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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 13:10:05 GMT
Maybe it was Girth Crooks Oh no, he made Garth sound like a 70's housewife answering the phone in her best telephone voice. No, an accent like Malcoms, where the vowels are beaten out of you is only afforded with a grammar school education. I lived in Stoke from the age of 2, after my old man left the RAF so I did not have Stoke parents, and my accent isn't broad stoke, but it always made me laugh when my ex Father in Law ( actually a great bloke, I miss him more than I do the ex )put on his posh voice, and would over pronounce his H's and often use them where not needed, for example, when talking Potteries it was Ay up, ow are you, but when addressing the Captain at Newcastle Golf Club, where we were members, it was Good Moring Mr Captain...How Har You...Sounded like Manuel of Faulty Towers practicing his English to Poly... |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 17, 2016 14:40:43 GMT
Shows how 'Premier League' Malcolm's become when he says 'Enfield, Spurs territory' when he could, at a pinch, have said 'Enfield, Barnet territory'  I only said that because my father was a Spurs fan. I could of course have said Enfield Town territory. |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 17, 2016 14:54:13 GMT
There isn't one. That was my initial thought too. I think the law says that clubs have to have all seater stadia, it doesn't make it a criminal offence to stand instead of sitting though. That is a club/local council regulation. I think governance of that is down to the local authority who could refuse to issue a safety certificate for peristent standing (health and safety  ) It may require a tweak in whatever law governs the issue of safety certificates or it may simply be a change in attitude from local council hse's. I assume Malcolm could enlighten us. The legislation was only ever enacted in England and Wales. At the time Parliament said that if Scottish league ever removed their all seater rule, they would extend law to Scotland. They did but Parliament didn't. Very different political climate of course Two important points. There is an unresolved legal argument about whether rail seats break the law anyway because they have a seat which can be in vertical position I.e unused but that is no different to the bucket seats in every ground . The way the law is constructed is that the Minister has to lay regulations before Parliament annually specifying grounds covered because it changes every season. So it would not require a change in primary legislation only for Minister to stop laying regs before Parliament, a much smaller requirement |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 17, 2016 15:00:23 GMT
I think the law says that clubs have to have all seater stadia, it doesn't make it a criminal offence to stand instead of sitting though. That is a club/local council regulation. I think governance of that is down to the local authority who could refuse to issue a safety certificate for peristent standing (health and safety ) It may require a tweak in whatever law governs the issue of safety certificates or it may simply be a change in attitude from local council hse's. I assume Malcolm could enlighten us. The legislation was only ever enacted in England and Wales. At the time Parliament said that if Scottish league ever removed their all seater rule, they would extend law to Scotland. They did but Parliament didn't. Very different political climate of course Two important points. There is an unresolved legal argument about whether rail seats break the law anyway because they have a seat which can be in vertical position I.e unused but that is no different to the bucket seats in every ground . The way the law is constructed is that the Minister has to lay regulations before Parliament annually specifying grounds covered because it changes every season. So it would not require a change in primary legislation only for Minister to stop laying regs before Parliament, a much smaller requirement Thanks Malcolm. So more a change of mindset than a change of legislation? |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 17, 2016 15:19:49 GMT
The legislation was only ever enacted in England and Wales. At the time Parliament said that if Scottish league ever removed their all seater rule, they would extend law to Scotland. They did but Parliament didn't. Very different political climate of course Two important points. There is an unresolved legal argument about whether rail seats break the law anyway because they have a seat which can be in vertical position I.e unused but that is no different to the bucket seats in every ground . The way the law is constructed is that the Minister has to lay regulations before Parliament annually specifying grounds covered because it changes every season. So it would not require a change in primary legislation only for Minister to stop laying regs before Parliament, a much smaller requirement Thanks Malcolm. So more a change of mindset than a change of legislation? Yes I think so |
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Nov 17, 2016 15:54:37 GMT
Thanks Malcolm. So more a change of mindset than a change of legislation? Yes I think so Is it Ms Rudd we need to convince then or is there some committee chaired by Keith Vaz pontificating on it? I only ask so I can write to them |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 17, 2016 17:51:40 GMT
Is it Ms Rudd we need to convince then or is there some committee chaired by Keith Vaz pontificating on it? I only ask so I can write to them I think it probably is the Home Secretary. If not it will be Tracey Crouch Secretary of State for DCMS |
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Post by alster on Nov 17, 2016 17:58:04 GMT
Is it Ms Rudd we need to convince then or is there some committee chaired by Keith Vaz pontificating on it? I only ask so I can write to them Don't write to Vaz you'll end up in all manner weird positions. Just to check its safe mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2017 21:48:34 GMT
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