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Post by happyending on Jan 9, 2017 19:31:04 GMT
Crouch has been a brilliant signing. A great guy. A model professional and a good influence on everyone. He's also a great advert for our club. He deserves a contract for that alone. The fact that he can still do a job for us is a bonus. People have tried to belittle him by talking about his 5 goals this season. Well that's 5 more than the other strikers and he hasn't played every game. Most people won't realise that Crouch has scored 1 less goal for Stoke than Ricardo Fuller did for us. And at a much higher ratio as he's often been sub and played less games. Also every league goal has been scored in the Premier League as opposed to Fuller's 25 in the Championship. I'm not criticusing Fuller just emphasising how disrepected Crouch is yet again. As others have said, he's no slower than he was 10 years ago and will score more goals than most if you supply him. Will be a great option for us until the day he leaves or retires. Totally agree. Whether people want to accept it or not, he is still fully capable of scoring goals in the premier league and has lost none of the attributes that made him successful earlier in his career, apart from the Robocrouch. He's a good pro, a decent guy and would definitely be missed in the dressing room. To let a rival sign him would be totally irresponsible given our lack of firepower and character at times. Extending his deal is a no brainer.
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 9, 2017 19:31:42 GMT
Not against it but got to be honest a 37 and half year old crouchy I'm not sure he'll be up to it
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Jan 9, 2017 19:34:20 GMT
Well, I'm pleased. Let's face it we need as many enthusiastic battlers pleased to play football for a living as we can get and Crouchie, Adam, Whelan, Walters and Allen all seem to fall in to that category PLUS Crouchie is actually a famous football name around the world which helps our profile. After the debacle against Wolves and some other recent individual performances I'm all for keeping a player who can be a positive example in the dressing room and to the younger lads, who knows what it takes to survive in the Prem. and is pretty unassuming and'humble' compared to some of our other up-their-own backside fancydans! He's worth a new contract just for those reasons in fact! let's hope likes of crouchy & walters don't miss chances like they did last week...
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Post by stokief on Jan 9, 2017 19:36:20 GMT
Let's hope that some of the other lazy feckers even try to get themselves into goal-scoring positions!
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Post by RAF on Jan 9, 2017 19:39:42 GMT
I can't be arsed reading all this thread but at least Crouchy is fit and can still play. Mama got a new contract and he was fucked and it was celebrated!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 19:48:00 GMT
Great news... an extension for this old goat who is a big part of our problems with regards to our flair players creating anything.
He's one of the easiest players to play against, zero movement, couldn't beat an egg and defenders are never facing their own goal.
He will be one of the high earners and this bollocks about marketing, he will have little effect on the clubs profile.
Then again nice guy so let's chuck a tonne of wages at home.
Small time mentality.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 9, 2017 19:48:58 GMT
I can't be arsed reading all this thread but at least Crouchy is fit and can still play. Mama got a new contract and he was fucked and it was celebrated! H Couldn't agree more RAF. A one year contract for an established squad player who is likely to be 1 of 5 strikers on the books, seems fine to me.
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Post by alster on Jan 9, 2017 19:52:10 GMT
Great news... an extension for this old goat who is a big part of our problems with regards to our flair players creating anything. He's one of the easiest players to play against, zero movement, couldn't beat an egg and defenders are never facing their own goal. He will be one of the high earners and this bollocks about marketing, he will have little effect on the clubs profile. Then again nice guy so let's chuck a tonne of wages at home. Small time mentality. Seems to be pleasing our small time fans. They say you get what you deserve.
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Post by althoughra on Jan 9, 2017 19:53:57 GMT
maybe this guy could manage celebrity come limping in slow motion, but prem football is a joke that any other top 10 prem club would laugth at. oh well bring on the clowns. with the slow slow super kid from egypt about to make a stance to replace shac. pace is 70% of the requirement in the prem for a striker and wideman. stoke fc are now down to 30%
just my opinion, only time will tell. i shall be happy to say how wrong i can be-----------
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Post by scfcwebby on Jan 9, 2017 19:56:34 GMT
Crouch signs contract extension to stay at Stoke until 2010....
What do you mean we are in 2016 now???
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 9, 2017 20:14:11 GMT
Seeing Crouch get to 100 is the only thing I'm arsed about this season now. Happy to have him another year. It's a sorry shame people can't see the amount he contributes to matches.
