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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Jul 25, 2016 20:18:00 GMT
Still think Adam wont be going anywhere unless he wants to; LMH still wants him at Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 20:18:10 GMT
I just don't think Hughes trusts him which I find utterly baffling. 3 words. 'West Ham away' Beginning of the end for Mame. Still that's bollocks given he's our best striker by far and probably better than the bloke we want to spend 20+ million on as things stand too. I'd like Berahino but the fee is crazy. |
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 25, 2016 20:18:57 GMT
Jesting aside Lakeland, transfer fees and player contracts are just not comprehensible to many fans and my post was aimed at trying to make some sense of what the confetti money equates to in real world terms. Surely this level of increase of expenditure year on year cannot go on foreever? No it can't. But it was inevitable that with a new deal for the TV rights in place, that clubs would want more for their players and agents would want more wages for their players. Clubs all over the world know they can charge more providing that two or more clubs from a list which includes: the Prem and top clubs from the Spanish, German or Italian leagues, are interested in a player. To that list you can increasingly add clubs in China and to a lesser extent Russia. That's the way things are at present. Things will settle down but I think the first year of the new deal was always going to be like this. The knack is to do what we are slowly trying to do and to make sure that most of your transfer spend goes on players who are young enough to have decent resale value should you ever wish to sell. This was our big weakness in our early years after promotion. Our big weakness after promotion and West Brom's now. BM |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 25, 2016 20:19:48 GMT
Had this transfer taken place 12 months ago, I would not have been overly impressed ,however as Chief Delilah said Allen seems to have improved vastly under Klopp ,he was the best player on the pitch when they beat us in the 1st leg of league cup semi, and has had an excellent Euros. I think he will add a lot of energy to our midfield and can see him pressing the opposition deep in their own half .A midfield of Imbula, Allen and Whelan has potentially a good balance . I agree that midfield does have a good balance but it's a head scratcher on how you fit Bojan into it. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2016 20:19:49 GMT
Not for me, don't want Adam going anywhere. Oh I love Adam mate and have long praised what he gives us but if he was to leave that's a transfer I'd go with Allen will be a great signing for us but it doesn't change the fact Adam is one of the very few game changers we have to bring off the bench if we're not starting him. He knows how to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and get us on the front foot and I don't want to lose that. The only scenario I would accept it is if we are guaranteed that squad space going to a ready made, first team CB. Is that really going to be Keane from Burnley? |
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Post by ysc1 on Jul 25, 2016 20:21:56 GMT
3 words. 'West Ham away' Beginning of the end for Mame. Still that's bollocks given he's our best striker by far and probably better than the bloke we want to spend 20+ million on as things stand too. I'd like Berahino but the fee is crazy. Better than Berahino? Have a day off, diouf makes mama sidibes touch look like something messi like |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 20:22:08 GMT
If we sign a centre back too (which we will imo) then we have no need for Cameron and Wilson surely?
We'd be daft to let Adam go.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 25, 2016 20:22:11 GMT
Croeso i Stoke Joe! ....and all that anti Welsh rhetoric ends with the stroke of a pen.  Not me mate! Many a summer hols in North Wales & still family live there
I enjoyed every minute of Wales at the Euros - no bitterness here
I know he's 32 but id take Ashley Williams for at least a season!
TBH Trent half of Stoke on Trent will have Welsh ancestry from when the North Wales coal fields dried up in the late 19th century and they moved enmass to the North Staffs coalfield for work. No welfare hand outs in those days mate. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 25, 2016 20:22:27 GMT
He's got a tackle, can win back possession.
More importantly he can start off play from the back comfortably on the ball, and he has a forward pass. Im afraid its a part of Whelans game he's lacking.
Great at recycling the ball and keeping possession, good professional.
An exact MH signing. Hopefully Imbula can improve the physical side of his game, and based on his performance at PNE he's on his way there!
2 maybe 3 more in if arnie goes an its a perfect window. Behrahino/Benteke/Bony, Lascelles/Keane, Chadli if Arnie goes.
As we said, if those deals happen it is the window hughes finishes the squad and we enter a 'new era' proper
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 20:23:23 GMT
Still that's bollocks given he's our best striker by far and probably better than the bloke we want to spend 20+ million on as things stand too. I'd like Berahino but the fee is crazy. Better than Berahino? Have a day off, diouf makes mama sidibes touch look like something messi like At the present time he probably is. Berahino will be better clearly. Having both would take us to the next level. |
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Post by ysc1 on Jul 25, 2016 20:23:24 GMT
Also can see adam leaving, with ireland and affelay out injured. Charlie will stay. Now the question is can a midfield work without whelan.
Allen----imbula
------bojan------
Bojan HAS to be in there somewhere, 100%
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Post by werrington on Jul 25, 2016 20:24:42 GMT
Oh I love Adam mate and have long praised what he gives us but if he was to leave that's a transfer I'd go with Allen will be a great signing for us but it doesn't change the fact Adam is one of the very few game changers we have to bring off the bench if we're not starting him. He knows how to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and get us on the front foot and I don't want to lose that. The only scenario I would accept it is if we are guaranteed that squad space going to a ready made, first team CB. Is that really going to be Keane from Burnley? Hughes obviously rates Keane and if rumours are true has tracked him for over a year now ? I'd love Adam to stay but potentially both clubs have a player the other one wants so to me it has some legs |
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Post by ysc1 on Jul 25, 2016 20:25:43 GMT
Better than Berahino? Have a day off, diouf makes mama sidibes touch look like something messi like At the present time he probably is. Berahino will be better clearly. Having both would take us to the next level. I agree having both would be good. Not a fan of diouf but can do a job last 15minutes. He has to be a sub at best if we are to improve we need a proper finisher, berahino is that. Lets pay the extra few million and wrap it up stoke. Just a CB, keeping arnie and reserve GK away from a cracking side |
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Post by trigger on Jul 25, 2016 20:27:22 GMT
Oh well done Scholes I have to keep going to two different threads now, tosser.
