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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2016 19:38:13 GMT
You said 'what can they do' in your first reply. We have a Welsh Legend at the helm for starters. Are you pleased with our recruitment dept. performance so far this season? Yeah, 'what can they do' if he wants to go back to Swansea. As I keep saying, it's possible no amount of selling the club will work. Do you accept that or not? I'm reserving judgement on our recruitment until Sep 1st. There's one or two things I'm a bit worried about. But do we really have to scramble round inventing things to bash them for in every single potential deal? Not all deals are the same and not all of them are going to be a piece of piss to deal with or necessarily be our fault. I've already said it's just part of a bigger picture but another piece of evidence it may turn out to be. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 22, 2016 19:40:39 GMT
Yeah, 'what can they do' if he wants to go back to Swansea. As I keep saying, it's possible no amount of selling the club will work. Do you accept that or not? I'm reserving judgement on our recruitment until Sep 1st. There's one or two things I'm a bit worried about. But do we really have to scramble round inventing things to bash them for in every single potential deal? Not all deals are the same and not all of them are going to be a piece of piss to deal with or necessarily be our fault. I've already said it's just part of a bigger picture but another piece of evidence it may turn out to be. I don't see why? It could be completely unrelated and just our bad luck that he wanted to go somewhere else? |
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Post by ayem on Jul 22, 2016 19:51:57 GMT
If swansea out bid us i say we go to liverpool and offer to take balotelli as well.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 22, 2016 19:53:58 GMT
Allen could just about be seen as the long term Whelan replacement that we want, but I'm seriously concerned by the links to Ki and McCarthy. They're good players, but nothing like what we need. There have not yet been any real, substantiative links to the types of player that were desperately in need of, specifically a physical destroyer for the midfield, a back up left back and three centre backs. There wasn't any substantiative links to joe Allen before Wednesday. Truth is no one knows what's going on. Fair point. It does seem a bit quiet, though. I suppose we'll know by the 31st of August, anyway! |
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Post by Fredrikstad Norway on Jul 22, 2016 20:00:24 GMT
Berahino can fuck off! Allen we need to go all in for. Get this guy!!!!
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Post by no1972 on Jul 22, 2016 20:07:38 GMT
Berahino can fuck off! Allen we need to go all in for. Get this guy!!!! We have had a bid excepted so we don't have to offer more,if Swansea also have a bid excepted then it's the players chocie,fuck all we can do about that,unless we offer stupid wages ,then would you want a player who really didn't want to be here. |
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 22, 2016 20:19:16 GMT
Allen could just about be seen as the long term Whelan replacement that we want, but I'm seriously concerned by the links to Ki and McCarthy. They're good players, but nothing like what we need. There have not yet been any real, substantiative links to the types of player that were desperately in need of, specifically a physical destroyer for the midfield, a back up left back and three centre backs. This |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2016 20:27:10 GMT
I've already said it's just part of a bigger picture but another piece of evidence it may turn out to be. I don't see why? It could be completely unrelated and just our bad luck that he wanted to go somewhere else? I just don't get the defeatism and acceptance that it's out of our hands. They are more than twice as likely to go down as us according to the odds, we can probably beat them on wages (if we want to). We've had our own lessons down the years that being a fan or an 'affinity' with the club means fuck all if a deal elsewhere is right. I think the inertia at Clayton Wood is permeating the fanbase. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 22, 2016 20:31:05 GMT
I don't see why? It could be completely unrelated and just our bad luck that he wanted to go somewhere else? I just don't get the defeatism and acceptance that it's out of our hands. They are more than twice as likely to go down as us according to the odds, we can probably beat them on wages (if we want to). We've had our own lessons down the years that being a fan or an 'affinity' with the club means fuck all if a deal elsewhere is right. I think the inertia at Clayton Wood is permeating the fanbase. It's not defeatism - he may well sign. Surely you can comprehend why there's a strong chance he'd prefer to go there though? And that there might not be a huge amount we can do about that? Of course we'll try and sell the club to them, but if he wants to go home, he wants to go home. |
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Post by badger on Jul 22, 2016 21:41:00 GMT
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 22, 2016 21:46:07 GMT
Been saying it for days, he's 100% going to Swansea, I always thought that before our bid went in and we have just hurried it along a tad
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 22, 2016 21:47:52 GMT
Allen is a smokescreen, Ki is a smokescreen.. I'm telling you now, Leon Britton will be a Stoke City midfielder in the coming weeks.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 22, 2016 21:48:34 GMT
What a bag of wank.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 21:53:14 GMT
If swansea out bid us i say we go to liverpool and offer to take balotelli as well. Jesus.... |
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 22, 2016 22:09:22 GMT
I don't see why? It could be completely unrelated and just our bad luck that he wanted to go somewhere else? I just don't get the defeatism and acceptance that it's out of our hands. They are more than twice as likely to go down as us according to the odds, we can probably beat them on wages (if we want to). We've had our own lessons down the years that being a fan or an 'affinity' with the club means fuck all if a deal elsewhere is right. I think the inertia at Clayton Wood is permeating the fanbase. 1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. |
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 22, 2016 22:15:57 GMT
I just don't get the defeatism and acceptance that it's out of our hands. They are more than twice as likely to go down as us according to the odds, we can probably beat them on wages (if we want to). We've had our own lessons down the years that being a fan or an 'affinity' with the club means fuck all if a deal elsewhere is right. I think the inertia at Clayton Wood is permeating the fanbase. 1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. I agree with you and Momo: We are fucking loaded! We should at least TRY to outbid Palace and Swansea; they might blink first. Berahinho and Allen are as good as we'll get and exactly what we need. It's now or never! |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:16:18 GMT
