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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2017 13:14:35 GMT
Why are people arguing with these anti stoke tools over a Tweet from well known know nothings?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 13:17:28 GMT
Why are people arguing with these anti stoke tools over a Tweet from well known know nothings? Classy as ever
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2017 13:20:05 GMT
Why are people arguing with these anti stoke tools over a Tweet from well known know nothings? Classy as ever As bitter and twisted ever. All this faux outrage is no good for your health, think of your loved ones... oh never mind.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 28, 2017 13:20:27 GMT
Bayern has his opinion like many others share on this subject,no need to have a go about his posting numbers over it Yeah but he can't put a coherent argument otherwise, much easier to attack that. It's pathetic but highly amusing. Oh I can put a perfectly coherent argument together, but I find very little point with you, people go back and forth with you for hours and even days on threads and get nowhere, and you enjoy it, which is fine, and also why you have 80,000 odd posts.
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Post by timbo1988 on Jan 28, 2017 13:20:48 GMT
Come on Dave.......bit harsh that. In your opinion. Not in mine. Were you missing for the 3 months before he did his ACL where he was Man of the Match most games. Since the injury he has not comeback the same player and looks scared of contact but that statement is way over the top.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jan 28, 2017 13:21:10 GMT
I don't know what's more mind boggling, the fact that we have fans who've written the lad off and don't think he has anything to offer us or that we have fans who'd happily sell him for a seven figure fee and think we've got a good deal.
These same fans will be blarting about lack of service for Berahino when he's struggling to get goals in our current system.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 13:21:53 GMT
Yeah but he can't put a coherent argument otherwise, much easier to attack that. It's pathetic but highly amusing. Oh I can put a perfectly coherent argument together, but I find very little point with you, people go back and forth with you for hours and even days on threads and get nowhere, and you enjoy it, which is fine, and also why you have 80,000 odd posts. You clearly can't. And that's called debating. More of it needs to happen on here.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 28, 2017 13:22:16 GMT
Imagine, the way you go from this earth is from losing your shit over the potential fee of Bojan.. get a grip ladies.
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 28, 2017 13:24:41 GMT
Yeah but he can't put a coherent argument otherwise, much easier to attack that. It's pathetic but highly amusing. Its fuckin pathetic mate Isn't it time for you to change your name again?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2017 13:26:07 GMT
Imagine, the way you go from this earth is from losing your shit over the potential fee of Bojan.. get a grip ladies. I can't speak for the others but currently I'm lying down watching Liverpool, losing no shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 13:37:58 GMT
Ill be gutted if he goes
a top European footballer
just coming back into form - after a long injury and recovery
id be making promises to him to keep him with us
a steal for someone
a rare talent
hoping he sees the 'long game' and stays
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 28, 2017 13:44:22 GMT
Imagine, the way you go from this earth is from losing your shit over the potential fee of Bojan.. get a grip ladies. I can't speak for the others but currently I'm lying down watching Liverpool, losing no shit. I'm doing the same tbf, waiting for Klopp to lose his shit
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 28, 2017 13:45:59 GMT
Isn't it time for you to change your name again? Grow up FFS
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 13:46:53 GMT
In your opinion. Not in mine. Were you missing for the 3 months before he did his ACL where he was Man of the Match most games. Since the injury he has not comeback the same player and looks scared of contact but that statement is way over the top. Of course I wasn't missing but 12 weeks (and it wasn't that long) over 3 years isn't much is it? I lean more towards his good spell being a blip rather than the norm.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 28, 2017 13:58:18 GMT
Fingers crossed it's China so we can get a massively extortionate fee for a vastly over-rated little fairy. Shame the manager suddenly likes an engine in that role rather than an artist.
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Post by liamo on Jan 28, 2017 14:22:47 GMT
Fingers crossed it's China so we can get a massively extortionate fee for a vastly over-rated little fairy. Shame the manager suddenly likes an engine in that role rather than an artist. Hughes was probably a very very relieved man when Allen started scoring and it justified him putting him there, people saw it as an act of genius when really it was more like "Fuuuuuck, he's not a box to box" Hughes being in charge is just an endless fix one problem by creating another type situation
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 14:23:44 GMT
Shame the manager suddenly likes an engine in that role rather than an artist. Hughes was probably a very very relieved man when Allen started scoring and it justified him putting him there, people saw it as an act of genius when really it was more like "Fuuuuuck, he's not a box to box" Hughes being in charge is just an endless fix one problem by creating another type situation At least he's not playing a third division target man there. We'd have to panic if he ever went down that road. Just saying...
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Post by liamo on Jan 28, 2017 14:28:49 GMT
Hughes was probably a very very relieved man when Allen started scoring and it justified him putting him there, people saw it as an act of genius when really it was more like "Fuuuuuck, he's not a box to box" Hughes being in charge is just an endless fix one problem by creating another type situation At least he's not playing a third division target man there. We'd have to panic if he ever went down that road. Just saying... Yeah, that goes without saying, i even understand why we're having to play Joe Allen there, i just disagree with fans saying Bojan is shit and that's why he's been dropped and is probably on his way out He's having to make way because our midfield is weak without a 3rd motor
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 14:30:01 GMT
Fingers crossed it's China so we can get a massively extortionate fee for a vastly over-rated little fairy. Shame the manager suddenly likes an engine in that role rather than an artist. If he could draw anything beyond a stick man maybe he'd be a good artist.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2017 14:32:25 GMT
At least he's not playing a third division target man there. We'd have to panic if he ever went down that road. Just saying... Yeah, that goes without saying, i even understand why we're having to play Joe Allen there, i just disagree with fans saying Bojan is shit and that's why he's been dropped and is probably on his way out He's having to make way because our midfield is weak without a 3rd motor Isn't that the very definition of bojan's problem...its always someone else's fault. Are we sure he's Spanish and not scouse?