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Post by jarhead on Jul 25, 2016 20:28:21 GMT
Awesome stuff Stoke
Come on you fuckin potters
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 25, 2016 20:29:16 GMT
3 words. 'West Ham away' Beginning of the end for Mame. Still that's bollocks given he's our best striker by far and probably better than the bloke we want to spend 20+ million on as things stand too. I'd like Berahino but the fee is crazy. I think berahino is better overall. However not £20m better in my opinion. And I love diouf |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 25, 2016 20:29:53 GMT
At the present time he probably is. Berahino will be better clearly. Having both would take us to the next level. I agree having both would be good. Not a fan of diouf but can do a job last 15minutes. He has to be a sub at best if we are to improve we need a proper finisher, berahino is that. Lets pay the extra few million and wrap it up stoke. Just a CB, keeping arnie and reserve GK away from a cracking side I disagree. Give him a season up front and he'll score 15 league goals imo. Wouldn't be confident saying that about Berahino at this current time. But he is a bloody good player and I really hope we get him! Agree re CB and Arnie and a GK! |
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Post by stokie1997 on Jul 25, 2016 20:31:25 GMT
This just shows that we can get deals done quickly. As soon as WBA sign as a striker we need to complete the Berahino deal as quick as possible before Palace come in for him
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Post by Han Solo on Jul 25, 2016 20:32:01 GMT
Diouf is harder working and busier. Berahino seems a more natural finisher. I'd be interested to see them work in tandem. I could see them complimenting each other. If he signs of course.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2016 20:32:40 GMT
This just shows that we can get deals done quickly. As soon as WBA sign as a striker we need to complete the Berahino deal as quick as possible before Palace come in for him Deadline day then? |
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Post by Bombus on Jul 25, 2016 20:34:59 GMT
Fantastic, mate. Buzzing. Brilliant signing mate. We seem to have signed a player that is just peaking aswell. Really looking forward to seeing him link up with some of our lads Defo. These really are special times, mate - and hopefully with a lot more to come still. |
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Post by ayem on Jul 25, 2016 20:38:48 GMT
Oh I love Adam mate and have long praised what he gives us but if he was to leave that's a transfer I'd go with Allen will be a great signing for us but it doesn't change the fact Adam is one of the very few game changers we have to bring off the bench if we're not starting him. He knows how to grab the game by the scruff of the a neck and get us on the front foot and I don't want to lose that. The only scenario I would accept it is if we are guaranteed that squad space going to a ready made, first team CB. Is that really going to be Keane from Burnley? I have a problem with the idea of Adam being a game changer. He had one assist and one goal this past season. Most games he was subbed on we lost or drew. I agree with you that when he comes on things change visibly, he changes the game. But to say that he is a super sub and a real weapon (which i know you didn't, but is somewhat implied) is false, by what I've seen this past season. Allen may be able to effect games and fit our squad better. |
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Post by harrysburrow on Jul 25, 2016 20:47:06 GMT
Great signing 😎👍😌
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 25, 2016 21:00:04 GMT
From what I understand, he's improved a lot since he followed Rodgers to Liverpool, in a move that was pretty widely derided at the time. He got good reviews last season and certainly had a good Euros this summer. Hopefully he's the young Glenn Whelan that we need.
I'm starting to feel a bit worried about the balance of our midfield, though. If we assume that Hughes envisages a midfield three of Allen, Imbula and Bojan, that's a worryingly powder-puff trio.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 25, 2016 21:00:31 GMT
I imagine that there are a few households in South Wales that currently resemble Dierdre Barlow's welcome home party.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2016 21:03:25 GMT
From what I understand, he's improved a lot since he followed Rodgers to Liverpool, in a move that was pretty widely derided at the time. He got good reviews last season and certainly had a good Euros this summer. Hopefully he's the young Glenn Whelan that we need. I'm starting to feel a bit worried about the balance of our midfield, though. If we assume that Hughes envisages a midfield three of Allen, Imbula and Bojan, that's a worryingly powder-puff trio. Power puff is the right word. We'd get absolutely overrun. Whelan has to play. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 25, 2016 21:06:11 GMT
"I was really excited as soon as I heard of the club's interest and it wasn't a difficult decision to make." - BBC website
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Post by liamo on Jul 25, 2016 21:08:02 GMT
Could we be swapping to a 4-3-3? There's no way of including Allen, Whelan and Imbula in our current system at the same time
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 25, 2016 21:10:20 GMT
From what I understand, he's improved a lot since he followed Rodgers to Liverpool, in a move that was pretty widely derided at the time. He got good reviews last season and certainly had a good Euros this summer. Hopefully he's the young Glenn Whelan that we need. I'm starting to feel a bit worried about the balance of our midfield, though. If we assume that Hughes envisages a midfield three of Allen, Imbula and Bojan, that's a worryingly powder-puff trio. Power puff is the right word. We'd get absolutely overrun. Whelan has to play. I'm trying not to moan too much - we've signed an Egyptian wonderkid and a £13,000,000 midfielder in one day! |
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Post by RichJonesy on Jul 25, 2016 21:10:34 GMT
Yeah except I really can't see Saido Mane signing for us til next season at least he's only just signed for Liverpool. Berahino would fit nicely in this though 😏 Oh dear. |
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