I just don't get the defeatism and acceptance that it's out of our hands. They are more than twice as likely to go down as us according to the odds, we can probably beat them on wages (if we want to). We've had our own lessons down the years that being a fan or an 'affinity' with the club means fuck all if a deal elsewhere is right. I think the inertia at Clayton Wood is permeating the fanbase. 1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. So I'll ask you the same question. Are you saying it's our fault if a Swansea fan and ex-Swansea star wants to go back to Swansea? You don't think we or any other middling Prem club might be a tough sell in those circumstances? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:16:38 GMT
1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. I agree with you and Momo: We are fucking loaded! We should at least TRY to outbid Palace and Swansea; they might blink first. Berahinho and Allen are as good as we'll get and exactly what we need. It's now or never! Who is saying we shouldn't try? |
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 23, 2016 6:19:03 GMT
If the reports are true that Swansea were prepared to wait until January to sign him then why did we bid for him while he was on holiday? Surely it would of made more sense to wait until he was back when we could of attempted to get the deal done quickly before Swansea even knew about it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 6:19:25 GMT
1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. So I'll ask you the same question. Are you saying it's our fault if a Swansea fan and ex-Swansea star wants to go back to Swansea? You don't think we or any other middling Prem club might be a tough sell in those circumstances? You get the feeling though that we thought he'd be here now. And they had no idea about his burning desire to go back to Swansea or him being on holiday. And with that should come some stick for the transfer boys. We seem very naive. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 6:20:07 GMT
If the reports are true that Swansea were prepared to wait until January to sign him then why did we bid for him while he was on holiday? Surely it would of made more sense to wait until he was back when we could of attempted to get the deal done quickly before Swansea even knew about it. Incompetence? I think that's exactly what we tried to do but cocked it up! |
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 23, 2016 6:21:02 GMT
1 million percent correct. The little old Stoke attitude stinks this place out. We're now accepting that Swansea and Crystal Palace are pushing us down the pecking order without so much of a whimper. I could understand it if it was United or Citeh with their gazillions. At least we won't do a Portsmouth. So I'll ask you the same question. Are you saying it's our fault if a Swansea fan and ex-Swansea star wants to go back to Swansea? You don't think we or any other middling Prem club might be a tough sell in those circumstances? Agreed, but surely we would already know about these sorts of things Rob. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:24:51 GMT
So I'll ask you the same question. Are you saying it's our fault if a Swansea fan and ex-Swansea star wants to go back to Swansea? You don't think we or any other middling Prem club might be a tough sell in those circumstances? Agreed, but surely we would already know about these sorts of things Rob. So what do you suggest Ash? Only trying to sign players that nobody else could possibly want? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 6:26:00 GMT
Agreed, but surely we would already know about these sorts of things Rob. So what do you suggest Ash? Only trying to sign players that nobody else could possibly want? No but when you're clearly trying one thing (push it through quick) and there's obvious obstacles to that then it's pretty fucking stupid no? |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:26:48 GMT
So I'll ask you the same question. Are you saying it's our fault if a Swansea fan and ex-Swansea star wants to go back to Swansea? You don't think we or any other middling Prem club might be a tough sell in those circumstances? You get the feeling though that we thought he'd be here now. And they had no idea about his burning desire to go back to Swansea or him being on holiday. And with that should come some stick for the transfer boys. We seem very naive. He'd been linked to Swansea for literally months, there's no way we didn't know about their interest. Whenever we bid for him Swansea would have become a factor. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:27:07 GMT
If the reports are true that Swansea were prepared to wait until January to sign him then why did we bid for him while he was on holiday? Surely it would of made more sense to wait until he was back when we could of attempted to get the deal done quickly before Swansea even knew about it. Football doesn't work like that. |
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Jul 23, 2016 6:29:04 GMT
Agreed, but surely we would already know about these sorts of things Rob. So what do you suggest Ash? Only trying to sign players that nobody else could possibly want? Not at all but let's be realistic on certain targets like this one, he wants to go back to Swansea, Swansea have just had new investment. Now it could all turn out fine don't ge me wrong, but look at what we're up against instantly. Big contributing factors. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:29:53 GMT
So what do you suggest Ash? Only trying to sign players that nobody else could possibly want? Not at all but let's be realistic on certain targets like this one, he wants to go back to Swansea, Swansea have just had new investment. Now it could all turn out fine don't ge me wrong, but look at what we're up against instantly. Big contributing factors. We don't know how big a factor his desire to go back to Swansea is. It might not be an issue at all. But if it is, it is and we move on. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 23, 2016 6:30:51 GMT
You get the feeling though that we thought he'd be here now. And they had no idea about his burning desire to go back to Swansea or him being on holiday. And with that should come some stick for the transfer boys. We seem very naive. He'd been linked to Swansea for literally months, there's no way we didn't know about their interest. Whenever we bid for him Swansea would have become a factor. And yet we still thought we'd get it done quick. 3 public deals. 3 long drawn sagas. It's becoming a common theme with us and is being noticed out of the Internet too. Which is always a worry! |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jul 23, 2016 6:33:48 GMT
He'd been linked to Swansea for literally months, there's no way we didn't know about their interest. Whenever we bid for him Swansea would have become a factor. And yet we still thought we'd get it done quick. 3 public deals. 3 long drawn sagas. It's becoming a common theme with us and is being noticed out of the Internet too. Which is always a worry! Surely with any deal you hope to get it done quick even if it's not possible or even likely? What do we do, not go for players who might not sign within 48 hours? |
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