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Post by liamo on Jan 28, 2017 14:44:14 GMT
Yeah, that goes without saying, i even understand why we're having to play Joe Allen there, i just disagree with fans saying Bojan is shit and that's why he's been dropped and is probably on his way out He's having to make way because our midfield is weak without a 3rd motor Isn't that the very definition of bojan's problem...its always someone else's fault. Are we sure he's Spanish and not scouse? No? He's just a luxury we can't afford at the moment because we're being forced in to using 3 midfielders to do the job of 2.. he is the type of player that will create chances, not the type to sprint around like a cheetah with dynamite up it's arse In a balanced team with Bojan in it, him having a bad game should mean he doesn't score or create chances, when did we start judging our forward players on how well they track back? I know it's not relevant to your post but still.. i've seen him being criticised for not running around aimlessly There's just literally no combination of our squad that allows us to play a traditional No.10 and be sound defensively, that's a problem that runs deeper than Bojan leaving, it's a big issue we've spent £30m trying to fix and as of now Hughes has given up trying, he's just switched formation/personnel to cover up the hole
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Post by jezzascfc on Jan 28, 2017 15:00:10 GMT
The issue we have is that English football requires all midfielders to contribute going forward and defensively. We cannot afford too many luxury players who do not put in a shift as well. If Bojan, Imbula and Shaq all start, it is a near certainty we lose the midfield battle and even their potential going forward is not utilised. You need to earn the right to play your football.
Bojan must have a team built around him at number 10, with hard workers in the other midfield areas. When he had his purple patch, you could justify doing so. Since then he simply has not shown form worthy of our doing so. We have moved on. Shaq came in to offer another attacking option. We now have Berahino to give us a different type of striker, which reduces the chance of seeing Bojan as a false nine again. He is now marginalised, a bench option. At his age he rightly wants to be a regular starter. A move to a mid-tier Spanish team would make perfect sense.
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Post by djduncanjames on Jan 28, 2017 15:11:40 GMT
Imagine, the way you go from this earth is from losing your shit over the potential fee of Bojan.. get a grip ladies. To be fair we should all keep a close eye on Bojan Mackey. This must be a really hard time for him, we all need to be more supportive
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Post by crownmeking on Jan 28, 2017 15:15:12 GMT
Isn't it time for you to change your name again? Grow up FFS Or I could not grow up, have a temper tantrum, delete my account and then come back again with my tail between my legs... Sound familiar?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 15:25:30 GMT
Ill be gutted if he goes a top European footballer just coming back into form - after a long injury and recovery id be making promises to him to keep him with us a steal for someone a rare talent hoping he sees the 'long game' and stays Just coming back into form, that's just plain wrong. If any other player performed as badly as Bojan has of late they would get absolute pelters. Take the rose tinted glasses off. If you want him to stay for "potential" that's fine, but to suggest he's in form, that's as wide as the mark as you possibly can be.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2017 15:33:29 GMT
Ill be gutted if he goes a top European footballer just coming back into form - after a long injury and recovery id be making promises to him to keep him with us a steal for someone a rare talent hoping he sees the 'long game' and stays Just coming back into form, that's just plain wrong. If any other player performed as badly as Bojan has of late they would get absolute pelters. Take the rose tinted glasses off. If you want him to stay for "potential" that's fine, but to suggest he's in form, that's as wide as the mark as you possibly can be. Exactly right. It's a great shame that his creative talent has not blossomed. He still looks good if he is allowed to run either with the ball or into free space, but at the top level you are seldom allowed to do that. It's a great shame that such a brilliant young talent has not made it in a man's world wherever he has played.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 15:35:48 GMT
Yeah, that goes without saying, i even understand why we're having to play Joe Allen there, i just disagree with fans saying Bojan is shit and that's why he's been dropped and is probably on his way out He's having to make way because our midfield is weak without a 3rd motor Isn't that the very definition of bojan's problem...its always someone else's fault. Are we sure he's Spanish and not scouse? What a wanky thing to say.
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Post by parsons75 on Jan 28, 2017 15:39:08 GMT
Can't wait until we sell the overrated charlatan.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jan 28, 2017 15:41:46 GMT
Not this fucking bullshit as usual. We have owners that have cornered the market in every country across the globe with Bet365 yet they apparently have a "Stoke on Trent mentality" I think we're in the mould of Peter ran business and not a Denise ran business. The two are quite different. You obviously have access to insight on both Bet365 and Stoke City FC that the rest of us don't. However it is interesting to me that the Premier League continue to think of Stoke City as the best managed club in the Premier League, but what would they know. And even more oddly given how badly run we are, WBA just hired our CFO to be their CEO. But WBA's Chairman is only a successful businessman and I guess its pretty clear he doesn't know anything either. Every time I see the club's management close up they seem pretty impressive but then I only work for one of the world's largest professional services' firms so what do I know about business? Or just maybe its not management? Could it be possible for example that part of the reason, Bojan may move for less than Schlupp is because of salary differentials, Bojan earns more and hence costs the buying club more. Then there is the fact European clubs are poorer than English ones - relegated PL clubs this season will earn more than every Spanish club except Barca and Real from TV rights and if we have decided we don't want to sell him to an English club, we will take the hit but this seems a reasonable business decision.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 28, 2017 15:43:22 GMT
The shortest priced overseas club on oddschecker are Ajax at 20s. Surely if it was true someone would be trying to get a few quid on? There's not been a penny piece for any foreign club unless Celtic are classed as overseas.
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