I get the age thing but christ on a bike. Get a fucking grip lads.Could you please just talk me through the amount he now contributes to matches, as I'm obviously one of the people who doesn't see it these days.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 9, 2017 20:18:59 GMT
Groundhog Day !😕
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 9, 2017 20:19:48 GMT
. I understand your perspective B. I think/hope that the model we're following allows for 'pathways' for Academy players. Playing the old guard close to their 'Top half Prem' Use By date potentially ensures a smoother transition for the yoof. imo. Don't have to be chucked in nor over exposed, in the knowledge that there's 'reliable' back up who don't need integrating etc too. A mixed bag approach to retention is best, Hughes has been swift with the chop: Ethers, Pennant, KJ, Jerome, Wilson etc, I don't think this extension is driven by sentimentality. It's all a matter of balance, but to replace the old guard now would knock N'Goy, Verlinden even further back down the pecking order. I thought the summer purchases for the areas needed was spot on. Prior to last winter window when we bought Imbula there was a review of our team by Stan Collymore who identified that all we were missing was a player more efficient in transitioning defence to attack. Imbula gave us an initial lift, looked astute. In short I trust Hughes has correctly identified what we need, there's always risks involved, I hope there's a satisfactory outcome to Bony, nice if he found his mojo in Africa and came back storming. I'm not seeing the Crouch extension in isolation. Better perspective at the end of the window. Heard a snippet of Durham TS saying 'strong' rumours about Saido to us again today. Didn't give any further details/sources etc. Roughly what time was the Talksport thingy? Might have a listen on that listen again part of the website. On Drivetime 4 - 7, it was in the earlier part 4.30 ish> He didn't go into any details. Just 'strong' struck me. It was a bit out of context.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Jan 9, 2017 20:20:46 GMT
Great news very pleased for peter crouch. He has been a great servant for us. We need to sign another striker as well and we will be ok
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 20:20:49 GMT
Roughly what time was the Talksport thingy? Might have a listen on that listen again part of the website. On Drivetime 4 - 7, it was in the earlier part 4.30 ish> He didn't go into any details. Just 'strong' struck me. It was a bit out of context. Cheers. I was listening to it in the car but had to put some petrol in at that time as they were rifling through some transfer rumours. Must have just missed it! Will listen again.
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Post by mrred on Jan 9, 2017 20:22:18 GMT
Seeing Crouch get to 100 is the only thing I'm arsed about this season now. Happy to have him another year. It's a sorry shame people can't see the amount he contributes to matches.
I get the age thing but christ on a bike. Get a fucking grip lads.Could you please just talk me through the amount he now contributes to matches, as I'm obviously one of the people who doesn't see it these days. Mate, with respect if you're too fucking ignorant to see, I'm not wasting my night by spoon feeding you. Go back and watch the league matches he's been involved over the last few months, sub or otherwise and come back to me. I'm not saying he's the 20 a season striker we're missing but that's all people see in a striker unfortunately.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 9, 2017 20:33:24 GMT
Don't underestimate the worth of Crouchy to the dressing room and in marketing terms. The fucks I could not give! Two?
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 9, 2017 20:39:11 GMT
First good news for a long while. Pleased to know he will be around a while longer. My hero, Terry Conroy is still involved with the club and he's a great asset. However, I'm not sure I want him in the squad any more. Your hero Terry Conroy played professionally until he was 37. He played for Stoke until he was 33.
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Post by alster on Jan 9, 2017 20:40:24 GMT
Could you please just talk me through the amount he now contributes to matches, as I'm obviously one of the people who doesn't see it these days. Mate, with respect if you're too fucking ignorant to see, I'm not wasting my night by spoon feeding you. Go back and watch the league matches he's been involved over the last few months, sub or otherwise and come back to me. I'm not saying he's the 20 a season striker we're missing but that's all people see in a striker unfortunately. Watched them all as they happened, his presence on the pitch is a handicap to the team.
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Post by Sven on Jan 9, 2017 20:47:22 GMT
Pleased he's signed but if he's still starting games come the end of Jan it will be a monumental fuck up by Hughes. Crouchy is reliable but will not be taking us to the preverbial "next level"
Decent strikers who will succeed in the premier are like rocking horse shit though if your not prepared to pay 30m plus then no guarantees or you drop lucky. Once we're up to 30/35 points ngoy needs a run of games to see if he can cut the mustard
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 20:54:45 GMT
Everywhere we go.......
