought.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:57:29 GMT
Yup. It's a mindset that besmirches the area I think and correlates to why the area is how it is. Accept it because that's how it is. That doesn't sit well with me. Not this fucking bullshit as usual. We have owners that have cornered the market in every country across the globe with Bet365 yet they apparently have a "Stoke on Trent mentality" I think we're in the mould of Peter ran business and not a Denise ran business. The two are quite different.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 12:58:27 GMT
It's horseshit? We'll see when we get 15 mill for him 😂😂😂😂😂 We won't but that's the problem of this club. So I'm right then? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 12:58:44 GMT
Not this fucking bullshit as usual. We have owners that have cornered the market in every country across the globe with Bet365 yet they apparently have a "Stoke on Trent mentality" I think we're in the mould of Peter ran business and not a Denise ran business. The two are quite different. Which reads to me as you're just making shit up and then moaning about it.....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:59:10 GMT
We won't but that's the problem of this club. So I'm right then? Thanks. You were proven wrong with our last transfer!
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Post by pottersrule on Jan 28, 2017 12:59:13 GMT
It is because we have a poor ceo. WBA had a player they didn't want with 6 months left on his contract and got 14m for him. It kind of shows you're chatting shir with your point. And hadn't played for two years... Played four months ago.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 12:59:34 GMT
I think we're in the mould of Peter ran business and not a Denise ran business. The two are quite different. Which reads to me as you're just making shit up and then moaning about it..... Erm no. But carry on.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 13:00:11 GMT
So I'm right then? Thanks. You were proven wrong with our last transfer! Do you want a hand with those goalposts?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 13:00:42 GMT
Yup. It's a mindset that besmirches the area I think and correlates to why the area is how it is. Accept it because that's how it is. That doesn't sit well with me. Not this fucking bullshit as usual. We have owners that have cornered the market in every country across the globe with Bet365 yet they apparently have a "Stoke on Trent mentality" You're right, that's why it's baffling why we're poor negotiators and under sell our club and assets.
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Post by lordb on Jan 28, 2017 13:02:58 GMT
Has a fee been reported?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 28, 2017 13:03:00 GMT
And hadn't played for two years... Played four months ago. Been out of the team and squad far more than he has been in it for 2 years. TWO YEARS. On that criteria I'd want £20million for Bojan.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 13:03:33 GMT
You were proven wrong with our last transfer! Do you want a hand with those goalposts? No. You belittled people. That was proven wrong with the last transfer we did. The end.
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Post by lagwafis on Jan 28, 2017 13:10:15 GMT
We will get what the market dictates.Where does this arbitrary figure of £12 million come from?The situation is such that both parties now favour seperation, so it is not in the interest of either party to prolong it for to long. If there are several teams competing for his signature we will get more obviously. To say that that Scholes needs sacking if we sell him for less than £12 million isn't very fair when you aren't party to what is going on behind the scenes. Hes not long signed a long term contract though mate so WTF should he go unless it's on our terms i.e. The right fee? I think the problem with long contracts is they can be just as much a hinderance as an advantage when a player falls out of favour. If he's really on £65k a week and has another four years on his contract Stoke would have a commitment to pay near £14 million (not including the inevitable add ons, bonuses, etc.) for someone who the manager may no longer want. There's bound to be someone managing the books at Stoke who'd be willing to cut our loses, rip that contract up and reinvest the wages elsewhere. No doubt any bidder would also claim they'd be helping us shift an unwanted player. I still hope we do our utmost to get as much as we can for him - historically we've always had a habit of getting a poor return on sales (Dixon, Bould, Sheron, Stein). That said, a fee of under £10 million wouldn't surprise me either given the current situation.
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 28, 2017 13:10:50 GMT
No Idea, you have to scroll through a load of arguing to find what you are looking for.
My guess is back to Spain, somewhere like Valencia, Betis etc
And I cannot see us getting anymore than about 6m
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 28, 2017 13:11:52 GMT
The point is he is not good enough to start for Stoke he is earning more in a week than two nurses earn in a year for sitting about getting splinters in his arse
Its not just the fee we sell him for it's the wages saved
So all the experts out there what's the going rate for a player not good enough to get in a Stoke side
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 28, 2017 13:12:06 GMT
Do you want a hand with those goalposts? No. You belittled people. That was proven wrong with the last transfer we did. The end. I thought we were talking about Bojan?
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Post by slother on Jan 28, 2017 13:14:09 GMT
What the fuck are you all arguing about? We don't know the fucking bid yet!! Can you save this for then?
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