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Post by wuzza on Jan 9, 2017 18:06:10 GMT
First good news for a long while. Pleased to know he will be around a while longer.
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Post by foster on Jan 9, 2017 18:06:18 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2017 18:09:08 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis. From a footballing PoV, it's everything that is bad about Hughes. Slow Old Ineffective
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Post by kustokie on Jan 9, 2017 18:10:00 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis. Player manager when they fire Hughes? Hey, that's not a bad idea, come to think of it!
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Post by kustokie on Jan 9, 2017 18:11:59 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis. From a footballing PoV, it's everything that is bad about Hughes. Slow Old Ineffective I am glad you said that; although I happen to agree. You can take over from me tonight as the major target for abuse because I am going out for a curry!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 9, 2017 18:13:20 GMT
From a footballing PoV, it's everything that is bad about Hughes. Slow Old Ineffective I am glad you said that; although I happen to agree. Â You can take over from me tonight as the major target for abuse because I am going out for a curry! People are whinging about Hughes and how we play and then accepting this. It's laughable.
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Post by milky on Jan 9, 2017 18:15:55 GMT
Not sure what to make of this as Crouch has constantly gone on about wanting to play regular football.
Unless he is being groomed for some sort of role when he packs in...
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jan 9, 2017 18:17:37 GMT
Crouch has been a brilliant signing. A great guy. A model professional and a good influence on everyone.
He's also a great advert for our club. He deserves a contract for that alone.
The fact that he can still do a job for us is a bonus. People have tried to belittle him by talking about his 5 goals this season. Well that's 5 more than the other strikers and he hasn't played every game.
Most people won't realise that Crouch has scored 1 less goal for Stoke than Ricardo Fuller did for us. And at a much higher ratio as he's often been sub and played less games.
Also every league goal has been scored in the Premier League as opposed to Fuller's 25 in the Championship.
I'm not criticusing Fuller just emphasising how disrepected Crouch is yet again.
As others have said, he's no slower than he was 10 years ago and will score more goals than most if you supply him.
Will be a great option for us until the day he leaves or retires.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:17:44 GMT
Has anyone considered that Crouchie might be the perfect mentor for Ngoy? Been there and done it,just think of the experience he could pass on. Don't think of it as in competition. Crouchie.....Gets his coaching badges. Good long term view. Has the attributes and personality. Good asset.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2017 18:19:22 GMT
Good Lord I mean I love the guy but sometimes in life you just need to know when to let go
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 9, 2017 18:21:50 GMT
Ok for me.
Marketing asset and hopefully stays on as a coach of some sort.
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Post by WhyDelilah on Jan 9, 2017 18:23:03 GMT
We're waiting for somebody with a proven goalscoring record in this league. Somebody who has all the attributes to lead the line as a sole front man. Somebody who is strong and powerful and knows where the net is. Somebody like Bony.... Bony is a mystery - but there's not going to be a happy ending on that one and must be 99% certain we've seen the last of him. 27 goals in a season for Swansea and 53 in 53 for Vitesse Arnhem, just turned 28 and yet the prospect of his early departure meets barely a shoulder shrug. So we're left with a 36-year-old, Jonny Walters and a bloke he plays at right-back. I think that does qualify as a crisis in Premier League terms. Yep. Agreed mate. Not forgetting the other 5 million pound centre forward out on loan.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:36:59 GMT
Diouf has done better as a defender, stateside. We need a proper striker, surely everyone can see it now. We have NOT got one on the books. How many times?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jan 9, 2017 18:40:53 GMT
I agree with Bayern on this. The only way it will become somewhat acceptable is if Hughes buys a young, quick striker and some fucker who can cross a ball to Crouch or whoever Hughes sees fit to play. Overall it sends out a strange message, though. I'd rather persevere with Joselu.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 9, 2017 18:41:59 GMT
As long as we sign another striker this doesn't bother me in the slightest but if we don't and we're pinning our hopes on Crouch and Walters then Hughes wants fucking He shouldn't be anywhere near a Plan A - but as a Plan B, he's still okay for little cameos as the 3rd or 4th striker in the pool. As it is, he's far, far too close to Plan A - and that's unforgivable. We should be straining every sinew to get a proper striker in over the next 3 weeks. Christ only knows what we're waiting for Bony to come good.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jan 9, 2017 18:44:13 GMT
What is the problem here? Still scoring goals at this level and by extending his contract the club gets some cash if an offer comes in.
As a third/fourth choice striker we could a lot worse - and a great example to the youngsters.