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Post by adri2008 on Jan 9, 2017 21:05:41 GMT
A good bloke and good squad player - offers something different to our other strikers and at least he's willing to put the effort in unlike some of our other so called 'players'
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Post by wembley1972 on Jan 9, 2017 21:05:57 GMT
Crouch is one player that does deserve another year even at his ripe old age.
He never complains always gives us his best and must be a good influence on the youngster at Stoke.
I have given up being concerned about the wages being paid because they are all paid way to much anyway.
Its up to the manager to play the right system if he chooses to play Crouch. If you put him on Hughes has to organise the team to get the ball out wide and put crosses and make sure that we have someone play off Crouch. Instead he allows or instructs both Shaq and Arnie to continually cut inside. Crouch doesn't run channels he wins the ball in the air for others to feed off, he can also hold the ball for others to join in. He is also great in our box as proved time and again, recently clearing off the line.
I'm not saying start him every week, but if he played as the striker we should be setting up to his strengths when he's on there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 21:10:05 GMT
Crouch is one player that does deserve another year even at his ripe old age. He never complains always gives us his best and must be a good influence on the youngster at Stoke. I have given up being concerned about the wages being paid because they are all paid way to much anyway. Its up to the manager to play the right system if he chooses to play Crouch. If you put him on Hughes has to organise the team to get the ball out wide and put crosses and make sure that we have someone play off Crouch. Instead he allows or instructs both Shaq and Arnie to continually cut inside. Crouch doesn't run channels he wins the ball in the air for others to feed off, he can also hold the ball for others to join in. He is also great in our box as proved time and again, recently clearing off the line. I'm not saying start him every week, but if he played as the striker we should be setting up to his strengths when he's on there. Crouch complains plenty.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 9, 2017 21:22:45 GMT
Crouch is one player that does deserve another year even at his ripe old age. He never complains always gives us his best and must be a good influence on the youngster at Stoke. I have given up being concerned about the wages being paid because they are all paid way to much anyway. Its up to the manager to play the right system if he chooses to play Crouch. If you put him on Hughes has to organise the team to get the ball out wide and put crosses and make sure that we have someone play off Crouch. Instead he allows or instructs both Shaq and Arnie to continually cut inside. Crouch doesn't run channels he wins the ball in the air for others to feed off, he can also hold the ball for others to join in. He is also great in our box as proved time and again, recently clearing off the line. I'm not saying start him every week, but if he played as the striker we should be setting up to his strengths when he's on there. Crouch complains plenty. Is his user name Tony Dreamtheater?
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Post by Royal Donut on Jan 9, 2017 21:27:30 GMT
Happy with that, bench player but I'm sure he's had take a pay cut stay in this league. We need a number of first team players though. There's a few in the first team shouldn't be on the bench.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 21:29:21 GMT
Happy with that, bench player but I'm sure he's had take a pay cut stay in this league. We need a number of first team players though. There's a few in the first team shouldn't be on the bench. Telegraph mentioned an improved deal the other day. I'm unsure.
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Post by stokemark on Jan 9, 2017 21:30:46 GMT
No issue with Crouch or Walters but both ?
We need to move on and we are now in a position whereby two squad places are taken up by two players who Have been rightly lauded for their tremendous contribution but probably should be playing at a lower level than they now are and certainly should be come 2018 !
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 9, 2017 21:32:14 GMT
Happy with that, bench player but I'm sure he's had take a pay cut stay in this league. We need a number of first team players though. There's a few in the first team shouldn't be on the bench. Telegraph mentioned an improved deal the other day. I'm unsure. I thought he'd taken a sizeable cut when he signed the previous contract can't see this one being an improved deal at his age.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 9, 2017 21:32:28 GMT
Crouch continually moans about not playing games yet he's barely played in 18 months.
Despite his love of playing and despite not playing very often, he's quickly accepted two new contract offers.
If he loves playing as much as he says he does, he wouldn't keep signing contracts that see him sitting on his arse.
All in all, on behalf of both the club and the player, this is something of a joke.
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