We need a first choice striker - but re-signing Crouch doesn't make the slightest bit of difference on that score.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 9, 2017 18:47:24 GMT
Plan A should have dealt with Wolves. He isn't the answer every time, that's why its a plan B. Congratulations to the lad, model pro, decent human, positive attitude, sense of humour, and still something to offer footballing wise. The worry is he is part of plan A He appears to be plan A, B and C along with SJW.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jan 9, 2017 18:49:02 GMT
Don't mind Crouchy staying longer but we have to sign a fast striker that can score, we're on our knees in that regard, anything less will be a huge failure Surely we should be ripping apart the striking department? We have 2 of Dads Army signed up until 2018 now. It hampers that massively. . I understand your perspective B. I think/hope that the model we're following allows for 'pathways' for Academy players. Playing the old guard close to their 'Top half Prem' Use By date potentially ensures a smoother transition for the yoof. imo. Don't have to be chucked in nor over exposed, in the knowledge that there's 'reliable' back up who don't need integrating etc too. A mixed bag approach to retention is best, Hughes has been swift with the chop: Ethers, Pennant, KJ, Jerome, Wilson etc, I don't think this extension is driven by sentimentality. It's all a matter of balance, but to replace the old guard now would knock N'Goy, Verlinden even further back down the pecking order. I thought the summer purchases for the areas needed was spot on. Prior to last winter window when we bought Imbula there was a review of our team by Stan Collymore who identified that all we were missing was a player more efficient in transitioning defence to attack. Imbula gave us an initial lift, looked astute. In short I trust Hughes has correctly identified what we need, there's always risks involved, I hope there's a satisfactory outcome to Bony, nice if he found his mojo in Africa and came back storming. I'm not seeing the Crouch extension in isolation. Better perspective at the end of the window. Heard a snippet of Durham TS saying 'strong' rumours about Saido to us again today. Didn't give any further details/sources etc.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 9, 2017 18:53:01 GMT
I like Crouch. Indifferent to this. I think he is influential in the dressing room and to the club's image as he has been a great signing. He is still getting goals, but even he needs to realize he has to be last resort and I hope he didn't get guaranteed minutes. The club needs to offload some other players to get newer younger players in for skill who don't have the height to stay up top like old Crouchie has.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2017 18:55:00 GMT
Surely we should be ripping apart the striking department? We have 2 of Dads Army signed up until 2018 now. It hampers that massively. . I understand your perspective B. I think/hope that the model we're following allows for 'pathways' for Academy players. Playing the old guard close to their 'Top half Prem' Use By date potentially ensures a smoother transition for the yoof. imo. Don't have to be chucked in nor over exposed, in the knowledge that there's 'reliable' back up who don't need integrating etc too. A mixed bag approach to retention is best, Hughes has been swift with the chop: Ethers, Pennant, KJ, Jerome, Wilson etc, I don't think this extension is driven by sentimentality. It's all a matter of balance, but to replace the old guard now would knock N'Goy, Verlinden even further back down the pecking order. I thought the summer purchases for the areas needed was spot on. Prior to last winter window when we bought Imbula there was a review of our team by Stan Collymore who identified that all we were missing was a player more efficient in transitioning defence to attack. Imbula gave us an initial lift, looked astute. In short I trust Hughes has correctly identified what we need, there's always risks involved, I hope there's a satisfactory outcome to Bony, nice if he found his mojo in Africa and came back storming. I'm not seeing the Crouch extension in isolation. Better perspective at the end of the window. Heard a snippet of Durham TS saying 'strong' rumours about Saido to us again today. Didn't give any further details/sources etc. Roughly what time was the Talksport thingy? Might have a listen on that listen again part of the website.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 9, 2017 18:55:17 GMT
First good news for a long while. Pleased to know he will be around a while longer. My hero, Terry Conroy is still involved with the club and he's a great asset. However, I'm not sure I want him in the squad any more.
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Post by jonnybravo on Jan 9, 2017 18:55:29 GMT
Good move,I like crouch good squad player can still score goals and change games when used properly.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 9, 2017 18:56:28 GMT
He's part of the home grown quota which we may struggle to fill if he went. Meh!
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 9, 2017 19:00:38 GMT
Has anyone considered that Crouchie might be the perfect mentor for Ngoy? Been there and done it,just think of the experience he could pass on. Don't think of it as in competition. Crouchie.....Gets his coaching badges. Good long term view. Has the attributes and personality. Good asset. Great signing with the right DNA, however he should never be an option as a starter now, hope this is about longer term ambitions re. coaching or similar role at the club. We desperately need better striking options than Crouch, SJW, N Goy or Diouf after 4 seasons we are bereft of other options. We would be better off with Joselu back at the club not sure why Hughes has blown him out
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 9, 2017 19:01:35 GMT
First good news for a long while. Pleased to know he will be around a while longer. My hero, Terry Conroy is still involved with the club and he's a great asset. However, I'm not sure I want him in the squad any more. He'd try harder than Imbula.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 9, 2017 19:07:15 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis. I think it means we are going Crouch and Walters, Diouf and not Bony and possibly not Joselu for extended contracts personally. Very interesting development.
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Post by mrred on Jan 9, 2017 19:09:46 GMT
Seeing Crouch get to 100 is the only thing I'm arsed about this season now. Happy to have him another year. It's a sorry shame people can't see the amount he contributes to matches.
I get the age thing but christ on a bike. Get a fucking grip lads.
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Post by wuzza on Jan 9, 2017 19:10:54 GMT
First good news for a long while. Pleased to know he will be around a while longer. My hero, Terry Conroy is still involved with the club and he's a great asset. However, I'm not sure I want him in the squad any more. Don't think Crouchie is quite at the 'match day host' stage yet!
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 9, 2017 19:18:26 GMT
Probably a better 3rd or 4th choice striker than any others currently on our books... from both a commercial and team morale basis. From a footballing PoV, it's everything that is bad about Hughes. Slow Old Ineffective Hare and tortoise springs to mind 😀
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Post by stokief on Jan 9, 2017 19:28:27 GMT
Well, I'm pleased. Let's face it we need as many enthusiastic battlers pleased to play football for a living as we can get and Crouchie, Adam, Whelan, Walters and Allen all seem to fall in to that category PLUS Crouchie is actually a famous football name around the world which helps our profile. After the debacle against Wolves and some other recent individual performances I'm all for keeping a player who can be a positive example in the dressing room and to the younger lads, who knows what it takes to survive in the Prem. and is pretty unassuming and'humble' compared to some of our other up-their-own backside fancydans! He's worth a new contract just for those reasons in fact!
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